[MT-L] Erx Instructions

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Joe Farr

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Aug 19, 2013, 11:59:30 AM8/19/13
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Good morning –

 

We are magic 5.64.  We have discovered that our E-prescriptions are being transmitted (using Dr. First) with instructions directly out of our dictionary (q8hrs) instead of the patient-friendly “every 8 hours”.  The pharmacy may and hopefully does catch it and change it, but if not, the patient gets the q8hr instructions.  Does anybody else have this issue, and if so what, if anything, are you doing about it?

 

Thanks,

 

Joe Farr, RN

Clinical Application Specialist

King’s Daughters Medical Center/Information Systems

Brookhaven, MS

 

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601.835.9414

 

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Pope, Amy

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Aug 27, 2013, 2:00:06 PM8/27/13
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We are in the planning/testing phases for eRX with Dr First and I have identified this concern and a whole lot more….

 

1.       Mnemonic is sent across the interface for FREQUENCY/MIS DIRECTIONS to the drug store. There is no mapping of this information before leaving MT

2.       Mnemonic is sent across the interface for the ROUTE OF ADMINISTRATION (same as above)     

3.       PRN reasons are not sent at all (in 5x or 6x rings) – apparently this has never been brought to the attention of Meditech prior to my testing

4.       UNIT of MEASURE and MED FORM require a NCPDP code attached in the dictionary to associate with the message in the interface. These are auto-created with each FSV run per your FSV parameters. No way for Meditech to identify the newly created entries to maintain these dictionaries and compliance….

5.       # of DAYS is not permitted with eRX message, only # tablets….. why should physicians change prescribing patterns to accommodate this…. So instead of Amoxicillin 250mg/5ml dose 350mg bid x 10 days now has to be translated by the physician to qty 140ml since they don’t have a QS option either.

6.       Also, no ability to add additional information deemed necessary by the site (we currently print patient weight on all of our prescriptions – to increase patient safety with pediatric dosing, this is not even an option to be sent in the interface message either).

7.       Any patient pharmacy not available in the lookup can be added by any user at any time. This will add it to your patient pharmacy dictionary without any of the necessary populated fields for this to go via eRX. So, end users are adding dictionary entries and not even knowing it!

 

SO, our go-live was supposed to be last week but we have put that on hold pending Meditech’s response to these concerns. Good luck out there to anyone going live with eRX. I urge you to open tasks with Meditech about these issues to get more sites on Proposal 23482!

 

Amy P. Pope, Pharm.D., RPh

Pharmacy Team Coordinator

Harnett Health

P.O. Box 1706 | Dunn, NC 28334

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Charlotte Snider

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Aug 30, 2013, 4:37:28 PM8/30/13
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Don’t forget my favorite:

MedForm that comes through ambulatory orders ( Mphase.tab, liquid), doctor’s don’t enter dispense quantity of 1 liquid, 1 gel, 1 Mphase.tab, etc.  This is a forever cleanup in the AOM dictionary, and it makes no sense whatsoever.

 

Charlotte Snider RN

I.T. Clinical Coordinator

Hammond Henry Hospital

309-944-9141

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Gast, Judith A., R.N.

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Sep 16, 2013, 10:43:12 AM9/16/13
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Can we add one more to the list and not getting any help from MT or Dr First because they say that Sure Script is the culprit….

When a prescription is written (especially in EDM because happens as soon as the medication is entered) it is transmitted to the pharmacy…then patient decides cannot take that for some reason or another, or want to change it…so the physician cancels the script and NOTHING HAPPENS…no notification of cancellation is sent to pharmacist…so the pharmacist fills it.   Relies on word of mouth….physician remember to notify staff and then busy staff remembering to calling pharmacy

 

 

Have a Great Day!

 

Judi Gast RN, BSN

EDM Project Manager

IT Analyst

Information Technology

912-287-4241

Fax: 912-287-2579

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Mayo Clinic Health System in Waycross

1900 Tebeau Street

Waycross, GA 31501

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From: meditech-...@mtusers.com [mailto:meditech-...@mtusers.com] On Behalf Of Pope, Amy
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Subject: Re: [MT-L] Erx Instructions

 

We are in the planning/testing phases for eRX with Dr First and I have identified this concern and a whole lot more….

Kathy Horton

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Sep 16, 2013, 11:41:43 AM9/16/13
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Trying this again, so it is not auto-encrypted.

 

Unfortunately not unique to Meditech/Dr First.  Needs to be mechanism to notify a pharmacy, electronically, an Rx has been stopped/cancelled.

 

Kathy Horton, RN

Clinical Information Systems

Franklin Memorial Hospital

Farmington, ME

 

 

Can we add one more to the list and not getting any help from MT or Dr First because they say that Sure Script is the culprit….

When a prescription is written (especially in EDM because happens as soon as the medication is entered) it is transmitted to the pharmacy…then patient decides cannot take that for some reason or another, or want to change it…so the physician cancels the script and NOTHING HAPPENS…no notification of cancellation is sent to pharmacist…so the pharmacist fills it.   Relies on word of mouth….physician remember to notify staff and then busy staff remembering to calling pharmacy

 



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Gast, Judith A., R.N.

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Sep 16, 2013, 12:05:53 PM9/16/13
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SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE?

 

 

Have a Great Day!

 

Judi Gast RN, BSN

EDM Project Manager

IT Analyst

Information Technology

912-287-4241

Fax: 912-287-2579

gast....@mayo.edu

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Mayo Clinic Health System in Waycross

1900 Tebeau Street

Waycross, GA 31501

mayoclinichealthsystem.org

 

Gast, Judith A., R.N.

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Sep 16, 2013, 1:49:36 PM9/16/13
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Really would appreciate everyone asking MT for help with this….maybe we could get it added to the  Proposal 23482

 

 

Have a Great Day!

 

Judi Gast RN, BSN

EDM Project Manager

IT Analyst

Information Technology

912-287-4241

Fax: 912-287-2579

gast....@mayo.edu

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Mayo Clinic Health System in Waycross

1900 Tebeau Street

Waycross, GA 31501

mayoclinichealthsystem.org

 

From: Kathy Horton [mailto:KHo...@fchn.org]

Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 11:42 AM
To: Kathy Horton; Gast, Judith A., R.N.; 'Pope, Amy'; 'Joe Farr'; 'medit...@mtusers.com'
Subject: RE: Erx Instructions

 

Trying this again, so it is not auto-encrypted.

Deignan Marianne

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Sep 16, 2013, 4:59:30 PM9/16/13
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For that reason and others (Some pts seem to want a paper prescription when the leave the ED) we print and sign paper prescriptions at discharge from the ED. Our acute care units transmit all except controlled substances.


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Gast, Judith A., R.N.

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Sep 17, 2013, 7:36:23 AM9/17/13
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I don’t think it is a matter of stopping eprescribe in ER I think it is a matter of getting a fix.   Just my opinion

 

 

Have a Great Day!

 

Judi Gast RN, BSN

EDM Project Manager

IT Analyst

Information Technology

912-287-4241

Fax: 912-287-2579

gast....@mayo.edu

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Mayo Clinic Health System in Waycross

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Waycross, GA 31501

mayoclinichealthsystem.org

 

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