[FWD: Anesthesia and Consciousness.]

[con...@howgravityworks.org]

Well done Stuart Hameroff.

I have sent the following commentary to all my other contacts.

Best regards,

Eric Sabo

I have been following this endless consciousness debate in my website "Contact" email address inbox. I have recently come to the conclusion that consciousness is linked to the Aether.

Recently someone brought up the point that Anesthesia renders you unconscious but doesn't affect heart and respiration the same.

 

I always thought it was a simple and straightforward mechanism that Anesthesia employs that interfered with neurotransmitters in the synaptic junctions.

But that is clearly not the case to a point. (People do OD) At the lighter doses, the patient is rendered unconscious but respiratory, heart and other autonomic functions are unaffected.This suggests consciousness is a more delicate aspect of the central nervous system.

A recent paper published by Stuart Hameroff and colleagues Craddock and Tuszinsky from Univ of Arizona points to the consciousness mechanism as being a result of collective oscillations in the Tubulin protein that forms micro-tubules in neurons in the brain. Anesthesia dampens the oscillations causing unconsciousness.

 

These collective consciousness oscillations occur in the Tera-hertz (10¹² cycles per second) frequencies of the electromagnetic spectrum.

Curiously, this Tera-hertz frequency range exists between microwaves and infrared light and is referred to as the Tera-hertz gap.

Even more curious, is not measurable by any instruments we possess.

Perhaps it is reserved by nature for the undisturbed operation of the consciousness mechanism.

 

It has always been my belief that certain people are somehow tuned into each other and perhaps ancestral experience and connection make it more pronounced than with anyone else. This could explain phenomena like "Love at first sight" where two people are instantly "in sync" with Tubulin oscillations tuned into each other.

Also, these Terahertz spectrum oscillations being, in fact, radio waves, and now with this observation, mental telepathy has a viable means of existence and operation.

Some individuals may possess greater ability in receiving and sending these telepathic Terahertz frequencies. Most would be unaware of it and write it off as intuition or a "gut" feeling. Perhaps an unforgettable vivid dream that stands out could also be a manifestation of this phenomena.

Perhaps the gathering at religious services with a large group sharing oscillations accounts for the sense of well being after attending the service. Even the power of faith could be explained in any particular belief system as they all share the same Terahertz bandwidth.

All of the above and other personal experiences of consciousness referred to as "Quanta", could be explained as a result of Terahertz oscillations in the Tubulin Cytoskeletal Microtubules in neurons. And, these oscillations could be capable of interacting with and through the Aether.

With the lack of any other explanation for the existence or mechanism of consciousness, a modified Occam's Razor would seem to apply;

"All things being equal, the only explanation tends to be the correct one."

http://www.newswise.com/articles/consciousness-depends-on-tubulin-vibrations-inside-neurons-anesthesia-study-suggests 

Thank you for your time,

Eric Sabo

 

[Avtar]

Eric

This applies only to the neurological sensory consciousness and not to the cosmic or universal consciousness. Such restrictive biological consciousnesses can’t explain non local mind or consciousness and empirical very low frequency EM waves and dilation of space time during transcendental meditation. 

Best Regards 

Avtar 

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[Hameroff, Stuart R - (hameroff)]

Thanks Eric

Actually 613 terahertz is 489 nanometer wavelength, in the blue  blue/green region of the visible spectrum. That doesn't mean we radiate blue light (though Hindu deities seem to) because the photons stay internal to the system, normally.

But the resonances/consciousness could extend to higher frequency, smaller scale fluctuations in the structure of spacetime geometry, as Roger Penrose and I have been suggesting.

 

Stuart

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[Klee Irwin]

Hi, Stuart. Hope you’re well. If you know of any collaborators who would be interested in furthering Roger and your conjecture with our fractal space time geometry starting at the Planck scale, let me know. We’re certain there’s a waiting convergence of our ideas. To catch up on some of our concepts, at least by reading the abstracts, someone can go to here:

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[Ram Lakhan Pandey Vimal]

It is unclear how the physical information with THz or higher or lower frequencies can cross the hard skull. Stan (Klein) might also argue for this issue.

Cheers!

