War with Iran

[Frank S]

Rumours abound that Cheney (the real president-he seems to interpret
the constitution to read that he can conduct a sort of second
presidency parallel to Bush) will authorize the bombing of Iran in
early March. He seems to feel that the approval congress gave Bush to
go into Iraq would also cover this war. Let's see, then there is
Syria and then Lbya. Cheney is a real he-man. When these wars are
finished his testicles will be as large as well, either softballs or
peas. You decide. Just don't give him a shotgun.

[kevin...@fusion-meded.com]

Bush has now entered scary territory. Up until now, he has just been
in idiot territory but this is so freaking surreal that I am about to
scream.
I admire persistance and strength in a president. It's admirable to
keep going when the going gets tough. The going has been tough for
sometime now and nothing Bush has done has demonstrated he knows what
he's doing. If his persistance paid off in some progress, well, that's
a different story, but now he's downright pathologic. If the Congress
doesn't put its foot down and stop this now, they are derelict in
their duty. A few weeks ago on Hardball Al Sharpton was on with Pat
Buchanan. Guess what? They both agreed that Bush is nuts and Congress
needs to act now to stop this. When Al and Pat agree on the same
thing, well, that's rare, so it must be right.

If you want to see a cool old movie about this type of stuff, rent 7
Days in May. Burt Lancaster, Kirk Douglas. It's about a military
general who plans a military coup when the president's approval rating
is 29%. Not an exact parallel, but kind of cool. Lancaster is real
good.

[Frank S]

Kevin, you an I are on the same track. Is earth about to be
destroyed? Will Mars fall and obliterate us all? NO, stranger things
have happened. Frank and Kevin are on the same sheet of music. We
both love our country, Nothing else matters . We liberals love our
country even more than those right wing ultra-conservative religious
fanatics. God bless America. It started with liberalism and will
end that way!

Then Frank shoots - nothing but net - a three pointer!

> > peas. You decide. Just don't give him a shotgun.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[kevin...@fusion-meded.com]

What really annoys me is that conservative hawks are resorting to
cheap rhetorical tricks to maintain support of the war by equating
criticism of the war with lack of support for our troops. If that's
the case then we might as well elect a dictator and forget about
democracy and public debate. Do people really believe that a
democratic public should not scrutinzie the rationale for and conduct
of a war? These are the same people who haven't funded adequately
armoured Humvees for our troops. The hypocrisy is nauseating. I
supported the war based on what my governement told me was true and my
confidence that they could execute the war competently. Now I know
most of everything they said was not true and they are incompetent.
Based on past performance, I am very leery of anything Bush says about
Iran. I do not trust that he is telling me the truth, but even if he
did, I do not trust that he could successfully execute an anti-Iranian
effort. If we can't get Iraq right, how do we address Iran? The
problem with Bush is he's lost the support of the reasonable middle. I
actually believe in identifying threats and addressing them. I just
don't think Bush and his neo-con cronies have a clue about execution.
Repeat after me: Ideology makes you stupid. Look at facts, and act on
them. Reality based government is good. Ideology based government is
bad.

> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -