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Suresh Adina

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Mar 26, 2013, 5:13:47 AM3/26/13
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I would like initiate a thread of electoral reforms, which I believe are critical in nature. Some changes would be required in the election process before the next general elections to fend of unsavory elements (people) from contesting and winning.

Could we get this going on this group?

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Chandra Jain

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Mar 26, 2013, 6:40:47 AM3/26/13
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Dear Friends,
 
Thanks Suresh for firing the first shot. I fully endorse your idea. Let us hear from others.
 
Let our discussion lead us to an ACTION PLAN on Electoral Reforms.
Here are my thoughts on how to proceed (my posts to my batchmates a few months back):
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Lets plan our activities on two different fronts:

1. PILOT PROJECTS IN SELECTED CLUSTERS TO SHOWCASE NATION-BUILDING THRU TECHNOLOGY:

Let us identify a geographical cluster where one would like to work, based on socio-economic needs of the people. An expert panel of resource persons would formulate a nation-building project - a local entrepreneur would be located who would own the project as a business entity while the expert panel would be the mentor to help him with funding, technology, management etc. Investment & profit-sharing by individuals in the panel would be an incentive. US based India-specific VC funds such as NEXUS, in news recently, could be roped in - your US connections might come in handy.

These projects would be for-profit, commercial entities but would be ethical & no-corrupt practices businesses as per the needs of the community to provide a positive productive environment - the expert panel to ensure this at selection as well as implementation & running stages.

PIAI has one such program by the Acronym WHEELS (Water, Health, Education, Energy, Lifestyles etc). They have a set of guide lines for setting up such projects. This group may choose to use PIAI platform, use their expert resources or devise its own systems & procedures. For details, pl go to http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/EChKUAZxpHeYfGcqr-zoAHtQgor5n1zOsK64vmmyCazT4uBADUBCPKISO99TqulikI5p9-PnjFX0GSLWzdA7Q3QHG592gV3pOJWixA/Project%20Selection%20Process.pdf.

 

2. BRAIN-STORMING THINK-TANK FOR STRATEGIC POLICY INITIATIVES FOR CURBING CORRUPTION:

We need to think MACRO in order to make a difference. Political Reform is one such MACRO game-changing idea that a number of people have pointed out in this forum.

POLITICS IS THE FOUNTAINHEAD OF ALL DEVELOPMENTAL WORK & POLITICAL CORRUPTION IS THE MOTHER OF ALL CORRUPTION.

Politics in the present context is only about POWER & as we all know, power corrupts. In our society, honest people do not have a chance to win elections - vote banks, muscle & money power, caste factors etc play much more important roles than the integrity of the candidate.

Therefore ELECTORAL REFORM IS THE CORE TO ALL REFORMS.

Engineering training does not equip us with the necessary skill-sets to undertake such an onerous task but there may be a few amongst us who have diversified into public administration & allied fields & would be the best people in the country for the task, with their analytical abilities as well as technical skills. Technology itself could be a great game-changer for electoral reforms. I know of Prof Trilochan Shastri & Prof Jagdish Choker who were able to get the laws changed to include info about the assets, criminal history of the candidates made public. A few good men in each constituency can ensure that the laws & rules are implemented not just on paper but in the field - CCTV & Internet are a great tool.

 

PIAI would again be a great platform for this - i had made the proposal to PIAI to identify a group who qualifies for this job - we need a prestigious platform to establish our credibility - but this proposal was not given much thought. Maybe it is time to revive it.

 

As a first step, let us indicate the area of interest where we would like to devote our time, energy, passion & maybe cash too. Then we can form ourselves into teams & start working on specifics.

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On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Suresh Adina <asur...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would like initiate a thread of electoral reforms, which I believe are critical in nature. Some changes would be required in the election process before the next general elections to fend of unsavory elements (people) from contesting and winning.

Could we get this going on this group?

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Sanjay.Gadhalay

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Mar 26, 2013, 10:32:25 AM3/26/13
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Within electoral reforms we need to also demand state funding of all time elections with proportionate representation  in government  formation.

Essential to stem the rot in our pseudo democracy. 

Regarrds

Sanjay Gadhalay

Achintya Nath Sexena

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Mar 26, 2013, 11:18:40 AM3/26/13
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Sir

               First we need to properly define un-savoury elements. In my view, this would be people who are active in criminal or corrupt activities.

                 Then we need to define which criminal offences deserve stricter filtering e.g. persons accused or convicted of crimes against human body & property like theft, robbery, murder, kidnapping etc.

                 We need to evolve a filtering criteria for people who have been accused of criminal activity at the behest of their political rivals to destroy their political careers.

                 Then, we need to evolve a criteria for those people who have been convicted of criminal offences, served their sentences, and now want to re-enter mainstream politics and serve the society as a penance.

                   We need to compile all this in the form of a document and publicize it through the internet, and the media so that these norms gain social recognition and acceptance.

