Re: [Passport] Digest for PassportOwners@googlegroups.com - 12 Messages in 4 Topics

[Sailing Vessel]

Totally agree with Jeff. The gap between the frames --having enough--
is very important. As a newbie boat owner, I attempted to replace my
fix lens cabin top windows with new polycarbonate plastic, but thought
I would 'reduce' the gap... The new lens would cut the sealant every
'summer' (October for Sausalito) and leaks would form. In the end, I
had to replace those lens (as it was cheaper to cut new ones the
correct size) with rightly sized ones after few years; the ones in now
are doing okay after eight or so years, but in the tropics, I have
seen a couple of small crazes start. It is important to get lens with
more virgin plastic or ones that use a lower amount of recycled
plastic. The less in recycled plastic content the longer the plastic
will remain craze free. The ones I have now were not as good of
quality plastic as the ones I had bought from TAP...

On 5/15/12, Passpor...@googlegroups.com
<Passpor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> Today's Topic Summary
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> Group: Passpor...@googlegroups.com
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/topics
>
> - POA Burgees [1 Update]
> http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/t/d2f7315e13330f81
> - Best hot water heater [1 Update]
> http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/t/bdb355060f98f95e
> - Plastic port light [9 Updates]
> http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/t/c654488b65ecdb35
> - Best hot water heater [1 Update]
> http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/t/8f601a22840da94d
>
>
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> Topic: POA Burgees
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/t/d2f7315e13330f81
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>
> ---------- 1 of 1 ----------
> From: "Bill Schmidt" <bi...@windwitch.com>
> Date: May 15 09:57AM -0700
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/68d7abf510015737
>
> OK, I'm trying to reach everyone who has asked for/wants a new burgee. This
> e-mail is primarily intended for the owners in SF Bay, but I want to be sure
> not to miss anyone interested.
> The burgee that we all have had was made by Prestige Flags of San Diego
> in 2004.The company has the design specifics on record from that time. They
> are tapered swallow-tailed ,read right, double sided embroidered with POA
> vertically at the luff in red and with the Passport logo centered on the
> flag in blue with a red shield. They are made of 400 denier nylon (I'm
> giving ALL the details here primarily for those of you who no longer have a
> flag and have a short memory span). These are top of the line flags and are
> beautiful. I can attest that they wear like iron.
> They ain't cheap, people. They ain't cheep! If I order 25 such, they
> will cost $40 each. If I order 10 such, they will cost $55 each. The more I
> order, the lower the price. I will want payment up front after I know who
> and how many are interested. Perhaps we can use the PayPal system that
> Michael has set up, but I have not yet discussed this with him yet.
> OK all of you spend thrifts, who's interested???
> Billy Manana
>
>
>
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> Topic: Best hot water heater
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/t/bdb355060f98f95e
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> From: Dan Brinkman <d.bri...@verizon.net>
> Date: May 15 10:04AM -0500
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/2366460c84e77b53
>
> Al, or anybody else, we have a spare Isotherm / Isotemp 6 gallon HWH that
> I'd like to unload - Model 0221R, unused, still in the box. Anybody
> interested?
>
> Dan Brinkman
>
> Good Move
>
> P-40 #85, Long Beach, CA
>
> On 05/10/12, Alcoop<adc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> John
>
> It was noted by Kris that the hot water heater did not work well off
>
> the engine so I took it apart and like Bill discovered that only one
>
> of the two coils heated. This led to trying to replace the coil it but
>
> this would have required fabricaiton etc so I bought a Seward with the
>
> notion that the aluminum double jacket would heat faster. It does not.
>
> It does heat up fine under 110V. Moreover Seward requires a galvanic
>
> current interrupter for the warrantee to be in effect, Another $200
>
> making it almost as expensive as the iso therm although the galvanic
>
> interrupter is not a bad thing to have anyway. I would love to swap it
>
> out for an Isotherm. As for size if you use it mainly in a marina go
>
> for the larger but it seems to me that at anchor the smaller ie 5-6
>
> gal will heat faster. Let me know if you want to buy my small Seward
>
> (just kidding, I think)
>
> Allen
>
>
>> Dream Keeper
>
>> P42
>
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> Topic: Plastic port light
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/t/c654488b65ecdb35
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>
> ---------- 1 of 9 ----------
> From: Marty McOmber <mmco...@gmail.com>
> Date: May 14 12:42PM -0700
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/15c025738bc06e9a
>
> Hi all,
>
> The new decks look great and we will post pics soon. On to another question:
> what kind of plastic have folks used to replace the main port lights on the
> port and starboard side -- the ones that don't open.
>
> We are rebidding all the ports, but the lense for the no opening ones was
> really crazed.
>
> It is very thick plastic. I'd like to go with something that is strong, has
> good uv protection and is clear rather than smoked.
>
> Lexan? Other materials?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> ---------- 2 of 9 ----------
> From: "Brian Moloney" <bkmo...@gmail.com>
> Date: May 14 01:44PM -0600
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/b4e6e6ae2765dbf8
>
> Clear cast acrylic. Used Dow 795 for caulking.
