When Should Wives Obediently Submit to Their Husbands, and When Shouldn't They?
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When Should Wives Obediently Submit to Their Husbands,
and When Shouldn't They?
Why Do Wives Believe They Can Disobey God's Word?
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GOD'S HIERARCHY
***1 Cor 11:3 I would have you know, however, that of every man, Christ is the
Head, that of a wife her husband is the Head, and that God is Christ’s Head.
GOD'S HIERARCHY IN GOVERNMENT
***Romans 13:1 Every individual should be obedient<5293> to those who rule over him; for no one is a ruler except by God’s permission, and our present rulers have had their rank and power assigned to them by Him.
<Strong's Lexicon: 5293> uJpota>ssw; to subordinate; reflexive to obey: — be under
obedience (obedient), put under, subdue unto, (be, make) subject
(to, unto), be (put) in subjection (to, under), submit self unto
TO THIS POINT SUBMISSION IS THE SAME FOR MEN AND WOMEN. MARRIAGE CHANGES THIS. IF A WOMAN DOESN'T WANT TO BE SUBMISSIVE TO A HUSBAND, SHE SHOULDN'T MARRY.
GOD'S HIERARCHY IN MARRIAGE
***Ephes 5:5:20 Always and for everything your thanks to God the Father should be
presented in the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ; 21 and submit<5293> to one another out of reverence for Christ. 22 Married women, submit<5293> to your own husbands as if to the Lord; 23 because a husband is the Head of his wife as Christ also is the Head of the Church, being indeed the Savior of this His Body. 24 And just as the Church submits<5293> to Christ, so also married women should be entirely submissive<5293> to their husbands. . . .33 Yet I insist that among you also, each man is to love his own wife as much as he loves himself [whether she deserves it or not], and a married woman should see to it that she treats her husband with respect [whether he deserves it or not].
***Colos 3::18 Married women, be submissive<5293> to your husbands, as is fitting in
the Lord. . . . 23 Whatever you are doing, your hearts should be in your work, as a
thing done for the Lord and not for men. 24 For you know that it is from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward. Christ is the Master whose bondservants you are.
***1 Peter 2:21 And it is to this you were called; because Christ also suffered on
your behalf, leaving you an example so that you should follow in
His steps. 22 He never sinned, and no deceitful language was ever heard from
His mouth. 23 When He was reviled, He did not answer with reviling; when He
suffered He uttered no threats, but committed Himself to Him who judges
righteously; . . .
3:1 Married women, IN THE SAME WAY [as Jesus], be submissive<5293> to your
husbands, so that even if some of them disbelieve the Message,
they may, apart from the Message, be won over by the daily life of
their wives, after watching your daily life —2 so full of reverence, and so blameless! . . .
5 For in ancient times also this was the way the holy women who
set their hopes upon God used to adorn themselves, being
submissive<5293> to their husbands. 6 Thus, for instance, Sarah obeyed Abraham, acknowledging his authority over her. And you have become Sarah’s children if
you do what is right and permit nothing whatever to terrify you.
***1 Tim 2:2:11 A wife should quietly learn from others with entire
submissiveness. 12 I do not permit a wife to teach, nor have or use authority over a husband, but she must remain quiet.
***1 Cor 14:34 Married women should be silent in the Churches, for they are not
permitted to speak. They must be content with a subordinate place, as the Law also says; 35 and if they wish to ask questions, they should ask their own husbands at home. For it is disgraceful for a married woman to speak at a Church assembly. 36 Or could it be that the word of God came from you? Or are you the only ones to whom it came?37 If anyone supposes he is God's messenger or has a spiritual gift, he must realize that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command.38 But if he does not pay attention to this, pay no attention to him. [or her]
IN MARRIAGE FINANCES
***2 Cor 8:13 I do not urge you to give in order that others may have relief
while you are unduly pressed, 14 but by equality: your abundance being a
supply at this present time for their lack, that their abundance also may
become a supply for your lack; that there may be equality: 15 Even as it is
written, “HE WHO GATHERED MUCH DID NOT HAVE TOO
MUCH, AND HE WHO GATHERED LITTLE DID NOT HAVE TOO LITTLE.”
