MOO clients for Android-based devices

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Sean Randall

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Oct 24, 2020, 9:52:08 PM10/24/20
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Hi,
New to the group, and have skimmed the archive but please excuse any faux pas.

I'm trying to widen MOO as a teaching tool in specialist education, but am running up against screen readers for blind students on Kindle Fire and Braillenote devices, both based on Android with no clients seeming to provide reliable and accessible feedback to commands, or even decent scrollback buffer support. I'm covered in Linux environments, on Windows and iOS, which are my 3 other platforms (no Macs on my list yet).

I can't easily root classroom devices and get through terminals and things either, although throwing on an unsigned package is starting to appeal if I can find one.

Grateful for any experience anyone else can bring on this one?

 
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Steven Owens

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Oct 25, 2020, 12:26:40 AM10/25/20
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On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 9:52 PM Sean Randall <sran...@ncw.co.uk> wrote:
New to the group, and have skimmed the archive but please excuse any faux pas.

I'm trying to widen MOO as a teaching tool in specialist education,

What's "specialist education"?
 
but am running up against screen readers for blind students on Kindle Fire and Braillenote devices, both based on Android with no clients seeming to provide reliable and accessible feedback to commands, or even decent scrollback buffer support. I'm covered in Linux environments, on Windows and iOS, which are my 3 other platforms (no Macs on my list yet).

I can't easily root classroom devices and get through terminals and things either, although throwing on an unsigned package is starting to appeal if I can find one.

Grateful for any experience anyone else can bring on this one?

There's a blind or vision-impaired user on LambdaMOO, I'll check with them and if they approve I'll ask them to weigh in and/or give you their name so you can chat with them in person.

I'm somewhat curious about the general topic of android MOO clients;  I've tried one or two, but largely I've been unsatisfied with them.  Part of it is because I use an emacs MOO client and I tend to leave it running 24/7 on a server I have access to.  The IRC world has something they call a "bouncer" which is essentially a proxy server that gets between the IRC client and the rest of the world, for this exact purpose.  One of these days I may code up a similar thing for MOO...


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Andrew Walbran

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Oct 25, 2020, 10:41:43 AM10/25/20
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Ah, well if you want something web based, I've been working on a client that does that for a MOO I run. You can check it out in action at http://q.geek.nz/arthnorweb/, or look at the source at https://gitlab.com/arthnor. There's a WebSocket to TCP relay written in Rust and a web client written in Dart. You shouldn't need the LambaMOO patches I have there, unless you want colour support. There are one or two extra MOO verbs you need to add server-side to make it work, which I can dig up and share if you're interested, but it's pretty minimal.

On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 at 13:48, Sean Randall <SRan...@ncw.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Andrew 

From what I recall, Blowtorch was one of the best, except that text from a connected world isn't read automatically. I think it's quite unrealistic to expect it from any client not made with any accessibility  infrastructure by design. I'm considering coding up some sort of HTML5-based system, just as soon as I work out how to turn wesockets into conventional TCP/IP connections. ... I'm thinking i'll need some sort of relay system in place. 

Would be great to contact the Ghlowtorch developer to see what could be done maybe.   

On 25 Oct 2020, at 13:34, Andrew Walbran <qwa...@gmail.com> wrote:


I find BlowTorch mostly decent, though I have no idea how it works with screen readers or other accessibility tools.

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Andrew Walbran

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Oct 25, 2020, 10:41:43 AM10/25/20
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I find BlowTorch mostly decent, though I have no idea how it works with screen readers or other accessibility tools.

On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 at 01:52, Sean Randall <sran...@ncw.co.uk> wrote:
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