>
> Brian Moloney
> 1984 P40 Toloa
> Deale, MD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: passpor...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:passpor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marty McOmber
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 1:43 PM
> To: Passport Group
> Subject: [Passport] Plastic port light
>
> Hi all,
>
> The new decks look great and we will post pics soon. On to another question:
> what kind of plastic have folks used to replace the main port lights on the
> port and starboard side -- the ones that don't open.
>
> We are rebidding all the ports, but the lense for the no opening ones was
> really crazed.
>
> It is very thick plastic. I'd like to go with something that is strong, has
> good uv protection and is clear rather than smoked.
>
> Lexan? Other materials?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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> ---------- 3 of 9 ----------
> From: "P. Sherwood" <p...@witanco.com>
> Date: May 14 01:00PM -0700
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/b03c1fba9f3f2e3a
>
> If you mean the long windows in the main cabin, I used smoked gray
> Lexan. Can't remember the thickness but probably 1/4" or maybe even
> 5/16" if Lexan is available in that thickness and it wouldn't be too
> thick for the channel cut to hold the window.
>
> Phil
> s/v Cynosure
>
> On 5/14/2012 12:42, Marty McOmber wrote:
>
>
> ---------- 4 of 9 ----------
> From: "John Warren" <jo...@warren-peace.us>
> Date: May 14 01:46PM -0700
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/3c5a518c2fdb0324
>
> The side windows are 1/2" thick...poly carbonate...I think. I guess Lexan
> is the trade marked name. Also...Lexan on the cabin top. If you have a
> company called Tap Plastics close to you...they are great to work with.
> Bomar has a very good instruction sheet on how to bed the lenses if you
> want. The clear Lexan has a slight tint to it.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: passpor...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:passpor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marty McOmber
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 12:43 PM
> To: Passport Group
> Subject: [Passport] Plastic port light
>
> Hi all,
>
> The new decks look great and we will post pics soon. On to another question:
> what kind of plastic have folks used to replace the main port lights on the
> port and starboard side -- the ones that don't open.
>
> We are rebidding all the ports, but the lense for the no opening ones was
> really crazed.
>
> It is very thick plastic. I'd like to go with something that is strong, has
> good uv protection and is clear rather than smoked.
>
> Lexan? Other materials?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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>
> ---------- 5 of 9 ----------
> From: Jeff and Jane Woodward <jeffn...@hotmail.com>
> Date: May 14 07:28PM -0600
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/b5f564856b86a2e5
>
> John is right about TAP Plastics. That's where I bought the material for
> Adagio. But while shopping I learned that Lexan is a brand name and pretty
> pricey. We used TAP Plastic Acrylic. One side was done in 2004. The other
> was done in 2006. Both sides are still doing great. Take the old lens to
> the shop to match the tint. Also try to match the tint of the other lenses
> in the opening hatches. Otherwise when you are inside the boat looking out,
> you will have a kaleidoscope view of whatever anchorage you drop the hook
> in. While we were in the shop looking at the various tints the lens looked
> really dark. But when installed in the boat it looked just right.
>
> While you have the lens out, make whatever repairs are needed to the bed.
> We had lots of cracks and bad spots in the bed and ended up doing a fairly
> major rebuild of the bed to make it right. Make your template for the new
> lens off the rebuilt bed.
>
> One last tip. The original lens in our boat did not fit the bed for it.
> You want to make sure that you have enough "daylight" between the edge of
> the acrylic and the side of the bed for the bedding. A fat 1/16" or an
> 1/8" all the way around. There is a big difference in the coefficient of
> expansion between the acrylic and the cabin side, so it is really important
> to have a fat layer of bedding to expand and contract. If it is too thin it
> will tear and you will have leaks.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jeff
> Adagio, P-40 #109, 1986
> Presently decommissioning in San Carlos, Mexico
>
>
>
>
> ---------- 6 of 9 ----------
> From: robert c young <rcy...@optonline.net>
> Date: May 14 09:40PM -0400
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/886b266c21367380
>
> Never had the ambition to take out non leaking lights despite crazed
> condition. My gut says half inch sounds a lot more accurate than reports of
> one quarter or 5/16s if you think of accidently falling off a monster wave
> at the wrong time and place.
>
>
>
> Perry did a nice job in the 80s so why not ask him for the proper material?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
> From: passpor...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:passpor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff and Jane Woodward
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 9:28 PM
> To: John Warren; mmco...@gmail.com; Passport List
> Subject: RE: [Passport] Plastic port light
>
>
>
> John is right about TAP Plastics. That's where I bought the material for
> Adagio. But while shopping I learned that Lexan is a brand name and pretty
> pricey. We used TAP Plastic Acrylic. One side was done in 2004. The other
> was done in 2006. Both sides are still doing great. Take the old lens to
> the shop to match the tint. Also try to match the tint of the other lenses
> in the opening hatches. Otherwise when you are inside the boat looking out,
> you will have a kaleidoscope view of whatever anchorage you drop the hook
> in. While we were in the shop looking at the various tints the lens looked
> really dark. But when installed in the boat it looked just right.