***"16 This is how we have come to know love: He laid down His life for us. We should also lay down our lives for our brothers. 17 But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?" 1 John 3
APPLICATION? but by equality: the husband's abundance being a
supply at this present time for the wife's lack, so that the wife's abundance also may
become a supply for the husband's lack; that there may be equality: so that the spouse WHO GATHERED MUCH DID NOT HAVE TOO MUCH, AND the soupse WHO GATHERED LITTLE DID NOT HAVE TOO LITTLE.
I do believe that that the husband should submit to the Scripture correctly and appropriately quoted by the wife; that elders, bishops, pastors, evangelists, deacons and ministers should submit to the Scripture correctly and appropriately quoted by members of the assembly; that parents should submit to the Scripture correctly and appropriately quoted by children; because parents, husbands, elders. bishops, pastors, evangelists, deacons and ministers should always submit appropriately to appropriately applicable Scripture because the correct response to the Word of King Jesus is obedience, even if He has to speak it out of the mouth of a jackass or a burning bush. (John 14:15,21; Hebrews 5:8,9; 1 John 2:1-5).
WHEN SHOULD A WIFE DISOBEY HER HUSBAND?
The wife must obey a couple of God's commands before she obeys her husband's request or instructions:
***21 But examine and test everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good. 1 Thess 5
***4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to determine if they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God. 1 yJohn 4
Clearly that means when a husband asks/tells a wife to do something, she should test, examine, and carefully consider his request to make sure it violates not clear or specific Scripture. If his request or instructions violate clear and specific Scripture, she must disobey her husband in order to obey her King and God, Jesus Christ. If her husband asks/tells her to believe someone or something that indicates that Messiah Jesus has NOT come in a human body, is not God in human form come to offer His human body as the atoning sacrifice to save us from our sins, from our incompatibility with the Almighty Father, then she must disobey her husband and NOT believe that someone or something.
When he asks/tells her to do something the Bible specifically and clearly declares to be sin, condemned, evil or wrong. So if a husband tells a wife to lie, cheat, steal or etc, she should disobey him in order to obey Jesus:
***Ephes 5:6 No one should deceive you with vain words, for on account of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 DON'T BE CO-PARTICIPANTS [IN] OR FELLOW-PARTAKERS [OF THEIR EVIL] with them; 8 for you were once darkness, but now light in Lord; walk as children of light, 9 (for the fruit of the light in all goodness and righteousness and truth,) 10 proving what is agreeable to the Lord; 11 and do not have fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather also REPROVE, ADMONISH, CONVICT, CONVINCE, REBUKE AND CONFRONT THEM<1651>^^, [patiently, gently, humbly and respectfully] telling [others of their ] fault [sin]. [With 2 Tim 2:22-26; Gal 6:1]
^^<Strong's 1651> to confute, admonish: — convict, convince, tell a fault, rebuke, reprove.
When he asks/tells her to do something the Bible does not specifically and clearly declare to be sin, condemned, evil or wrong, but she has very serious doubts about the "rightness" or correctness before Jesus of doing what her husband is asking/telling her to do.. So if a husband tells a wife to wear in public a dress she seriously believes is too revealing, shows too much of her skin, or reveals too much of her female figure, she should disobey him because she believes it is wrong and unacceptable to Jesus. If the husband asks or tells her to do a sexual act, an act involving a sexual part of his or her body, and she has real and serious doubts about it being okay with Jesus, thinks it is or might be sinful, then she should not do it, for the sake of her King, Jesus.
***"22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the person who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But the person who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin. 15:1 But we that are strong [in our faith and its liberty in Christ], *we* ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves [in controversial matters]. 2 Each one of us should please his neighbour with a view to what is good, to edification. 3 For the Christ also did not please himself; " Romans 14
The Amplified Bible give a more complete idea in verse 22:
***"23 But the man who has doubts (misgivings, an uneasy conscience) about eating, and then eats [perhaps because of you], stands condemned [before God], because he is not true to his convictions and he does not act from faith. For whatever does not originate and proceed from faith is sin [whatever is done without a conviction of its approval by God is sinful]."
Making the practical application as follows, here paraphrased:
23 But the person who has doubts (misgivings, an uneasy conscience) about eating, and then eats [perhaps because of you], stands condemned [before God], because he/she is not true to his/her convictions and he/she does not act from faith. For whatever does not originate and proceed from faith is sin [whatever is done without a conviction of its approval by God is sinful].