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Sanjay.Gadhalay

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Mar 26, 2013, 11:36:20 AM3/26/13
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ADR  has a consolidated list of such issues and i am marking this email to Anil and Shivani from ADR to see if they could bring a different perspective as well as factual data  for us to work with .

we ought to also target  :
  • Government funding  of all elections to make a long term impact on corruption and improved governance .
  • Proportionate representation in the Cabinet for all contesting parties based on seats they  win  ..
  • the negative vote 
This should be the complete suite we should target through this initiative 

regards
Sanjay Gadhalay
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Sanjay.Gadhalay

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Apr 8, 2013, 5:42:43 PM4/8/13
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Where are  we on these simple and urgent matters ..as the kick of points to bind the group .
lets get down from trying to do too many high fangled things to smaller things and show big results 

best 

Snajy 

Chandra Jain

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Apr 9, 2013, 2:15:17 AM4/9/13
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Sanjay,
 
Electoral Reforms has been identified as a key factor in National Development in many forums & ADR has done commendable work in this area.
 
I agree with your thinking - please choose the most crucial issue by your reckoning from the ADR consolidated list of such issues with Anil and Shivani from ADR & this could be our FIRST ACTION POINT to work on. This could be small thing by all appearances but have Great Nation-wide Impact like other things done by ADR.
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Sanjay.Gadhalay

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Apr 10, 2013, 4:03:13 AM4/10/13
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i would go for government funding of Elections  first 
and second proportionate representation in government no winner takes all  in politics

Chandra Jain

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Apr 11, 2013, 10:49:54 AM4/11/13
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Sanjay,
 
To start with, it would be a good idea if you prepare a short note on your thoughts on these items. We will circulate your thoughts on this group - Anil & Shivani from ADR & other people interested in this subject would also express their views & we can form a project team. The team would select their leader & the leader can work out some kind of a road map leading up to an ACTION PLAN to implement a specific course of action. More members can join in at this stage.
 
I propose we would follow a similar strategy in all our working. 
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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Sanjay.Gadhalay <sgad...@gmail.com> wrote:
i would go for government funding of Elections  first 
and second proportionate representation in government no winner takes all  in politics
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Sanjay.Gadhalay

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Apr 12, 2013, 8:16:56 PM4/12/13
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Haven't I done that already unless you are expecting a detailed dissertation  on each of the topics.!
My topics  of interest and heir priority  have come out clearly and more n now be built on  input and participation of all other's  in the group.

Best  Sanjay

Chandra Jain

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Apr 13, 2013, 11:42:56 PM4/13/13
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Friends,
 
This is what has been proposed so far by Sanjay:
 
1.Government funding of all elections : to make a long term impact on corruption and improved governance.
 
2.Proportionate representation in the Cabinet : for all contesting parties based on seats they win. 

 
Sanjay, you have suggested good topics of interest but only suggested these topics. Suggesting a good topic is a good start but to make any progress someone must take a lead & start a discussion by dwelling on why he thinks it is important. You need to elaborate on your thoughts: Defining the problem, analysing the problem, reasons for proposing, possible solutions, its impact at a national level etc are some of the points we can discuss & other people can provide their own inputs after you take the initiative.
 
A dissertation or at least a working plan will come out of it after putting together all the inputs.
 
I propose we would follow a similar strategy in all our working in this ACTION GROUP.

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On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:03 AM, R C Vishwakarma <rcvish...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sanjay,

Your Idea is good. I wanted more clarification  (in 2-3 lines for each) of your thought on 3 points. 
This should make things more clear in minds of many people. please do not be angry.

"i would go for government funding of Elections  first {"HOW?"}
and second proportionate representation {"BASED ON WHAT?} in government no winner {"HOW?"} takes all  in politics."
 
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CK

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CK as i will reiterate get into action mode by starting to talk to the various stakeholders to get them on board and ACT ................. Sanjay Gadhalay
 
Sanjay, this forum "PanIIT ACTION INDIA" is an exercise in talking to the various stakeholders to get them on board & ACT.
We need to first DISCUSS WHAT ACTION we need to take & then ACT.
 
You have proposed Electoral Reforms & suggested two specific areas below.
Please put together a group of like-minded people, work out an ACTION PLAN & WE WILL ACT. 
 
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On Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:17:06 AM UTC+5:30, CK wrote:
Friends,
 
This is what has been proposed so far by Sanjay:
 
1.Government funding of all elections : to make a long term impact on corruption and improved governance.
 
2.Proportionate representation in the Cabinet : for all contesting parties based on seats they win. 

 
Sanjay, you have suggested good topics of interest but only suggested these topics. Suggesting a good topic is a good start but to make any progress someone must take a lead & start a discussion by dwelling on why he thinks it is important. You need to elaborate on your thoughts: Defining the problem, analysing the problem, reasons for proposing, possible solutions, its impact at a national level etc are some of the points we can discuss & other people can provide their own inputs after you take the initiative.
 