Kind regards,

Rām

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On Monday, 22 April, 2019, 6:35:59 am GMT-4, Kushal Shah <atma...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Stuart,

It is a well accepted fact that meditation works well when the spine is straight. This means that a bend in the spine prevents flow of consciousness energy, thereby making its wavelength in the range of few centimetres. If we agree with this, it naturally follows that the neural-physical structures related to consciousness vibrate in the GHz range and not THz. 

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[Stuart Hameroff]

Ram Lakhan Pandey Vimal

 

It is unclear how the physical information with THz or higher or lower frequencies can cross the hard skull. Stan (Klein) might also argue for this issue.

Stuart

Its quantum information via entanglement (at higher than terahertz frequencies)

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[John Jay Kineman]

Stuart,

Can you say more about quantum entanglement as a means for connecting with a larger domain of information beyond the hard skull? We had quite a discussion about possible mechanisms for remote viewing, for example, but to my knowledge no consensus on how it could work. The people who do this experience “non-local” connection. But doesn’t the current physics of entanglement preclude information transfer? Is there a way around that? The 20 years of Stargate research by the US Government concluded that “informational Psi”, i.e., remote viewing as an example, is scientifically confirmed, but physical Psi, as in psychokinesis, could not be confirmed.  So, if informational Psi is real, how can it work via entanglement or non-locality concepts? Clearly there would have to be some micro physical Psi for it to be informative.

John

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[Diego Lucio Rapoport]

topological entanglement, i.e. the Klein Bottle and its logophysics

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[Stanley A. KLEIN]

Dear John, It is my understanding that the 20 years of Stargate remote viewing research wasn't done with careful controls. Is the US Government still doing that sort of awesome research? I'm very much looking forward to seeing some psi research done with some fairly simple controls for "sloppiness".  Getting positive results would be fantastic since it provide evidence that quantum mechanics and neuroscience would need to be modified. I would love to see some solid evidence for things like remote viewing. 

Stan

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[Ram Lakhan Pandey Vimal]

Hi John and Stuart,

My understanding is that quantum entanglement does not transfer physical information, only correlations are judged, which experimenters already know. However, Alfredo might like to say more about it. 

Perhaps, we have a 6th sensor in our system (such as in sensors in a heart as Dominique mentioned I guess), which might be responsible for remote viewing. 

Microtubules networks (MTNs) are in the dendrites of all neurons, so they might be involved in all normal and paranormal phenomena including the 6th sensor (if it exists) related neural networks: is this correct Stuart?

Cheers!

Kind regards,

Rām

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[Ram Lakhan Pandey Vimal]

Hi John,

I agree with Stan. Is it possible to invite Dominique again?

She is great in CRV.

Cheers!

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[Stanley Krippner]

Who told you that the 20 years of Stargate RV research was not done with careful controls?

All of the data has been published in three volumes by McFarland.  Did the person who maligned the research read those books?

And you are inferring that psi research invariably is "sloppy."  Have you read any of the recent research by Dean Radin, among others?

It is unfounded criticisms of this nature that baffle serious researchers.

Stanley Krippner

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Here is the response to Stan Klein's claim that Stargate was sloppy.  I did not mention his last name or give out the name of our listserve. Sonali's email is listed below and the books that I mentioned. Anyone who claims the work is "sloppy" has to now put up or shut up.

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Hi Stan:

1. The Star Gate program had significant oversight. All the oversight committees and the names of the members are listed in the Appendix of Vols 1-4. The membership represents the who's-who of American scientists from various disciplines. 

Professed skepticism was a membership requirement into these committees.

2. Re. controls: All laboratory studies had within session controls. 

3. Re QM: You cannot transfer information via quantum entanglement. 

Yes, Ed May and I agree that environmental decoherrene destroys long term and long distance entanglement within the brain. 

I suggest you forward this link to an overview of the program.

Thanks for clarifying these issues.

Best

Sonali 

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Hi Sonali

This is a listserve and so I am not allowed to give specific names. But you can see my response! If you want to write a few lines, I will attach them in my next email.

Stan

 

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[Andrew Gurevich]

Stanley do you or anyone on this list know how to get ahold of Mark Schroll?

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Andy Gurevich

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