GUTHRIE OF CRAIGIEBANK, Rt Hon Baroness OBE (Catherine nee WORRALL) 1941-2022

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Oct 14, 2022, 6:25:16 AM10/14/22
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From the Telegraph of 14 Oct 2022: GUTHRIE Lady Guthrie, Catherine, OBE. Died on 8th October in London surrounded by family. Dearly loved wife of Charles, much loved mother of David and Andrew and grandmother to Archie and Emilia. She will be deeply missed by friends and family around the world. There will be a private Funeral in Westminster Cathedral on Thursday 27th October at 10.30 a.m.

She was d of Lt-Col Claude Percy Michael WORRALL OBE MVO 1915-73 and Cecilia Mary 1919-94 d of Capt Charles Joseph Henry O'Hara MOORE CVO (2nd Count Moore of 1879 Papal cr) 1880-1965 sometime head of that Irish gentry family of Mooresfoot and Lady Dorothie Mary Evelyn FEILDING MM 1889-1935 d of 9th Earl of DENBIGH GCVO 1859-1939 and his 1st w Hon Cecilia Mary CLIFFORD 1860-1919 d of 8th Baron CLIFFORD OF CHUDLEIGH 1819-80 and gd of 11th Baron PETRE 1793-1850. etc etc. She m 1971 the LP Gen. Baron GUTHRIE OF CRAIGIEBANK GCB GCVO OBE b 1938 s of Maj Ronald Dalgleish GUTHRIE 1909-82 scion of that Scots gentry family of Craigie and Nina 1913-87 d of George Ernest LLEWELYN of Bryngarw, Aberkenfig, Glam., and had two sons.

The notice lists two grandchildren Archie [?Morgan b 2008 reg Q4 Swindon] and Emilia

BMD records the marriage of an Andrew J GUTHRIE m 2001 reg Q4 Devon to Samantha Dawn b 1969 reg Q4 Devon d of _ BUTTON and _ CABLE

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Oct 14, 2022, 8:06:27 AM10/14/22
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Claude Percy Michael Worrall was maternal grandson of Sir Pyers Mostyn, 9th Bt.

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Oct 14, 2022, 10:02:08 AM10/14/22
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Was she related to  Michael Mostyn Worrall?

From The Telegraph: WORRALL  Michael Mostyn aged 64. Dearly loved husband to Fi and beloved father to Louis and Sasha and devoted step children Rupert, Giles and Munchie. Died peacefully after a short struggle on November 20th [2017]. 
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Oct 14, 2022, 10:22:20 AM10/14/22
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she was his sister:

Agnes Margaret Mary Mostyn (1888-1973); m.3 Oct 1911 Percy Reginald Worrall (1880-Leamington 29 Nov 1950)
1.Mary Agnes Clementine Worrall (23 Nov 1912-2004)
2.William Gerard Mostyn Worrall (1914-15 Sep 1954)
3.Claude Percy Michael Worrall (2 Oct 1915-1973); m.1940 Cecilia Moore
3.1.Catherine Agnes Worrall (Bitham Hall 10 Sep 1941-8 Oct 2022); m.11 Sep 1971 Gen Sir Charles Ronald Llewellyn Guthrie, Lord Guthrie of Craigiebank (b.17 Nov 1938)
3.2.Susan Mary Worrall; m.David Roger Poyer Lewis
3.3.Charles P A Worrall; m.Jennifer Holloway
3.4.Miranda Mary Worrall; m.Sir Christopher Francis Drewry
3.5.Michael Mostyn Worrall (1953-20 Nov 2017); m.Fi ___
3.6.Peter John Worrall
4.Helen Teresa Worrall, b.1918
5.Anthony Charles Worrall (5 Feb 1921-1988)
6.Pyers Arthur Worrall (1921-k.a.8 Jun 1942)

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Oct 14, 2022, 10:33:32 AM10/14/22
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Thank you.
Helen Teresa Worrall died in 2004.

From the Telegraph: 
WORRALL Helen, beloved sister of Mary, died peacefully on 20 April. Funeral at St Joseph's Catholic Church, Avon Dassett, 23 April, 2 p.m.
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WORRALL Mary, died peacefully on 12th October. Much loved sister of Helen, aunt and great aunt. Funeral at St. Joseph's, Avon Dassett, Warwickshire on Friday, 22nd October at 12 noon.
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Oct 14, 2022, 12:42:40 PM10/14/22
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Thanks! Agreed that your identification of Mary must be correct (I note that both she and Helen had funerals at the same church), but it seems unusual that Mary would be described as "sister of Helen" when Helen died a few months before.

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Nov 11, 2022, 3:05:10 AM11/11/22
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From the Times of 11 Nov 2022:
E X T R A C T
Lady Guthrie obituary
Vivacious wife of the chief of the defence staff whose exacting standards of duty as a military spouse were much admired
When in 1973 Kate Worrall married Major Charles Guthrie of the Welsh Guards and SAS, she knew he had a future in the army. Her father had ascertained as much before consenting to the marriage. She could hardly have known, however, that he would rise to be chief of the defence staff and a field marshal, or consequently what duties would fall to her.
...She had, too, given up a life of some glamour. St Mary’s, Ascot, the premier Catholic girls’ school, was followed by finishing school in France, and then London in the early Sixties — a house off Old Brompton Road and a turquoise Mini, a 21st-birthday present, to get her about for the season (and to Heathrow). A bit of interior decorating and selling make-up for an American franchise filled any spare time, as well as some “sleuthing” for the intelligence services, which according to one source “was probably quite serious”...
...Catherine (Kate) Agnes Worrall was born in 1941 at the family home, Bitham Hall in Warwickshire, to Claude Worrall and Celia (née Moore), the eldest of six children. Her father, a Coldstreamer from an old Catholic family, stayed on in the army after the war and was posted first to Greece and then Libya. Kate’s first school was Italian, in Tripoli. She inherited her father’s good looks as well as her mother’s, but notably her maternal grandmother’s eyes, “twinkling and quite mischievous”...
...In 1970 her younger sister, Sue, married David Lewis of the Welsh Guards, Guthrie’s closest regimental friend, and Lewis naturally asked him to be his best man. Kate, who had yet to meet him, was in the hall at Bitham with her back to the door arranging flowers when someone came in leaving it open. She shouted over her shoulder to shut the f***ing door, then turned to see in dismay a man in uniform whom she took to be the regimental padre come to discuss some detail of the wedding.
The romance began, but Guthrie was posted to Northern Ireland, so it had to continue by phone. Guthrie, notably quietly spoken, must at times have struggled to keep the flame alive. He was surprised on one occasion to be thanked for the beautiful flowers she’d just received. He had not, in fact, sent any flowers, and concluded that there was competition. While there probably was, there remains speculation that the suggestion of flowers was in fact a skilfully cast fly. Whatever the case, not long afterwards, Guthrie flew from Belfast to propose to her in Kew Gardens. He survives her, with their two sons: David, an entrepreneur; and Andrew, who runs a polo team in Switzerland...
Lady Guthrie OBE was born on September 10, 1941. She died of heart failure on October 8, 2022, aged 81
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/lady-guthrie-obituary-8bmjx5mxk

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Nov 11, 2022, 10:16:29 PM11/11/22
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The stepchildren of Michael Mostyn Worrall (Rupert, Giles and Munchie) are the issue of his wife (m. 1990) Fiona Rawlings by her first husband (m. 1977) Richard (Rick) Hayward, son of Sir Jack Hayward, and husband (m. 1991)  to Alexandra Sitwell, daughter of Sir Reresby Sitwell.
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