When he asks/tells her to do some controversial thing, a controversial thing that the Bible is not clear or specific about, that she knows is very offensive to another, something that she personally believes is okay with God to do, but she believes it could cause or tempt someone to do something they believe to be evil and sinful, then she should disobey her husband and not do it.
******1 Cor 10:25 EAT EVERYTHING that is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience' sake, for 26 the earth is the Lord's, and all that is in it. 27 If one of the unbelievers invites you over and you want to go, EAT EVERYTHING THAT IS SET BEFORE YOU, without raising questions of conscience. 28 But if someone says to you, "This is food offered to an idol," do not eat it, out of consideration for the one who told you, and for conscience' sake. 29 I do not mean your own conscience, but the other person's. For why is my freedom judged by another person's conscience? 30 If I partake with thanks, why am I slandered because of something for which I give thanks?
31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do everything for God's glory. 32 Give no offense to the Jews or the Greeks or the church of God, 33 just as I also try to please all people in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved
APPLICATION: Go to any movie or listen to any music you believe is acceptable to Jesus, asking no questions for conscience sake. If an unbeliever invites you to go see such a movie or listen to such music, go to the move or listen to the music with that unbeliever. But if someone says to you, "That movie is evil, bad and wrong!" or "That music is evil, bad and wrong!" then do not go to that movie or listen to that music when in the presence of that person, out of consideration for the one who told you it was evil, bad or wrong. Therefore, whether you go to the movie or listen to the music, do everything for God's glory. "32 Give no offense to the Jews or the Greeks or the church of God, 33 just as I also try to please all people in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved"
--
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For God, the Father in Heaven who is a consuming fire, so unselfishly and compassionately loved humans that He sent His only Son who was miraculously born of Mary to meet the requirements of justice and die in our place to take on Himself the judgment we deserve for our sins, so that if we believe Him and rely on Him to make us right with Father and save us from all that makes us incompatible with Father, He makes us compatible with Father so we can live with Him forever in His Love, liberating Truth, enlightening Light and everlasting Life.
PLEASE PRAY FOR SANTORUM
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and When Shouldn't They?
Why Do Wives Believe They Can Disobey God's Word?
Posted and Edited by Tyler and Tyler Posts and Publications: 01/07/12; 05/24/12; http://biblicalmaturity.yuku.com/forums/66;
http://www.scribd.com/OldServantTyler;
http://www.facebook.com/RonaldTyler4153
GOD'S HIERARCHY
***1 Cor 11:3 I would have you know, however, that of every man, Christ is the
Head, that of a wife her husband is the Head, and that God is Christ’s Head.
GOD'S HIERARCHY IN GOVERNMENT
***Romans 13:1 Every individual should be obedient<5293> to those who rule over him; for no one is a ruler except by God’s permission, and our present rulers have had their rank and power assigned to them by Him.
<Strong's Lexicon: 5293> uJpota>ssw; to subordinate; reflexive to obey: — be under
obedience (obedient), put under, subdue unto, (be, make) subject
(to, unto), be (put) in subjection (to, under), submit self unto
TO THIS POINT SUBMISSION IS THE SAME FOR MEN AND WOMEN. MARRIAGE CHANGES THIS. IF A WOMAN DOESN'T WANT TO BE SUBMISSIVE TO A HUSBAND, SHE SHOULDN'T MARRY.
GOD'S HIERARCHY IN MARRIAGE
***Ephes 5:5:20 Always and for everything your thanks to God the Father should be
presented in the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ; 21 and submit<5293> to one another out of reverence for Christ. 22 Married women, submit<5293> to your own husbands as if to the Lord; 23 because a husband is the Head of his wife as Christ also is the Head of the Church, being indeed the Savior of this His Body. 24 And just as the Church submits<5293> to Christ, so also married women should be entirely submissive<5293> to their husbands. . . .33 Yet I insist that among you also, each man is to love his own wife as much as he loves himself [whether she deserves it or not], and a married woman should see to it that she treats her husband with respect [whether he deserves it or not].
***Colos 3::18 Married women, be submissive<5293> to your husbands, as is fitting in
the Lord. . . . 23 Whatever you are doing, your hearts should be in your work, as a
thing done for the Lord and not for men. 24 For you know that it is from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward. Christ is the Master whose bondservants you are.
***1 Peter 2:21 And it is to this you were called; because Christ also suffered on
your behalf, leaving you an example so that you should follow in
His steps. 22 He never sinned, and no deceitful language was ever heard from
His mouth. 23 When He was reviled, He did not answer with reviling; when He
suffered He uttered no threats, but committed Himself to Him who judges
righteously; . . .
3:1 Married women, IN THE SAME WAY [as Jesus], be submissive<5293> to your
husbands, so that even if some of them disbelieve the Message,
they may, apart from the Message, be won over by the daily life of
their wives, after watching your daily life —2 so full of reverence, and so blameless! . . .
5 For in ancient times also this was the way the holy women who
set their hopes upon God used to adorn themselves, being
submissive<5293> to their husbands. 6 Thus, for instance, Sarah obeyed Abraham, acknowledging his authority over her. And you have become Sarah’s children if
you do what is right and permit nothing whatever to terrify you.
***1 Tim 2:2:11 A wife should quietly learn from others with entire
submissiveness. 12 I do not permit a wife to teach, nor have or use authority over a husband, but she must remain quiet.
***1 Cor 14:34 Married women should be silent in the Churches, for they are not
permitted to speak. They must be content with a subordinate place, as the Law also says; 35 and if they wish to ask questions, they should ask their own husbands at home. For it is disgraceful for a married woman to speak at a Church assembly. 36 Or could it be that the word of God came from you? Or are you the only ones to whom it came?37 If anyone supposes he is God's messenger or has a spiritual gift, he must realize that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command.38 But if he does not pay attention to this, pay no attention to him. [or her]
IN MARRIAGE FINANCES
***2 Cor 8:13 I do not urge you to give in order that others may have relief
while you are unduly pressed, 14 but by equality: your abundance being a
supply at this present time for their lack, that their abundance also may
become a supply for your lack; that there may be equality: 15 Even as it is
written, “HE WHO GATHERED MUCH DID NOT HAVE TOO
MUCH, AND HE WHO GATHERED LITTLE DID NOT HAVE TOO LITTLE.”
***"16 This is how we have come to know love: He laid down His life for us. We should also lay down our lives for our brothers. 17 But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?" 1 John 3
APPLICATION? but by equality: the husband's abundance being a
supply at this present time for the wife's lack, so that the wife's abundance also may
become a supply for the husband's lack; that there may be equality: so that the spouse WHO GATHERED MUCH DID NOT HAVE TOO MUCH, AND the soupse WHO GATHERED LITTLE DID NOT HAVE TOO LITTLE.
I do believe that that the husband should submit to the Scripture correctly and appropriately quoted by the wife; that elders, bishops, pastors, evangelists, deacons and ministers should submit to the Scripture correctly and appropriately quoted by members of the assembly; that parents should submit to the Scripture correctly and appropriately quoted by children; because parents, husbands, elders. bishops, pastors, evangelists, deacons and ministers should always submit appropriately to appropriately applicable Scripture because the correct response to the Word of King Jesus is obedience, even if He has to speak it out of the mouth of a jackass or a burning bush. (John 14:15,21; Hebrews 5:8,9; 1 John 2:1-5).
WHEN SHOULD A WIFE DISOBEY HER HUSBAND?
The wife must obey a couple of God's commands before she obeys her husband's request or instructions:
***21 But examine and test everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good. 1 Thess 5
***4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to determine if they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit who confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God. 1 yJohn 4
Clearly that means when a husband asks/tells a wife to do something, she should test, examine, and carefully consider his request to make sure it violates not clear or specific Scripture. If his request or instructions violate clear and specific Scripture, she must disobey her husband in order to obey her King and God, Jesus Christ. If her husband asks/tells her to believe someone or something that indicates that Messiah Jesus has NOT come in a human body, is not God in human form come to offer His human body as the atoning sacrifice to save us from our sins, from our incompatibility with the Almighty Father, then she must disobey her husband and NOT believe that someone or something.