>
> While you have the lens out, make whatever repairs are needed to the bed.
> We had lots of cracks and bad spots in the bed and ended up doing a fairly
> major rebuild of the bed to make it right. Make your template for the new
> lens off the rebuilt bed.
>
> One last tip. The original lens in our boat did not fit the bed for it.
> You want to make sure that you have enough "daylight" between the edge of
> the acrylic and the side of the bed for the bedding. A fat 1/16" or an
> 1/8" all the way around. There is a big difference in the coefficient of
> expansion between the acrylic and the cabin side, so it is really important
> to have a fat layer of bedding to expand and contract. If it is too thin it
> will tear and you will have leaks.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jeff
> Adagio, P-40 #109, 1986
> Presently decommissioning in San Carlos, Mexico
>
>
>> Subject: [Passport] Plastic port light
>
>> Hi all,
>
>> The new decks look great and we will post pics soon. On to another
> question:
>> what kind of plastic have folks used to replace the main port lights on
> the
>
>> We are rebidding all the ports, but the lense for the no opening ones was
>> really crazed.
>
>> It is very thick plastic. I'd like to go with something that is strong,
> has
>
>> Sent from my iPad
>
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> ---------- 7 of 9 ----------
> From: Jeff and Jane Woodward <jeffn...@hotmail.com>
> Date: May 14 07:48PM -0600
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/e3d97412b0a23bed
>
> Putting in new lenses made a huge difference in the look and feel of the
> boat's interior. Yes. It was a lot of work. But relatively inexpensive.
> And we did have leaks.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 21:40:52 -0400
> From: rcy...@optonline.net
> Subject: RE: [Passport] Plastic port light
> To: jeffn...@hotmail.com; jo...@warren-peace.us; mmco...@gmail.com;
> passpor...@googlegroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Never had the ambition to take out non leaking lights despite crazed
> condition. My gut says half inch sounds a lot more accurate than reports of
> one quarter or 5/16s if you think of accidently falling off a monster wave
> at the wrong time and place.
>
> Perry did a nice job in the 80s so why not ask him for the proper material?
>
> Regards
> Bob
>
>
>
>
> From: passpor...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:passpor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff and Jane Woodward
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 9:28 PM
> To: John Warren; mmco...@gmail.com; Passport List
> Subject: RE: [Passport] Plastic port light
>
>
> John is right about TAP Plastics. That's where I bought the material for
> Adagio. But while shopping I learned that Lexan is a brand name and pretty
> pricey. We used TAP Plastic Acrylic. One side was done in 2004. The other
> was done in 2006. Both sides are still doing great. Take the old lens to
> the shop to match the tint. Also try to match the tint of the other lenses
> in the opening hatches. Otherwise when you are inside the boat looking out,
> you will have a kaleidoscope view of whatever anchorage you drop the hook
> in. While we were in the shop looking at the various tints the lens looked
> really dark. But when installed in the boat it looked just right.
>
> While you have the lens out, make whatever repairs are needed to the bed.
> We had lots of cracks and bad spots in the bed and ended up doing a fairly
> major rebuild of the bed to make it right. Make your template for the new
> lens off the rebuilt bed.
>
> One last tip. The original lens in our boat did not fit the bed for it.
> You want to make sure that you have enough "daylight" between the edge of
> the acrylic and the side of the bed for the bedding. A fat 1/16" or an
> 1/8" all the way around. There is a big difference in the coefficient of
> expansion between the acrylic and the cabin side, so it is really important
> to have a fat layer of bedding to expand and contract. If it is too thin it
> will tear and you will have leaks.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jeff
> Adagio, P-40 #109, 1986
> Presently decommissioning in San Carlos, Mexico
>
>
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> ---------- 8 of 9 ----------
> From: Michael Moradzadeh <m...@yachtpc.com>
> Date: May 14 06:59PM -0700
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/3dccb43beea6c137
>
> I replaced mine as well. Tap did a great job of matching the old ones
> exactly. I think half inch is right, but take it in.
>
> What I have has gone cloudy after a mere ten years, but can polish up
> with the polish stuff they sell there at tap.
>
> I believe I went with tinted polycarbonate.
>
> Michael
> Cayenne 1984 P40
>
> On 5/14/2012 6:48 PM, Jeff and Jane Woodward wrote:
>
>
> ---------- 9 of 9 ----------
> From: Robert Peahl <rhp...@verizon.net>
> Date: May 15 06:57AM -0400
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/e9cb15470453e12
>
> We used Maritime Plastics in Annapolis. They did a great job, using Lexan
> with tint to match the ports.
>
>
> Bob Peahl
> Anthem P40-70
>
>
>
>
>
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> Topic: Best hot water heater
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> From: Barry Kaplan <mem...@gmail.com>
> Date: May 14 12:01PM -0700
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/bd0d7cc8094056cb
>
> I replaced mine with Isotherm 5 years ago. So far never a problem.
>
> -barry
>
>
>
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