Windlass for Nonsuch 30 Ultra

[Freestyle]

I just purchased a Nonsuch Ultra 30 and wondered if a windlass will fit on the bow forward of the mast and which types are recommended?

[Dave Calder]

I installed a Lewmar Profish 700 on SOUTHPAW with no difficulty.  I works well.

Dave Calder

NS 30C 158 

[Joe Valinoti]

Welcome to the Nonsuch community.  Yes, they will and are many and varied.  It must be done when the mast is out for accessibility.  Some of the choices are electric, manual, size, manual override if electric and how to power.  Some have a separate battery forward with small charging and control wires led aft.  Mine, a Simpson (no longer manufactured), does not have a separate battery and the heavy cables are led aft.   

     Note how many of us sign our names.  We do this so that when questions are asked we know what you have and where you are.

Regards,

Joe Valinoti
S/V IL Gatto NS30U #221 (1984)
Sea Harbour Yacht Club
Oriental, NC

 

  

 

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From: Freestyle

To: INA-Nonsuch-Di...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:43 AM

Subject: Windlass for Nonsuch 30 Ultra

[Freestyle]

Hey Joe, thanks for the signature protocol. this is my first sailing vessel and I have a hull # but, can't figure out my abbreviated hull # in 1985.I plan to move the vessel to the western caribbean (Belize) in early December so the homeport is still in flux. Thanks again for the input.
Steven Hewitt with "Freestyle"

[Freestyle]

Thanks Dave, can this windlass be installed while the mast is in place?
Steven Hewitt

[Joel Watt]

Hi Steven,

 

I installed a Lewmar 1000, the same windlass type as Dave has, and I too find it works very well.

 

As far as installing it with the mast up, I think you would have to hire a very small contortionist to do the job. i.e. I really don't think it's doable with mast up, when you consider the need for a backing plate as well as the wiring to the control box etc.

 

Good luck and enjoy Belize!

 

Joel Watt

N30U 258, "Virgin Gorda"

Kingston, On

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Freestyle

To: INA-Nonsuch-Di...@googlegroups.com

[R David Young]

Welcome to the group. I installed a Maxwell RC10-8 with capstan on our 30U last spring while our boat was on the hard, with the mast down. We used it a lot this year and are very happy with it. I cannot overstate how much more enjoyable raising the anchor now is. I am having a problem with the wireless remote which was supplied with the windlass but I am confident Maxwell will take care of the issue under warranty over the winter. Installing a vertical windlass like ours with the mast up would be just about impossible but it might be possible to install a horizontal type windlass without pulling the mast. If you opt not to install a dedicated battery forward near the windlass (as we didn't) you will need to run some very large and expensive wires from the windlass to the batteries aft. We used 1 gauge marine grade wire purchased online for about $3.50/ft. Same wire at West Marine was nearly twice that. If you would like more information about my experience with selecting and installing this windlass, email me directly and I will be happy to help any way I can. Good luck.

Dave Young
Bay Cat, #0U #402
Suttons Bay, MI

[william evans]

My 30 has a loftan royal mechanical windlass and works well.

[Joe Valinoti]

Mine has a plate in the cockpit that says, (I think) 30221 which makes it a 30 ft Nonsuch and Production number 221

Joe Valinoti
S/V IL Gatto NS30U #221 (1984)
Sea Harbour Yacht Club
Oriental, NC

 

  

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Freestyle

To: INA-Nonsuch-Di...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:09 AM

Subject: Re: Windlass for Nonsuch 30 Ultra

[Jim Cosgrove]

Steven,
On the INA web site, there is a guide to the Hinterhoeller hull numbering system.  Look under the tab "General Information" then "What is a Nonsuch" and finally "Hull Numbering System"

The HIN for a 1985 Nonsuch 30 should start with ZHYN3xxx... where the xxx is the production number for the hull and what follows after that is the code for the manufacturing date and model year.

Enjoy your new boat!

Jim Cosgrove
FATE N30U #343 1986
Galesville, MD

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[Allen Perrins]

Hi

 

I installed a surface mount Simpson/Lowrance much like the Profish 700 except with a capstan to port, chain gypsy to starboard.

I too ran the heavy cable from battery bank  via breaker disconnect, mounted aft, to mast area. Windlass can be seen on website under "ideas".

Capstan can be used to handle main halyard.

 

Strong recommendation, divide the anchor locker into two sides. I used painted, tempered, 1/8 inch, Masonite with holes as used

for wall hanging tools , etc.  Used two pieces, spliced together, in order to carry the separation from top to bottom.

Unfortunately, gypsy/capstan surface mounting products are frightfully expensive these days. Surface mounting is easiest to

install. 

 

I too have a Classic NS 30 .  I don't recall if the installation was done mast-in. My mast is easily accessible to

to non-midget bodies !!!..

 

Keep in mind that the windlass is not used to "unplug" the anchor from the muddy bottom. That is done

with the engine and boat motion. With a wireless control, this can be done single handed.

 

Al

Barbcat NS 30C #170

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Calder
Sent: Oct 25, 2012 8:58 AM
To: INA-Nonsuch-Di...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Windlass for Nonsuch 30 Ultra

I installed a Lewmar Profish 700 on SOUTHPAW with no difficulty.  I works well.

Dave Calder

NS 30C 158 

-----Original Message-----
From: Freestyle <palap...@gmail.com>
To: INA-Nonsuch-Discussion-Group <INA-Nonsuch-Di...@googlegroups.com>

[Robert & Diane Hindle]

Welcome,
We installed a Quick Windlass 8 years ago on our 30 Classic. It was the least expensive at the time (by far). It has performed flawlessly and that includes a 9 month cruise. Around 1000 hrs engine time over the years. Really no maintenance to speak of. We are all chain. The mast must be out for installation.
Are you sailing to Belize?
Watch out for Sandy, best wishes to the fleet!
Bob Hindle
Pipe Dream 30C #230

On Oct 25, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Freestyle wrote:

[alp...@sympatico.ca]

Welcome to the group! 

We installed a Muir HR1200 this summer when the mast was down. It's a horizontal windlass and works like a dream. At the same time also installed a MZ Electronic wireless remote with a chain counter to tell us how much chain we've let out.

Ron & Diane Schryver

"Alpha Waves" '87 NS30U #393

Georgian Bay Ontario

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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:43:51 -0700
From: palap...@gmail.com
To: INA-Nonsuch-Di...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Windlass for Nonsuch 30 Ultra

[Ron Singerman]

I installed a Maxwell HRC-8 last year based on the recommendations of
Practical Sailor. I use a Lewmar wireless remote as well as the
toggle supplied with the windlass. I did install the unit with the
mast up and was able to get to all the areas necessary with a little
bit of manipulation. I use 50' of chain and 250' of 8 plait.

>>ron<<
S/V Serenity
Nonsuch 30 U 479
Gulfport, FL

[kickin...@gmail.com]

Could you give me a ball park on the cost of installation please?

Brian Chipman

Mawingo

Nonsuch 30U 344

Mahone Bay NS

[Paul Miller]

I installed a Lewmar Pro 1000 on my 30U with the mast in. I replaced the old hawse hole with a deck plate and used the deck plate as an access to install the windlass from the deck. It was really very easy. One picture shows the board I used to check what the access would be like.

It’s worked very well for me but if I had it to do again I would go for the ProFish for the remote free fall release.

A Paul M

NS30U #211, Sandpiper 

Cowichan Bay, B.C.

[Joe Valinoti]

Great idea, Paul!! 

 

Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA

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[Paul Miller]

Thanks Joe. It’s a nice area to have an extra access to as well.

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Cowichan Bay B.C.

[Joe Valinoti]

Mine came with one.  However, when I did the washdown, the mast was out. 

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[Mark Powers La Reina 26C Vancouver, B.C.]

La Reina came with a manual windlass mounted on the deck. I replaced it with a Lewmar Pro 1000, horizontal windlass. I accomplished this with the mast in place. I did not have to cut and access hole in the deck. LA Reina is a 26 Classic and I was able to climb into the locker behind the mast and then reach around the sides of the mast for the install. One challenge arose from the fact that when the manual windlass was installed a large glob of resin was left on the underside of the deck. I only discovered this when I found the backing plate would not sit flat against the deck. I could not see it. I would take a picture, study it and then cut by memory. Take another picture, more study and more painting. Once that was done I had to hold the backing plate in place while starting a nut on one of the studs. This had to be done with one hand. Then I was able to stack the backing washer and nylon nut together and start them on the other studs. Once they were in place and holding the backing plate I was able too go back and put a washer and locking nut on the first stud. A good deal of fun with my face pasted up against the mast and my short arms extend as far as possible. 

Pulling the mast, cutting an access hole in the deck or conscripting one of the neighbour's small child wold have made it much easier.

The expression on Paul's face in the one photo suggests he had some concern about what might be hiding behind the plywood.

Mark Powers

[Ernie Abugov N22 - #56 "Moustaches" Toronto]

Mark -

I'm glad that you made some reference to Paul's photo. I thought that Paul had entered the Cowichan Bay "Do I really look like a railway semaphore ??" contest. If he'd have painted it red, he'd have won first place, to boot !!

But, seriously, I must say that the idea of the deck plate is excellent. 

Ernie A. in Toronto