Whisker pole, assymetrical spinnaker
Francisco Garuti
CAZ
John Baudendistel
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Bill Schmidt
Wind Witch has the original mast setup from Kenyon. The sliding car base for the pole moves vertically on a track at the forward edge of the mast It rises from the mast base upwards to the level of the first spreader. There are turning (cheek) blocks at the mast base and at the top of the track. A control line attaches to the top of the sliding car and to the base of the car, having passed around both cheek blocks. Cam cleats, mounted vertically in opposite directions, are on the mast to cleat the line so it (the sliding car)remains at whatever height you want it to be set. These cam cleats suck and should not be used. Use cam cleats instead. We use an internal halyard intended for an inner forestay sail (which we don't have) as a topping lift for a full sized spinnaker pole. A spinnaker downhaul line runs from the forestay base. We find that this setup, attaching the cruising "spinnaker" tack to the outer end of the pole places the sail in an ideal spot. It sets well and doesn't end up wrapping around the forestay/furled genoa when we are cruising down wind and failing to pay attention to wind shifts (OK, this is a true confession).
Hope this helps.
Billy Manana
Rick Hurt
This is a pretty good link to the setting up and use of a downwind pole.
http://www.forespar.com/media/images/whiskerPoleBrochure_2_2007.pdf
Rick Hurt
SV Perla, P-40
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Rob Raymond
Wind Witch has the original mast setup from Kenyon. The sliding car base for the pole moves vertically on a track at the forward edge of the mast It rises from the mast base upwards to the level of the first spreader. There are turning (cheek) blocks at the mast base and at the top of the track. A control line attaches to the top of the sliding car and to the base of the car, having passed around both cheek blocks. Cam cleats, mounted vertically in opposite directions, are on the mast to cleat the line so it (the sliding car)remains at whatever height you want it to be set. These cam cleats suck and should not be used. Use cam cleats instead. We use an internal halyard intended for an inner forestay sail (which we don't have) as a topping lift for a full sized spinnaker pole. A spinnaker downhaul line runs from the forestay base. We find that this setup, attaching the cruising "spinnaker" tack to the outer end of the pole places the sail in an ideal spot. It sets well and doesn't end up wrapping around the forestay/furled genoa when we are cruising down wind and failing to pay attention to wind shifts (OK, this is a true confession).
Hope this helps.
Billy Manana
On 4/20/2017 1:18 PM, Francisco Garuti wrote:
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I guess different boats came with different setups. I know originally my mast was Kenyon (the boom is, the mast was replaced). Im guessing maybe the whisker pole setup is too. I was wondering if you guys have something to hold the car in place. I believe Im missing some sort of cam-cleats of something (I just have line that goes to both end of the track on the pole holder and re-feeds onto itself, but there is no place to Jam or cleat it).
Would anyone care to share some photos of their whisker pole setup? It would be helpful.
Has anyone added a topping lift/foreguy attachment to this kind of pole as to extend an assymetrical for bettter downwind performance with an AP Asym?
Im trying to figure out what setup to go with, so any information on downwind sail setup is welcome.
Thanks in advance.
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Matthew Davidson
Matthew
Kenyon Stewart
CLAM cleats suck.
B.
On 4/20/2017 5:38 PM, Rob Raymond wrote:
It sounds like we have the same stock whisker setup on Azura Kai as you do Billy. Did you meant to say the clam cleats suck? That's what we have, and I've been thinking about changing them... 'cause they suck.
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Bill Schmidt <bi...@windwitch.com> wrote:
Wind Witch has the original mast setup from Kenyon. The sliding car base for the pole moves vertically on a track at the forward edge of the mast It rises from the mast base upwards to the level of the first spreader. There are turning (cheek) blocks at the mast base and at the top of the track. A control line attaches to the top of the sliding car and to the base of the car, having passed around both cheek blocks. Cam cleats, mounted vertically in opposite directions, are on the mast to cleat the line so it (the sliding car)remains at whatever height you want it to be set. These cam cleats suck and should not be used. Use cam cleats instead. We use an internal halyard intended for an inner forestay sail (which we don't have) as a topping lift for a full sized spinnaker pole. A spinnaker downhaul line runs from the forestay base. We find that this setup, attaching the cruising "spinnaker" tack to the outer end of the pole places the sail in an ideal spot. It sets well and doesn't end up wrapping around the forestay/furled genoa when we are cruising down wind and failing to pay attention to wind shifts (OK, this is a true confession).
Hope this helps.
Billy Manana
On 4/20/2017 1:18 PM, Francisco Garuti wrote:
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I guess different boats came with different setups. I know originally my mast was Kenyon (the boom is, the mast was replaced). Im guessing maybe the whisker pole setup is too. I was wondering if you guys have something to hold the car in place. I believe Im missing some sort of cam-cleats of something (I just have line that goes to both end of the track on the pole holder and re-feeds onto itself, but there is no place to Jam or cleat it).
Would anyone care to share some photos of their whisker pole setup? It would be helpful.
Has anyone added a topping lift/foreguy attachment to this kind of pole as to extend an assymetrical for bettter downwind performance with an AP Asym?
Im trying to figure out what setup to go with, so any information on downwind sail setup is welcome.
Thanks in advance.
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