6th Earl Erne (1937-2015)

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According to Leigh Rayment's website and Wikipedia, the 6th Earl Erne (Henry George Victor John Crichton) died December 23, 2015 at age 78.

He is succeeded by his son, John Henry Michael Ninian, b. 1971.

Brooke

[pyvery]

Earl Erne was one of the peers,who inherited titles during the second world war due to the death of their fathers in action.In this group are the Duke of Kent,The Earls of Suffolk and Chichester Lord O'Neill and some others.

[Richard R]

And just to be clear it's earl OF erne

[Olivier]

His Godfather was King George VI.

[Peter FitzGerald]

From the London Gazette of 18 to 22 August 1789:

"Dublin Castle, August 12, 1789.

His Majesty's Royal Letters being received granting the following Dignities, Letters Patent are preparing to be passed under the Great Seal of this Kingdom accordingly.

...

To John Viscount Erne, and the Heirs Male of his Body, the Dignity of Earl Erne, of Crum-castle, in the County of Fermanagh."

[Netty]

Which means Burke's Peerage would be wrong?

Op vrijdag 25 december 2015 17:38:00 UTC+1 schreef Richard R:

[Richard R]

I stand corrected (as should Debrett & Burke) the cr is Earl Erne OF Crom Castle....

[Michael Rhodes]

He wanted to marry Princess Alexandra of Kent but the Hon Angus Ogilvy beat him to it ......

[Richard R]

Telegraph obit below. They also use the of in the title. I wonder if the family (ie the Earl) used that style as well?

The Earl of Erne
Anglo-Irish peer who renovated Castle Crom in Co Fermanagh to which he welcomed the Queen
The 6th Earl of Erne, who has died aged 78, was for 25 years the Queen’s representative in Co Fermanagh, Northern Ireland, and the owner of Crom Castle, on the shores of Upper Lough Erne....
He was appointed Lord Lieutenant for Co Fermanagh in 1987, succeeding Viola, Dowager Duchess of Westminster. ....
he family had close links with the Royal family. His father, the 5th Earl, had served as a Page of Honour to King George V, and before his death in 1940 was a Lord-in-Waiting to George VI, who became Henry’s godfather. Lord Crichton’s aunt, the Duchess (later Dowager Duchess) of Abercorn, was a long-serving Mistress of the Robes to Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother and Lord Erne would serve as Page of Honour to the Queen at the Coronation in 1953....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/12089668/The-Earl-of-Erne-obituary.html

[marquess]

I once read on the Times Rich List that they owned 15,000 acres, but I have seen no mention of that in the obituary.

[Shinjinee]

I checked this up.  According to various newspapers, the family gave the land with outbuildings to the National Trust in 1987
Sources: http://fermanaghherald.com/2013/01/keeping-the-castle/
"Lord Erne and his wife brought their five children up in the castle but as the financial pressures of running the estate mounted over the years, in 1987 they gave much of their land and historic outbuildings to the National Trust and Crom Estate was opened to the public."

This wife, by the way, is the Dowager Countess and his second wife, and not the mother of his five children Camilla Roberts, descended paternally from the Murray dukes of Atholl and the 1st Baron Dunleath (Mulholland family)

http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/online/content/erne1789.htm [lists only the Dunleath descent]

Shinjinee 

[Shinjinee]

On Thursday, April 14, 2016 at 8:06:47 PM UTC+5:30, Shinjinee wrote:

This wife, by the way, is the Dowager Countess and his second wife, and not the mother of his five children Camilla Roberts, descended paternally from the Murray dukes of Atholl and the 1st Baron Dunleath (Mulholland family)

http://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/online/content/erne1789.htm [lists only the Dunleath descent]

Shinjinee 

I found the death date for Owen Roberts, maternal grandfather of the new Earl Erne.  He died 10 April 1953.  The accident also killed his sister Mrs Edward Remington-Hobbs formerly Dowager Lady Farnham, nee Angela Susan Roberts.
http://www.thepeerage.com/p44262.htm 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Roberts_(aviator)

Owen Roberts left a widow Patricia nee Charles, and two daughters. The elder daughter Camilla married 1958 (div 1980) the 6th Earl Erne, as stated earlier, and had one son after four daughters.

Shinjinee

[Michael Rhodes]

_. The Queen was represented by the Duke of Kent at the memorial service for the late Earl of Erne which was held at St Macartin's Cathedral, Enniskillen, 16 May, 2016. The Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall were represented by the Earl of Caledon; The Duke of York was represented by the Viscount Brookeborough ; the Princess Royal was represented by Leonora, Countess of Lichfield; the Duke & Duchess of Gloucester were represented by Mr William Montgomery; the Duchess of Kent was also represented by the Duke of Kent; Princess Alexandra, the Hon Lady Ogilvy was represented by the Lady Moyra Campbell, &c.

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