A dissertation or at least a working plan will come out of it after putting together all the inputs.
 
I propose we would follow a similar strategy in all our working in this ACTION GROUP.
Chandra k Jain
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On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:03 AM, R C Vishwakarma <rcvish...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sanjay,

Your Idea is good. I wanted more clarification  (in 2-3 lines for each) of your thought on 3 points. 
This should make things more clear in minds of many people. please do not be angry.

"i would go for government funding of Elections  first {"HOW?"}
and second proportionate representation {"BASED ON WHAT?} in government no winner {"HOW?"} takes all  in politics."
 
Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2013 4:16 AM

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Friends,

We had identified two parallel tracks to work on in this group. We had earlier discussed Pilot Projects for Track 2. Let us see what can be done on track 1 below :

1.BRAIN-STORMING THINK-TANK FOR STRATEGIC POLICY INITIATIVES :

This is for arm-chair strategists (Pl don’t read anything derogative in this term) to think out workable initiatives in order to make a Macro Difference to the nation. These could be policy matters like Political Reforms, Electoral Reforms, Education Reforms, Administrative Reforms, Curbing Corruption etc – game-changing ideas that can change the face of the nation in one sweep. We need to work on ACTION PLANS rather than pure esoteric discussions.

A. It has been proposed that this group could take up ELECTORAL REFORMS as an Action Plan in this track. We have not made much progress since then.

The issue of "Electoral Reforms" has been referred by the Central Government to the Law Commission of India for consideration and for suggesting comprehensive measures for changes in laws relating to elections. Acknowledging the importance of the subject, the Commission has prepared a Consultation Paper eliciting feedback from various stakeholders.

The election system comprises a complex web of different nuances "Legal, Political, Economic, Social, Religious, Ethical and Moral; and this complexity makes the task of suggesting reforms quite challenging. No single aspect of election process can be looked at in isolation from others. Most, if not all areas of these aspects, are of the nature where law either interacts or need to interact more closely. The focus of the Consultation Paper is, therefore, to identify those areas and aspects where law should play more prominent and engaging role.

The Commission prooses to focus largely on issues such as:
Qualifications/ disqualifications of those seeking election, or disqualification of the persons already elected;
Modes, methods and quantum of funding of elections;
Transparency, accountability and sources of spending by political parties and their respective candidates during elections;
Regulations and ethical conduct of political parties or candidates participating in elections;
Filing of false affidavits - A ground for disqualification;
Electronic and print Media - impact of "paid news";
Quantum of punishment for electoral offences; and
Adjudication of election disputes etc.

The Commission, through the Consultation Paper, has solicited views/ suggestions of political parties, states, civil society, and all other stakeholders, inter-alia, on the aforesaid issues.

The Consultation Paper has been made available on the website of the Law Commission of India �http://lawcommissionofindia.nic.in/ and can be downloaded freely.

 

Those desirous of submitting comments/suggestions may send their written comments/ suggestions to the Secretary, Law Commission of India, Hindustan Times House, 14th Floor, Kasturba Gandhi Marg, New Delhi-110001 by E-mail:
lci...@nic.in or by hand/post latest by 30th June, 2013.*

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Friends,
 
The LAW COMMISSION had asked for suggestions from Public for ELECTORAL REFORMS & had circulated a CONSULTATION PAPER for the process (Pl see mail below) by June 30, 2013.
 
Attached please find the suggestions put forth by PUBLIC INTEREST FOUNDATION for your general information & assimilation. It is a very detailed paper prepared with painstaking precision & incision like such an exercise would demand - so far, on this platform, we have only been talking about the need for ELECTORAL REFORMS in general terms but if we are serious about this business, we have to learn the finer points & tricks of the trade & I believe, this paper would come in very handy to understand the intricacies of the matter.
 
If you want to take up ELECTORAL REFORMS as a Project for this group, please go thru this paper & PICK UP ONE SMALL PART WHERE WE HAVE THE NECESSARY EXPERTISE & SKILLS for value-addition. 
 
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Thanks, Shreekanth for your painstaking efforts.
 
So far we have only been talking in this group about the NEED for electoral Reforms but nobody has really taken the trouble of getting into the nitty-gritty of it all & going thru the provisions clause by clause. This effort by Shreekanth has really been stupendous for an individual & deserves a big applause.
 
I recommend that anyone serious about the subject should study this paper - perhaps some points can be elucidated further & be more specific.
 
There are apprehensions that all such exercises as a reference to the law commission are an attempt by the political parties to simply delay & thwart the reforms to at least beyond 2014 General Elections - nevertheless, it does help in creating public awareness for a better political system.
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On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Shreekanth Prabhu <shreek...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
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Thanks for the mail about electoral reforms
 
I gave a set of responses to Law Commission, as a common man, which are attached.
 
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