W27 starter motor removal

[Bill M]

My W27 starter motor needs to be replaced. I get a heavy click when I try to start the engine and with my hand on the solenoid I can feel it. I can also hear the bendix retract when I turn the engine by hand. I have removed two bolts that hold the starter to the block but the starter feels like there is a third bolt and I know can’t be. My question is: Has anyone had experience removing these starters and can they be real tight in the opening or did I unbolt something else when I took out the bottom bolt? I have an opening in the starboard locker that I can look in or get an arm in but not both. I expected the starter to fall out like a car starter would. 

Bill Mortensen

NS 30U #335

Summer Song

Noank (currently in Newport), Ct

[Joe Valinoti]

There are only two bolts 180 deg from each other.  Bang it with a hammer to free it.

Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA

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[Bill M]

Thanks Joe. There isn’t a lot of room to be “banging” with a hammer and tapping wasn’t doing it. I sprayed the seam with WD40 and pried with a screw driver and got it to move. I’ve sprayed more WD40 in the gap and I’m letting it fester. Remind me when I get home to put some real penetrating oil on the boat. Whose idea was it to use the back end of the top starter bolt to ground the electrical panel?

Bill Mortensen

NS 30U #335

Summer Song

Noank, CT

[Michael Stangl]

Bill, 

I removed my starter and solenoid last fall. Although awkward to get at, the bolts came off fairly easily.  Page 336 of the Westerbeke Parts Manual shows starter details. 

 I purchased the starter and solenoid from Sterndrive.cc. See below.

		Westerbeke Diesel Starter 12V 15-Tooth CW Rotation

 

Attached is a photo of my new starter in place. I will be in Jamestown, RI this weekend if you want to look at a new installation in person.

Good luck,

Mike 

Mariposa

NS 30U / Hull#272

Dutch Harbor, RI

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[Bill M]

Thanks Mike, out of desperation I should have reman starter from Hansen Marine today. Paid twice what I could have bought one for but I’m at a transient slip and don’t want to spend a lot of time here. Newport was a stop on the way to Cutty Hunk. It looks like you did a nice clean install. Was the picture through the observation hole in the starboard locker?  After his I will be making my opening bigger. 

Bill M. 

NS30U #335

Summer Song

Noank, CT

[peter farley]

I removed my starter last year. I found it easier to jut crawl inside the starboard side lazerette. Remove the wood panel around that side of the motor. I used a 2 foot section of 2x4 placed at the back of the  starter and hit it with a hammer. It took a few good whacks. But it gives you a lot more room to hit the wood. The starter has a shoulder that goes into a pretty tight hole to align it. The two pieces corroded together. So that takes up all the play in the hole. 

Peter Farley

Knot in a hurry 30u #328

Keyport nj 

[Bob Gehrman]

Bill - 

Like any starter, they can be a little rusted to the engine block. Take a heavy hammer and a wood block to tap it loose. It shouldn’t take much to loosen it. The teeth are not tight inside the gearing. It should pop right off once it’s loose from the block. It is heavy though, so be prepared.

Bob Gehrman

NS36 #52 “Fortunate”

Greenwich Bay, RI

On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 9:26 AM Bill M <wmorten...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Bill M]

Peter, you must be younger and more limber than me.  Our hull numbers are so close that I imagine the boats are the same. I have the fuel tank which sticks out about a foot more than the starboard locker. I looked at that approach yesterday and didn’t see how I could possibly make it work. Once I got the starter to move I got a scraper between it and the block. Worked the seam until a screw driver would fit and then it popped right out. Reverse procedure should be a lot easier. 

Bill M.

NS30U #335

Summer Song

Noank, Ct

[Ed Brost]

I removed the starter on our W27 a couple of years ago.

After removing the bolts I recall having to tap it a few times with a rubber mallet to separate it from the crankcase. 

Ed and Marlene Brost

SaSeaCat,  30U

Sarnia Ont.

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[Bill M]

I finished the job. Knowing what I know now I would have replaced the top starter bolt with a stud lock-nutted on the transmission side with appropriate length sticking through on the other side to hang the starter on. This would eliminate the one handed juggle lining up the starter. 

Thank you everyone for your help. 

Bill Mortensen

NS30U #335

Summer Song

Noank, Ct