Mystery Switch in starboard lazarette

[Michael Hoff]

I've owned my 26C for 16 years and I guess it's about time I got to know her. There's a red switch In the lazarette on the starboard side located near the fuel gauge, blower switch and shut off switch (or plunger). Can anyone tell me what it is and what it does?

Mike Hoff

NS26C Evelyn May

Lake Tashmoo, Martha's Vineyard

[Mark Nerenhausen]

I have a 26C and have never seen a switch like that in that location.  Do you have a photo?

Mark Nerenhausen

N26C Penguin

Washington Island, WI

[Cedric Guthrie]

Morning Michael 

Years ago I installed a switch on Single Malt in similar position as you describe - this to allow a powerful hand held spot light to be turned on approaching moorings or motoring at night during lobster season maybe something like that is what you have?

Safe Sailing 

Single Malt 26C #207

Chester NS

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On Jul 21, 2024, at 20:13, 'Michael Hoff' via INA Nonsuch Discussion Group <INA-Nonsuch-Di...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I've owned my 26C for 16 years and I guess it's about time I got to know her. There's a red switch In the lazarette on the starboard side located near the fuel gauge, blower switch and shut off switch (or plunger). Can anyone tell me what it is and what it does?

Mike Hoff

NS26C Evelyn May

Lake Tashmoo, Martha's Vineyard

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[Pat Furr]

Could it be a circuit breaker? Do you have an electric windless?

Pat Furr

Bandolero NS26C #133 

Rye, NH

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[Joe Valinoti]

If it has heavy wires on it, it’s for an electric motor or something to do with batteries.  As someone said, send us a photo.

Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA

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[BRIAN CAYER]

Mike,

Does anything happen when you change the switch? Wear a helmet when you do if you have not already been ejected into Lake Tashmoo! 😉

Brian Cayer

Spirit~Wind

N30U 419

Westbrook, Ct

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[Sfoose]

Another possibility is a switch to an auxiliary fuel pump - in line for - priming fuel filters - bleeding systems - Pushing fuel if the engine fuel pump fails.   I use the pump through a fuel loop to polish my fuel too. 

Steve Foose.    

Jules Verne   U 30   

Green turtle cay.  Abaco's.  Bahamas. 

Pittsfield. Mass 

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[Michael Hoff]

Here are photos of the mystery switch. It only has the thin white wire you see. I assume it has two leads connected to the switch but I haven't opened the box to see. It seems to run into the engine room but from there I couldn't see where it goes. The boat has not had an electric windlass or a spotlight since 2008 when I purchased it. When I flip the switch there's no sound, nothing happens and I'm not ejected into Lake Tashmoo. It's a riddle wrapped in an enigma. 

Mike Hoff

NS26 Evelyn May

Lake Tashmoo, MV. 

[BRIAN CAYER]

Mike,

nice little box. Hand crafted by a P.O. for an important function they were trying to control is my take. Is there any way to follow the wire to its source? Take a smart kid for a sail and send them ferreting would be my suggestion.

Brian

On Jul 22, 2024, at 9:39 PM, 'Michael Hoff' via INA Nonsuch Discussion Group <INA-Nonsuch-Di...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Here are photos of the mystery switch. It only has the thin white wire you see. I assume it has two leads connected to the switch but I haven't opened the box to see. It seems to run into the engine room but from there I couldn't see where it goes. The boat has not had an electric windlass or a spotlight since 2008 when I purchased it. When I flip the switch there's no sound, nothing happens and I'm not ejected into Lake Tashmoo. It's a riddle wrapped in an enigma. 

Mike Hoff

NS26 Evelyn May

Lake Tashmoo, MV. 

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[Sprio]

I know what that is and what it does!

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[Colle Bustin]

Could it be a less then stellar install of a switch for the steaming light ?

I installed a panel in a similar location so I had the breakers for the blower, steaming light, bow/ speeder light, and the wash down pump. Without having to go below or leave the helm.

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[Bob Neches (Me Gusta, Nonsuch 26U #233)]

Self-destruct button.

