Re: [GoLugTech] Coalescing Platform InstallFest Efforts -- WAS: Virtual LITTstallfest tomorrow.
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Patrick
Sep 7, 2014, 2:17:43 PM9/7/14
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Thank you Bryan, for the sane approach to the fact that all the groups
need to work together for advocacy, because, united we stand, but,
divided, we fall.
The public will not attend any venue that is in contention with any
others...
You know, WPCC hosts the LEAP Install Fest, owns and controls the
Fellowship Hall.
We are there by invitation, and must share the space with any other
scheduled group.
We are rarely informed of other events and uses, though our contact
information is known.
Yes, I have spoken to Board Members of the church. They know my email
and phone number.
The pastor has contacted us.
WPCC sponsors various other valuable meetings, and they sponsor the ROTC
group, which studies network vulnerabilities.
At several Saturday LEAP Install Fests, they brought in a wifi HotSpot
and perform the DOD "Patriot Operation" where the students performed
assaults on government authorized 'testing servers'.
Each time they met, I and some of our LEAP folks approached and
explained to them, while they assembled or were on break, the REAL
number of servers running Linux, and, the BSDs, vs. the
horrid "guaranteed failure dynamics, at YOUR GREAT expense" that
Microsoft presents.
Some came to our end of the hall, to learn more.
Cadets were offered the FREE Linux Distros on CD/DVD, to try out at home.
On at least two occasions, we were forced to vacate a bit early, for
wedding receptions!
One day, the administrator of the Wilford Woodruff School confiscated
the Fellowship hall for the
entire month, to store rummage sale items, without Church Board
knowledge or permission.
Many of you attended that "Linux Summer on the sidewalk" computing event!
We STILL had hot coffee, and the Internet!
Hey, guys, it IS a CHURCH! And, they also do not even have any Internet
access for the Pastor.
BUT, in the face of adversity, lacking Internet, we have been focused on
genuine LEARNING,
instead of surfing YouTube, as many folks would do, who no longer
support FOSS in this venue.
That decision is noted to us, by some of our visitors, and our comment
is that there is room
for all groups to advocate FOSS, and all are welcome, at the Install Fest!
BUT, some folks seem too self-absorbed, to contribute a few hours each
month, to this effort of
advocating the FOSS movement.
In fact, we NEED your expertise, knowledge, stories, and lectures.
Part of the goodness of the Install Fest, is that nobody 'owns' it, nor
dictates to others.
Also, some of us bring HotSpots to share, just for looking up the
esoteric details, to do a fix,
answer a question...
YES, we discuss and demo the BSDs, as we have since I began attending
ELUG (which morphed
into LEAP) meetings during it's formation, way back in 1997/1998 at the
'locked-in' Lockheed
Martin facility. I have run and test the various BSDs along with the
GNU/Linux distros, continuously.
I've "been here" and "done that" and was quite entertained with the
drama queen performances of
some others who attended. But, I did suffer some health issues,
business ups/downs, and still have been a supporter, since the very
beginning, when we began with ELUG, in 1997.
The distinction here is that there are a few folks, likely less than a
half dozen, who YOU ALL depend upon, to open the doors, make the coffee
(in regular and decafe), provide cups, creamer, and even
cocoa, at OUR EXPENSE, but, thank you to two members for your one-time
donation to the coffee fund.
The LEAP Install Fest is so dependable that we are one of the very few
surviving venues, in Florida!
Certainly the only one who presents 8 or more hours of service to anyone
who walks through the
doors, EVERY MONTH, for at least TEN YEARS!
We have visitors from all over, and Bill drives in from St. Augustine so
regularly, that he is that city's "Chapter" of LEAP!
We do not disparage other's attempts to present themselves as
representatives of
the FOSS movement and any of the OSes extant, I hope that is what all
the groups
are doing, whether it is the BSDs, GNU/Linux Distros, on Sparc, Mac,
Intel, or on the
Arduino, and Raspberry Pi platforms!
