WARNING: DOWN-TIME JUNE 3 1:00AM (PST)

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retr...@gmail.com

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Jun 1, 2009, 3:45:49 PM6/1/09
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This is a notice that there is a planned DOWN-TIME for Wednesday June
3 that is to last from 5 mins up to 6 hours at 1:00 am PST (or 4:00 am
EST/EDT). I'm glad to see these are happening mid-week rather than on
week-ends like some previous outages.

I hope you all survived the recent forced upgrade. Its a shame that
some people consider OSG a purely test-grid without much consideration
for the time and fine work that many users of the grid put in.
However, I applaud Mr. Krink's efforts to build a proper community.
Sometimes it feels like we are on a private grid rather than a public
non-profit grid funded by public donations. I was very sad to see
Maria pull off the Grid over the forced upgrade.

Due to a silly misunderstanding the project may lose the main
developer behind the money, the search, the groups, email, Wiredux,
etc. modules.I think those are important modules for the long-term
benefit of the project, so I hope they do what is necessary to keep
him on board.

Maria Korolov (Trombly)

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Jun 1, 2009, 6:00:23 PM6/1/09
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Dan --

It's not so much as I'm moving OFF OSGrid, as much as I am moving TO my own grid.

After all, at some point, everybody is going to be running their own grid -- same as they have their own website.

Scheduling downtimes and upgrades is a major concern -- but this will be a concern no matter what grid I"m on.

This is why companies run their own websites, too -- to be able to schedule upgrades and downtime around their own schedules.

In my case, for example, I need upgrades on weekends. We have office hours and business meetings during the week, at all hours of day and night. I can't afford to go down in the middle of the week.

For other companies, however, peak use times might be on the weekends -- and they don't mind their upgrades happening in the middle of the week.

I also mind frequent upgrades. I would rather that new features were rolled out at a slower pace.  Someone else might need the latest feature, and more frequent updates.

If I was just using OSGrid for social and community purposes -- and I am, and will continue to do so -- then OSGrid is fine.

But for using it for actual business, it's not the appropriate platform. And they keep saying this, too. So it's not a shock.

But OpenSim in general *is* ready for business use, as long as we're running older, more stable versions, and have someone on it watching for downtime.

After all, even websites still go down -- my Hypergrid Business site has actually been down more than my personal standalone lately, simply because the web hosting service had some server problems this week!

-- Maria


Maria Korolov
Editor & publisher, Hypergrid Business (hypergridbusiness.com)
Trombly Ltd.
Work: 413-323-4356 | Cell: 413-559-9055 | ma...@tromblyltd.com
Sent from Ludlow, MA, United States

Derika Juran

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Jun 2, 2009, 4:08:32 AM6/2/09
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Though we are caught up in the birthing process of a nascent grid in alpha stage ,bear in mind that it had been two years  since its inception. People are beginning to expect more stability now. However as of now with each new  upgrade it seems to be like one step up and two steps down. In some areas it even seems to be worse than it was earlier. Wouldnt it be better for the future growth of the grid to bifurcate some areas as purely testing areas leaving aside the larger community areas?

While we appreciate the work of the powers that be , it is now time as with any developing society to give priority to the greater common good rather than individual interests, thereby making the transition from a benevolent dictatorship to a democracy -
for the people, by the people and of the people.

-- Derika
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A hug is a perfect gift - one size fits all, easy to exchange & u can never have too much :)

retr...@gmail.com

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Jun 2, 2009, 5:38:53 PM6/2/09
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UPDATE: The Grid will be offline after midnight tonight starting at
1:00am PST or (4:00am EST/EDT). The updated time out is now 1 to 6
hours.

From what I understand Adam is switching the software back to the OSG
server software. I have been having some issues with avatars and
inventory loading, and I think I have seen others reporting the same;
I hope this will solve those problems. I have also watched the console
and noticed that at times avatars have trouble loading inventory,
clothes, attachments, etc. and this could be causing login & TP
failures.

For those of you that don't know already, the asset server was moved
from new York (osgrid.org:8003) where the other grid servers are, to
the Los Angeles area (assets.osgrid.org:8003) where new software was
installed. This is the same L.A. location that Wright Plaza, LBSA
Plaza and SandBox Plaza are located. The move was made necessary when
the previous hard drive for the Grid had filled up.

OSG has such potential! I can't wait until all the basics are working
on a reliable basis. Hypergrid and Teleports are critical to keeping
the grid interconnected.

retr...@gmail.com

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Jun 4, 2009, 2:17:58 AM6/4/09
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At the last minute the Admins decided NOT to update the Asset Server
Software.
Instead they upgraded the WebSite located at osgrid.org instead.
I had problems with login until I tried entering BOTH my First-Name
AND Last-Name as my account name.
Therefore my login name is RetroDan Dezno.

Many people are reporting Grey Avatars and Missing Inventory:
UGAIM = Users Grey And Inventory Missing.
I have found the best way to clear up a grey avatar is to go into edit
appearance for a minute when I first login.
If that does not clear it up, then do a "Rebake" with Control-Alt-R.
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