Sorry, Mike.  If you don't maintain your boat, having flipped that switch will cause it to fall apart within the next 50 years.  You'll need to get on top of the necessary work.

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   Me Gusta
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[William Evans]

I had one as a kid. One

flips the switch and it shakes and a hand comes out and pushes the switch off 

William Evans
“Companionship “ 30U #465
West River MD.

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[Charles Garbarino]

Flux capacitor.

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[JohnS]

How about a serious suggestion (much as I have enjoyed the others!)

On our 26, we have an additional switch on the panel with the fuel gauge and blower switch. It is the manual switch for the electric bilge pump, so one can turn the pump on (I guess) without getting your socks wet.

JohnS NS26C 046 lying Bath ON.

[Mike BIANKA]

You need to follow the wires and see where they end up. They have to lead somewhere. Maybe contact the previous owner. My thinking it is a kill switch that prevents the turning on the engine to prevent the engine from starting. To prevent the boat being stolen.  But, that is just a guess. I think contacting the previous owner is your quickest option to find out.

[Julie & Lloyd on Rendezvous]

No idea what the switch is for, but would be a nice location for an engine room light switch.

Only on wire seems weird to me- I am far from electrically knowledgeable, but would expect a wire in with power and then wire out to whatever is being controlled.

lloyd herman

Rendezvous, 30U

Port Washington, NY

[Michael Hoff]

OK I think may have found the answer to the mystery switch. Upon further digging I found that the switch is connected to a 2 pin cord with a dual head plug typically used to connect a solar panel. Considering the dual heal plug and the location of the switch in the lazarette next to the plunger used to stop the engine, and just below the ignition switch, I think one of the former owners installed it to easily connect a solar panel to the batteries after stopping the engine and to disconnect the solar panel before turning the engine on. The switch made this possible to do from the helm. Not a bad idea, n’est ce pas?

Mike Hoff

NS26 Evelyn May

Lake Tashmoo, Martha’s Vineyard

[BRIAN CAYER]

Mike,

I think solar is a great addition to any boat. Especially if kept at a mooring as Evelyn May is. I don’t remember if you had it way back when but I would recommend it as your next project if not.

Brian Cayer

Spirit~Wind

N30U 419

Westbrook,Ct

On Jul 24, 2024, at 4:11 PM, 'Michael Hoff' via INA Nonsuch Discussion Group <INA-Nonsuch-Di...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

OK I think may have found the answer to the mystery switch. Upon further digging I found that the switch is connected to a 2 pin cord with a dual head plug typically used to connect a solar panel. Considering the dual heal plug and the location of the switch in the lazarette next to the plunger used to stop the engine, and just below the ignition switch, I think one of the former owners installed it to easily connect a solar panel to the batteries after stopping the engine and to disconnect the solar panel before turning the engine on. The switch made this possible to do from the helm. Not a bad idea, n’est ce pas?

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[Martin ZENO NS 30C #33 Toronto]

Mike

time for a little detective work. 

1. Disconnect shore power in case the wires are for AC

2. Shut off battery switch, take the cover off the box and check to see if either wire is energized. If yes, then this switch controls something that is connected directly to the battery.  I hooked up my refrigeration this way, so I could run it without having the battery switch on.

3. If no, turn on battery switch, is either wire energized? If yes then this switch controls something that is not wired to the 12v panel.

4. If no, turn on all DC breakers, is either wire energized?. If yes turn off all breakers and then turn each one on until the wire is energized. Whatever that breaker controls, your mystery switch controls something in that circuit.

5. If no, plug in shore power and turn on main breaker, is either wire energized. I doubt this is AC but if you get to this stage be careful when poking about.

6. If no the switch does nothing

Martin

ZENO N30C #33

Toronto

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Seems the mystery is solved but I recognized that switch. It was original equipment on my Nonsuch and used as the bilge blower fan switch. Probably  installed as a bilge gas venting fan by Hinterhoeller . 

Gary /Aloki