Cruz is out! It's Trump all the way! Now what?

[Brian Howell]

Unexpectedly and abruptly, Ted Cruz had ended his campaign for president. Kasich is irrelevant. The scenario that no one could believe in a year ago is about to be reified: Donald Trump is going to be the 2016 Republican nominee for President of the United States.

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/04/campaign_stunner_ted_cruz_drops_out_of_race_after_getting_trounced_by_trump_in_indiana/

[Jack Saunders]

Now ISIS gets to decide who will be the next U.S. President.  Let's hope he's scared them as much as he thinks.

On May 3, 2016, at 6:48 PM, Brian Howell <bdho...@gmail.com> wrote:

Unexpectedly and abruptly, Ted Cruz had ended his campaign for president. Kasich is irrelevant. The scenario that no one could believe in a year ago is about to be reified: Donald Trump is going to be the 2016 Republican nominee for President of the United States.

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/04/campaign_stunner_ted_cruz_drops_out_of_race_after_getting_trounced_by_trump_in_indiana/

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[Craig Good]

> On May 3, 2016, at 18:48 PM, Brian Howell <bdho...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Unexpectedly and abruptly, Ted Cruz had ended his campaign for president. Kasich is irrelevant. The scenario that no one could believe in a year ago is about to be reified: Donald Trump is going to be the 2016 Republican nominee for President of the United States.
>

That assumes that the Republican party continues to go along with the adorable fiction that candidates are selected democratically. Both they and the Democrats have had to pretty much admit that’s not the case this year.

The conventions should be interesting.



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[Brian Howell]

And now Kasich is apparently going to bow out this evening: http://www.businessinsider.com/john-kasich-dropping-out-report-2016-5

Was it just a few short months ago that we thought Trump could never be the nominee?

[alan pearson]

Hi

i think that the rise of both Trump and Sanders indicates that the new generation of voter is demanding a realignment of political forces in this country.  the same is happening in other western countries.  the catch phrases “conservative” and “liberal’ are not resonating with a large base of the population.  popularist issues such as immigration, onshore job creation, black lives matter and 1% have captured the publics imagination.  voters appear to be saying that they want to have a more direct say on how these issues are being addressed rather than seeding the authority to either a left or right leaning political party.  i think that Clinton will have a fight on her hands to win the 2016 election. the voters may well judge her as being to passive and “status quo” 

what do others think?

cheers

alan

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[jack saunders]

Actually, Craig, I think our parties are as democratic as they need to be.  Anybody can vote in his party's primary and have that basic influence.  And, if they want to put themselves into the process with greater zeal, they can be activists and get appointed to super-delegate status.  Doesn't make you a big shot, but acknowledges your willingness to work a little harder for the cause with some minor perks.  And, if you want to do nothing, or have no interest, you can do that too.  I am adamantly opposed to insisting on input from the uninformed and indifferent.

The other model you sometime hear imagined is one national primary on one day, with every adult required to vote.  In the online world, this is even feasible.  But it subjects the project to a great deal of accidental volatility.....and group's like ISIS, which specialize in manufacturing momentary uproar, would put prodigious effort into timing the public opinion snapshot.

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[jack saunders]

I agree with Alan -- the general election could follow the same trajectory as the primaries, Trump gaining currency through the familiar marketing dynamic that Uber rode.  The early adopters rave while the mass market cautiously watches.  For six months it was considered uncouth to back Donald Trump.  Now he's getting 60 pct of the Republican party -- a rough surrogate for serious people.

Of all the new buzz issues Alan mentioned, I think historians of the old order's collapse will eventually award the tipping point prize to that ramshackle operation called Occupy Wall Street when it somehow groped its way toward the most power political slogan of our time:  THE ONE PERCENT.  Lippmann rated such things on their ability to evoke "pictures in their heads."  This one is peerless.

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[Brandon Gates]

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 9:53:43 AM UTC-7, Alan Pearson wrote:

what do others think?

1) That if you are a Democrat, or like me caucus with them, you wanted Trump to be the nominee all along.
2) It scares the hell out of me that such a large contingent of Americans resonate with his demagoguery.
3) Consider that increased partisanship may be masquerading as a genuine desire for change.  IOW, what "change" really means is that "our" side gets more of what we want because the opposition has been crushed.  Or imploded under the weight of its own hubris as the case may be.

The biggest change I'd like to see is a reduction of winner-take-all politics and the attendant obstructionism which it entails.  My view is that progress occurs when moderates on both sides can reach more mutually acceptable agreements, whether by common ground bi-partisanship, horse-trading and/or compromise solutions.

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