Rudder packing gland 456/470

[David J]

Hi everyone

We are new owners of a 2006 passport 470. “Eos”

We are looking for advice on servicing the packing gland on the rudder post. 

THis seems very different from most of the info that deals with 40s. 456s and 470s I have seen have the same rudder post.

Does anyone know if this gland/port is glassed into the boat.

Has anyone replaced theres?

Many thanks for your help. We look forward to being part of the group

 - David

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[David J]

My apologies for not including a PIC

 - David

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[Jeffrey Wheeler]

Welcome to the group David! Be sure to check out the Facebook passport group as well. 

On Jun 29, 2026, at 23:38, David J <jone...@gmail.com> wrote:

My apologies for not including a PIC

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[Kenyon Stewart]

Hi David,

That obviously isn't glassed in and is probably a more common way of doing it these days, though not necessarily better.  I assume that because it uses a traditional packing gland instead of the gaiter style many newer boats use today, it is below the waterline. It looks a bit crusty to me and I would definitely replace that hose and the clamps if you are already hauled out.  You might get a quote from the yard for having one glassed in instead of using that hose setup. I haven't seen a 470 and how the rudder bearings are set up, but the hose can probably be changed out without pulling the rudder if all the stuff above it is removable like on a 47.  You might call Passport Yachts ahead of time to verify the hose size and suggested grade to make sure you have it on hand before you haul, it might be an odd metric size that isn't easy to find.

For reference, here is the stuffing box and middle bearing on a 47

Kenyon

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[Bill Berner]

A chat with Thom Wagner (owner Passport Taxhts) at 

Wagner Steven Yacht Sales,

410 263 0008,  could be useful. 

Bill b

Former steward of Eos

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Rudder packing gland 456/470

David J <jone...@gmail.com>: Jun 29 02:01PM -0600

Hi everyone   We are new owners of a 2006 passport 470. “Eos” We are looking for advice on servicing the packing gland on the rudder post.

THis seems very different from most of the info that ...more

David J <jone...@gmail.com>: Jun 29 02:02PM -0600

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[Jeremy Dinsel]

Kenyon,

Can you please explain to me what those blue lines are connected to the quadrant and what is on the other end outside the photo?

Thank you,

-jeremy

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Hi David,

That obviously isn't glassed in and is probably a more common way of doing it these days, though not necessarily better.  I assume that because it uses a traditional packing gland instead of the gaiter style many newer boats use today, it is below the waterline. It looks a bit crusty to me and I would definitely replace that hose and the clamps if you are already hauled out.  You might get a quote from the yard for having one glassed in instead of using that hose setup. I haven't seen a 470 and how the rudder bearings are set up, but the hose can probably be changed out without pulling the rudder if all the stuff above it is removable like on a 47.  You might call Passport Yachts ahead of time to verify the hose size and suggested grade to make sure you have it on hand before you haul, it might be an odd metric size that isn't easy to find.

For reference, here is the stuffing box and middle bearing on a 47

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Kenyon

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