All run FOSS!
We ONLY support those efforts, and venues, directing our visitors to
them, and
we do not respond with, nor permit, bad mouthing of their efforts or venues.
As I have stated before, we are out here, in the trenches, with
computers loaded
with the FOSS OSes, to satisfy the needs of users, plus, the Charities
which present them.
Friends of the Library, offers a HP dc7100 CMT tower loaded with Linux
Mint 17, for $60.00,
plus sales tax, (NO Credit/Debit cards, only cash or check) at the
"Friends of the Library"
(non-profit) store, in the Casselberry Library, with proceeds funding
NON-Profit projects,
such as the 6 Seminole County branche's services to our communities, and
the
Children's Summer Reading Program.
We accept donations of used equipment,to sell or donate to other
charities, one being
the Oviedo "HOPE" of Seminole county, and, some other groups who provide
computers,
training, resumes, to un-employed/homeless families and individuals in
Central Florida.
Just this June, in the name of LEAP, three of us built and provided a
dozen complete Linux
HP d530 computer systems to the Haitian Solidarity School.
The "bottom line" is: Where are YOU, fellow FOSS leaders?
ARE YOU the change you desire to see, in the world?
ARE you IN, or OUT? Will you support LEAP-CF.ORG, or just talk the talk?
IF you attend a LEAP Install Fest,
will you will be able to MORPH the meeting atmosphere
towards some vision of prosperity, success?
YOU won't know if you stay out there, talking, gossiping, and worrying!
JOIN LEAP in promoting FOSS!
Patrick Berry,
Secretary,
LEAP-CF.ORG
need to work together for advocacy, because, united we stand, but,
divided, we fall.
The public will not attend any venue that is in contention with any
others...
You know, WPCC hosts the LEAP Install Fest, owns and controls the
Fellowship Hall.
We are there by invitation, and must share the space with any other
scheduled group.
We are rarely informed of other events and uses, though our contact
information is known.
Yes, I have spoken to Board Members of the church. They know my email
and phone number.
The pastor has contacted us.
WPCC sponsors various other valuable meetings, and they sponsor the ROTC
group, which studies network vulnerabilities.
At several Saturday LEAP Install Fests, they brought in a wifi HotSpot
and perform the DOD "Patriot Operation" where the students performed
assaults on government authorized 'testing servers'.
Each time they met, I and some of our LEAP folks approached and
explained to them, while they assembled or were on break, the REAL
number of servers running Linux, and, the BSDs, vs. the
horrid "guaranteed failure dynamics, at YOUR GREAT expense" that
Microsoft presents.
Some came to our end of the hall, to learn more.
Cadets were offered the FREE Linux Distros on CD/DVD, to try out at home.
On at least two occasions, we were forced to vacate a bit early, for
wedding receptions!
One day, the administrator of the Wilford Woodruff School confiscated
the Fellowship hall for the
entire month, to store rummage sale items, without Church Board
knowledge or permission.
Many of you attended that "Linux Summer on the sidewalk" computing event!
We STILL had hot coffee, and the Internet!
Hey, guys, it IS a CHURCH! And, they also do not even have any Internet
access for the Pastor.
BUT, in the face of adversity, lacking Internet, we have been focused on
genuine LEARNING,
instead of surfing YouTube, as many folks would do, who no longer
support FOSS in this venue.
That decision is noted to us, by some of our visitors, and our comment
is that there is room
for all groups to advocate FOSS, and all are welcome, at the Install Fest!
BUT, some folks seem too self-absorbed, to contribute a few hours each
month, to this effort of
advocating the FOSS movement.
In fact, we NEED your expertise, knowledge, stories, and lectures.
Part of the goodness of the Install Fest, is that nobody 'owns' it, nor
dictates to others.
Also, some of us bring HotSpots to share, just for looking up the
esoteric details, to do a fix,
answer a question...
