What would you find most offensive at a nudist/naturist place?
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Dario Western
Feb 10, 2010, 11:47:59 PM2/10/10
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Hi all,
This should get some healthy discussions happening
on the groups again! I've put them up as polls on a few groups, but would
like to staunch more in-depth replies from those whose members are a bit
quiet. So, without any further ado, here goes (my answers written in red
if negative, blue if positive):
1) Someone staring or otherwise invading your
personal space
It is definitely impolite
behaviour to do so, regardless of where you are. Anyone caught doing this
needs to be taken aside and given a three strike warning. Staring at
people makes them uneasy, and can easily put first-timers off nudism for
life. Invading personal space like taking unsolicited photos, standing too
close to someone when talking to them or mooching off other people's food and
drinks is also a big no-no. Sure, many nudists like to be altruistic, but
don't take advantage of it.
2) Someone wearing provocative /sexy
clothes
Yes and no. If it is an
'adults only' venue like Paradise Lakes or Caliente or some other venue where
they have lingerie dances, I have no problem with this. But in a venue
where there are families with young kids around, it is not
appropriate.
3) A couple being over affectionate, not just
kissing or cuddling
Depends where they are.
Nudism and naturism is about freedom to be yourself and be true to your
feelings. Having a kiss and cuddle with your partner or greeting a nudist
friend is fine. Openly groping and bum patting in full view of others is
not. If you want that sort of thing, then you could go to a swingers
club.
4) Some one being fully dressed
I am more a clothing
optionalist than a nudist, so this doesn't bother me. There are times when
you will need to encounter clothed people at a nudist venue such as cooks and
chefs, tradesmen, labourers whose industries require clothing for health,
hygeine and protection. I don't mind first timers to nudist places being
dressed so they can 'try before they buy'. Though if you are going to a
place which *is* nudist and you insist on being fully dressed the whole time
then I would question your motives for being there in the first instance.
My favourite C/O event is ConFest in which everyone is free to go dressed or
undressed wherever and whenever they want, so it's basically a non-issue for
me.
5) Someone wearing a swimsuit at a naturist beach
pool
If they want to wear one such
as for protection from sunburn, that's their right. Though it is much
nicer swimming nude.
6) Patrons using strong language
Again, depends on where they
are at the time. If it is a Christian orientated nudist place, I would
advise caution. If it is a secular venue with an adult dominated crowd it
doesn't bother me (even though I am a Christian myself!)
7) Adults bullying and/or molesting the
kids
It would certainly make me
mad. Being the victim of excessive bullying when I was kid by both
classmates and some of the teachers, there is nothing that gets my gander up
more than an abused child - not just physically, but sexually, mentally and
emotionally. It causes a lot of personality problems and defects in the
child when he/she grows up. I think that there could be police officers at
every nudist beach and club to enforce behavioural standards towards the
kids.
8) Owners getting drunk and hitting onto other
guys' women
Sadly, I've had this happen
to me once at Sunshine Families when I went on New Year's Day in 1999, and TAN
magazine also published a letter about the owner of one certain nudist
establishment in north QLD who got drunk one night and grabbed some guy's wife
by the tits and asked if they were real or filled with silicone. I don't
know whether this story is true or not as we've only got their word, but having
conversed with him at length on the Net he doesn't seem to be as bad as what
many nudists paint him out to be. As we are both considered pariahs and
mavericks in the nudist movement in Australia, I am starting to feel some
sympathy and kinship towards him.
9) Smoking and using illegal drugs
Depends on where it is.
Being an ex-smoker after having smoked between 1992 - 2003, I hate it now and
wish I had never taken up the habit as I'm getting bad coughs in the winter and
hate the smell of second hand smoke. Pure tobacco is actually far less
harmful than normal cigarettes, this is because of the additives put in the
paper to give it a 'kick' and make the habit addictive. I urge nudists
whether they smoke or not to write to the cigarette companies to ask them to put
a stop to this. Illegal drugs....well, I will admit that I like the odd
joint but that's only once or twice a year and would certainly NOT do it at a
nudist camp!
10) Talking about another nudist behind their
backs
Yes, I hate this heaps!
When I left a couple of Yahoo! nudist groups this year, I learned that some of
the members on there started a "Ding dong the witch is dead!" thread where they
gloated over me leaving and saying "Thank God he's f..ed off, now we can get
things going again!". Gossip is disgusting, hurtful and harmful behaviour
because it causes dissension and a lack of trust with our fellow human
beings.
11) Shabby, run down, broken and dirty
facilities
Yes. It is a big
turn-off, especially for the more younger and upmarket people who like five star
ritzy venues. I've been to a few of them before, they looked fine in the
magazine and got glowing reviews but when I went there they looked plain, dull
and run down and had a very negative vibe about them. Don't be afraid to
start a working bee with members of your club to help spruce up anything that
needs fixing and making it presentable for the general public. First
impressions last.
12) Obesity
I am in two minds about
this. One of the main things about naturism and nudism is not judging
other people on account of their body shape and size. I admit that I do
have a few kilos around my stomach that I want to get rid of and have been
trying diets and exercises which haven't brought me the results I've wanted
(hmmmm Dario, you need a bit of self-discipline buddy!!). Body acceptance
can sometimes become too politically correct where some nudists go to the extent
of looking as unpleasant as possible and then want respect. The majority
of society doesn't think that way, and never will. People DO judge a book
by its cover, and ALWAYS when it attempts to pick them up. Naturism and
nudism was after all originally about diet, exercise, health, calisthenics and
athletics and was responsible for bringing the 'keep fit' culture to the Western
World back in the 1920's. Today it's lost its way a lot which is why I
think mainstream society gives us such a hard time. OTOH, some people are
overweight due to disorders such as malnutrition or an overactive thyroid
gland.
13) Extreme body modification or
scarring
I remember a song ten years
ago by a British band called Groove Armada called "If Everybody Looked The Same
(We'd Get Tired Of Looking At Each Other)". Great song title, and it is
true. I don't mind tattoos and body piercings, they make the body look
more unique and interesting. These days about 80% of women aged between 18
- 35 have navel piercings and/or tattoos. It makes for good conversation
pieces and getting to know someone's background. Personally, I wouldn't
get one because I don't want to be 80 years old with my upper arm decorated
with a heart and arrow through it with the words "I Love My Mum" on
it. But at the end of the day, to each their own.
14) Guys getting erections and not concealing
them
Erections do happen with guys
who are both novices and inveterate nudists alike, it's a part of nature.
It is a different matter to parade around a nudist or clothing optional place
with an erection like a peacock. Go for a dip in the pool or wrap a towel
around your waist if you get one till it subsides.
15) Kids urinating in the pools and
spa
This is disgusting.
What nudist club owners ought to be doing is putting a dye into the water so
that when anybody urinates in it, it goes a different colour so they know who's
done it (though if you are a good swimmer you can get away from it fast!).
Use the bloody toilet if you feel the need to go!
Would like to hear other members' opinions on
this. :)
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Best wishes,
Best wishes,
Dario Western
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