When he asks/tells her to do something the Bible specifically and clearly declares to be sin, condemned, evil or wrong. So if a husband tells a wife to lie, cheat, steal or etc, she should disobey him in order to obey Jesus:
***Ephes 5:6 No one should deceive you with vain words, for on account of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 DON'T BE CO-PARTICIPANTS [IN] OR FELLOW-PARTAKERS [OF THEIR EVIL] with them; 8 for you were once darkness, but now light in Lord; walk as children of light, 9 (for the fruit of the light in all goodness and righteousness and truth,) 10 proving what is agreeable to the Lord; 11 and do not have fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather also REPROVE, ADMONISH, CONVICT, CONVINCE, REBUKE AND CONFRONT THEM<1651>^^, [patiently, gently, humbly and respectfully] telling [others of their ] fault [sin]. [With 2 Tim 2:22-26; Gal 6:1]
^^<Strong's 1651> to confute, admonish: — convict, convince, tell a fault, rebuke, reprove.
When he asks/tells her to do something the Bible does not specifically and clearly declare to be sin, condemned, evil or wrong, but she has very serious doubts about the "rightness" or correctness before Jesus of doing what her husband is asking/telling her to do.. So if a husband tells a wife to wear in public a dress she seriously believes is too revealing, shows too much of her skin, or reveals too much of her female figure, she should disobey him because she believes it is wrong and unacceptable to Jesus. If the husband asks or tells her to do a sexual act, an act involving a sexual part of his or her body, and she has real and serious doubts about it being okay with Jesus, thinks it is or might be sinful, then she should not do it, for the sake of her King, Jesus.
***"22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the person who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But the person who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin. 15:1 But we that are strong [in our faith and its liberty in Christ], *we* ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves [in controversial matters]. 2 Each one of us should please his neighbour with a view to what is good, to edification. 3 For the Christ also did not please himself; " Romans 14
The Amplified Bible give a more complete idea in verse 22:
***"23 But the man who has doubts (misgivings, an uneasy conscience) about eating, and then eats [perhaps because of you], stands condemned [before God], because he is not true to his convictions and he does not act from faith. For whatever does not originate and proceed from faith is sin [whatever is done without a conviction of its approval by God is sinful]."
Making the practical application as follows, here paraphrased:
23 But the person who has doubts (misgivings, an uneasy conscience) about eating, and then eats [perhaps because of you], stands condemned [before God], because he/she is not true to his/her convictions and he/she does not act from faith. For whatever does not originate and proceed from faith is sin [whatever is done without a conviction of its approval by God is sinful].
When he asks/tells her to do some controversial thing, a controversial thing that the Bible is not clear or specific about, that she knows is very offensive to another, something that she personally believes is okay with God to do, but she believes it could cause or tempt someone to do something they believe to be evil and sinful, then she should disobey her husband and not do it.
******1 Cor 10:25 EAT EVERYTHING that is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience' sake, for 26 the earth is the Lord's, and all that is in it. 27 If one of the unbelievers invites you over and you want to go, EAT EVERYTHING THAT IS SET BEFORE YOU, without raising questions of conscience. 28 But if someone says to you, "This is food offered to an idol," do not eat it, out of consideration for the one who told you, and for conscience' sake. 29 I do not mean your own conscience, but the other person's. For why is my freedom judged by another person's conscience? 30 If I partake with thanks, why am I slandered because of something for which I give thanks?
31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do everything for God's glory. 32 Give no offense to the Jews or the Greeks or the church of God, 33 just as I also try to please all people in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved
APPLICATION: Go to any movie or listen to any music you believe is acceptable to Jesus, asking no questions for conscience sake. If an unbeliever invites you to go see such a movie or listen to such music, go to the move or listen to the music with that unbeliever. But if someone says to you, "That movie is evil, bad and wrong!" or "That music is evil, bad and wrong!" then do not go to that movie or listen to that music when in the presence of that person, out of consideration for the one who told you it was evil, bad or wrong. Therefore, whether you go to the movie or listen to the music, do everything for God's glory. "32 Give no offense to the Jews or the Greeks or the church of God, 33 just as I also try to please all people in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved"
--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I5XgIbipqQ&feature=player_embedded;
For God, the Father in Heaven who is a consuming fire, so unselfishly and compassionately loved humans that He sent His only Son who was miraculously born of Mary to meet the requirements of justice and die in our place to take on Himself the judgment we deserve for our sins, so that if we believe Him and rely on Him to make us right with Father and save us from all that makes us incompatible with Father, He makes us compatible with Father so we can live with Him forever in His Love, liberating Truth, enlightening Light and everlasting Life.
PLEASE PRAY FOR SANTORUM
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