YES, we discuss and demo the BSDs, as we have since I began attending
ELUG (which morphed
into LEAP) meetings during it's formation, way back in 1997/1998 at the
'locked-in' Lockheed
Martin facility. I have run and test the various BSDs along with the
GNU/Linux distros, continuously.
I've "been here" and "done that" and was quite entertained with the
drama queen performances of
some others who attended. But, I did suffer some health issues,
business ups/downs, and still have been a supporter, since the very
beginning, when we began with ELUG, in 1997.
The distinction here is that there are a few folks, likely less than a
half dozen, who YOU ALL depend upon, to open the doors, make the coffee
(in regular and decafe), provide cups, creamer, and even
cocoa, at OUR EXPENSE, but, thank you to two members for your one-time
donation to the coffee fund.
The LEAP Install Fest is so dependable that we are one of the very few
surviving venues, in Florida!
Certainly the only one who presents 8 or more hours of service to anyone
who walks through the
doors, EVERY MONTH, for at least TEN YEARS!
We have visitors from all over, and Bill drives in from St. Augustine so
regularly, that he is that city's "Chapter" of LEAP!
We do not disparage other's attempts to present themselves as
representatives of
the FOSS movement and any of the OSes extant, I hope that is what all
the groups
are doing, whether it is the BSDs, GNU/Linux Distros, on Sparc, Mac,
Intel, or on the
Arduino, and Raspberry Pi platforms!
All run FOSS!
We ONLY support those efforts, and venues, directing our visitors to
them, and
we do not respond with, nor permit, bad mouthing of their efforts or venues.
As I have stated before, we are out here, in the trenches, with
computers loaded
with the FOSS OSes, to satisfy the needs of users, plus, the Charities
which present them.
Friends of the Library, offers a HP dc7100 CMT tower loaded with Linux
Mint 17, for $60.00,
plus sales tax, (NO Credit/Debit cards, only cash or check) at the
"Friends of the Library"
(non-profit) store, in the Casselberry Library, with proceeds funding
NON-Profit projects,
such as the 6 Seminole County branche's services to our communities, and
the
Children's Summer Reading Program.
We accept donations of used equipment,to sell or donate to other
charities, one being
the Oviedo "HOPE" of Seminole county, and, some other groups who provide
computers,
training, resumes, to un-employed/homeless families and individuals in
Central Florida.
Just this June, in the name of LEAP, three of us built and provided a
dozen complete Linux
HP d530 computer systems to the Haitian Solidarity School.
The "bottom line" is: Where are YOU, fellow FOSS leaders?
ARE YOU the change you desire to see, in the world?
ARE you IN, or OUT? Will you support LEAP-CF.ORG, or just talk the talk?
IF you attend a LEAP Install Fest,
will you will be able to MORPH the meeting atmosphere
towards some vision of prosperity, success?
YOU won't know if you stay out there, talking, gossiping, and worrying!
JOIN LEAP in promoting FOSS!
Patrick Berry,
Secretary,
LEAP-CF.ORG
Steve Litt
Sep 7, 2014, 5:30:40 PM9/7/14
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On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 14:17:42 -0400
Patrick <pbe...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> Thank you Bryan, for the sane approach to the fact that all the
> groups need to work together for advocacy, because, united we stand,
> but, divided, we fall.
>
> The public will not attend any venue that is in contention with any
> others...
Patrick,
Patrick <pbe...@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> Thank you Bryan, for the sane approach to the fact that all the
> groups need to work together for advocacy, because, united we stand,
> but, divided, we fall.
>
> The public will not attend any venue that is in contention with any
> others...
I promise that from now on, any time I create or help to create an
Installfest, virtual or not, I won't do it on the first Saturday of the
month, and I won't use the word "LEAP".
It seemed like a good idea at the time, but in retrospect, it wasn't.
It won't happen again.
You have my word that if I attend a future Installfest on the first
Saturday of the month, it will be LEAP's official Installfest, and I
will be there physically. Perhaps with a computer with entire BSD
mirrors on them.
Thanks,
SteveT
Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance
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