Re: [OrlandoBSD] Virtual LEAPstallfest tomorrow.

[Patrick]

LEAP is an acronym or abbreviation of the Linux Enthusiasts And
Professionals,
with the attached -CF for Central Florida...

Steve Litt, if you confuse your GOLUG members, the OrlandoBSD folks, and
subscribers to all the various lists, by holding a "Virtual" LEAP
Installfest, you do a total dis-service to ALL of the mentioned groups.

I would strongly advise that none of us muddy the waters.

I have deep respect for the lists, meets, fests, that ALL of the groups
host, but,
besides never disparaging any, I also do not hold any meets in their
names or use their acronyms.

What do you think?

Also, should an install fest be solely about the geeks hiding in their
own screens, on
web connections, or, should we be the guru's for the noobs and others,
who hunger for knowledge?

What we have right now, at Install Fests, are real installs,
troubleshooting, help for visitors, and
short Q & A sessions... a real learning environment.


On 09/05/2014 02:43 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 13:49:52 -0400
> Fred Moore <fr...@knisecurity.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/5/14, 10:52 AM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> As part of the LEAP installfest, at my home, I'm going to install an
>>> OpenBSD desktop, and I'll be on #golug IRC the whole time so that I
>>> can talk with other interested OrlandoBSD folks, as well as people
>>> from GoLUG and LEAP. I'll "arrive" around 10am.
>>>
>>> I have multiple computers, so if my OpenBSD install goes well, I'll
>>> install NetBSD or the new FreeBSD afterwards.
>>>
>>> I'm doing this from my home because I have known good Internet.
>>>
>>> Could somebody please forward this message to the GoLUG mailing
>>> list? My normal GoLUG.org email address is down for maintenance.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> SteveT
>> I might suggest that you will have a much easier success if you
>> install pc-bsd.. while openBSD is very secure, I understand getting
>> a desktop running is not as simple as FreeBSD.. PC-BSD is 100%
>> FreeBSD under the covers.. and installs a desktop by default.. just
>> a suggestion.. Regards.. Fred
> Thanks Fred,
>
> I tried PC-BSD almost a year ago, and let's just say I'm not a fan.
> Although its package manager was better than FreeBSD, it had some
> problems of its own.
>
> Maybe I'll try it again later, but the one and only BSD I ever found
> understandable and straightforward was OpenBSD.
>
> Note that I haven't yet tried NetBSD at all.
>
> Oh, and David B, the quicker you give that slices presentation at
> GoLUG, the better I'll like it.
>
> SteveT
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[Patrick]

Fact is, there are usually some 17 to 30 folks who attend the
LEAP-CF.ORG installfest, to help others,
to get a free DVD of a new FOSS OS, or, to learn about computing.

Many of them would love to attend your events, and/or any others in the
CF area.

The focus of LEAP-CF.ORG installfests has never been to get onto the
Internet, but, rather, to load up computers, after doing minor repairs
or touch ups to the physical hardware, and to:
1. help folks to get more experience with little to no sweat equity.
2. introduce new FOSS to new/old folks
3. distribute "free" software, hardware, goodies.
4. meet and greet everyone, in person, and build a community.

Holding conflicting events does much to split the community, instead of
everyone being available to
attend all the activities, they must choose one, or another...

Like shooting ourselves in the foot...

In the near future, I do not see any rich benefactor stepping up to :
1. install 300+ feet of broad band underground cables (Quotes have run
up to $2,000.00)
2. contracting for broadband internet services (About $200.00 per month)

Some attendees who have Hot Spots, do provide up to 10 connections. no
guarantees they will be there.


Thank you for your comments, but, none help solve anything. We are
seeking real solutions, for the long term. Hoping to see more
involvement by more folks, at more venues. All constructive comments
are welcome, on these forums.

Patrick Berry...



On 09/05/2014 08:36 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
>
> OK, I see your point, allow me to rephrase...
>
> Tomorrow I, Steve Litt, will host a virtual installfest, and will be
> hanging out on #golug, starting around 10am, while I'm doing my install
> (in this case installing an OpenBSD desktop computer system) in my
> house. It's my fervent hope that members of OrlandoBSD, GoLUG and any
> other people interested in BSD or free software, will get on #golug at
> the same time to discuss and ask questions about BSD or any other
> installation.
>
> The three reasons I'm doing this on the same day as the LEAP Installfest
> are:
>
> 1) When LEAP Installfests get reliable, for sure broadband, I'm going
> to physically appear at LEAP Installfests to do my BSDing. I have a
> feeling a lot of people are in the same boat.
>
> 2) I'm hoping to ask/answer questions to/from people at the LEAP
> Installfest.
>
> 3) Some of the OrlandoBSD people might attend the LEAP Installfest
> physically, and I want to maintain contact between them and other
> OrlandoBSD people installing at their homes.
>
> I have no intent to siphon people away from attending the LEAP
> Installfest at the church. My impression is that LEAP's Installfest
> attracts a different group of people than I wrote this email to, and to
> the extent that the preceding clause is wrong, I doubt a regular
> Installfest attendee would forego physical attendance to do their
> installation while connected to #golug. On the contrary, my suspicion
> is that holding the LITTstallfest on the same day will bring more
> mindshare to LEAP Installfests.
>
> And by the way, you're right that in an ideal world, OrlandoBSD and
> GoLUG would appear physically at the LEAP Installfest, and that would
> be a much better learning environment. I went to the LEAP Installfests
> hosted by LEK for years, learned tons, and had a great time socially
> too. The only reason I'll be installing at home is a matter of being
> sure I have Internet connectivity. Perhaps later I can learn how to
> make one of my spare computers into some sort of Ports box, physically
> bring it to a LEAP Installfest together with a big old switch, and let
> everyone install off it. But I have neither the time nor the knowledge
> to do that before tomorrow.
>
> Patrick, let's see how it goes tomorrow, and soon after discuss the
> naming and timing of future LITTstallfests.
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveT

> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/
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>
>

[Steve Litt]