Blog-you 打算短期內結束

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pig

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Dec 13, 2007, 2:53:10 AM12/13/07
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http://blog-you.com/guestlog/

從blog-you 的guestlog 得知,blog-you 打算在短期內結束。雖然隨著BSP 在香港掘起而影響力減少,但是blog-
you 始終是不同BSP以及公海blog之間的交流之地。這樣結束有點可惜。

剛剛在twitter 上跟Admun 討論起,其實大家可不可以為blog-you 做點事呢?(當然大前題是大家覺得Blog-you 仍有其存在
價值)

Ng Sze Hin

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Dec 13, 2007, 2:59:35 AM12/13/07
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我已有好陣子沒有去過 blog-you,因為覺得那裡被蕭若元騎劫了。

我們本來的確需要一個獨立的 blog directory。可惜。

pig

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Dec 13, 2007, 3:03:05 AM12/13/07
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我最近先發現蕭若元個blog 其實唔係蕭若元自已開。只係粉絲轉貼。


On Dec 13, 12:59 am, "Ng Sze Hin" <ngsze...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 我已有好陣子沒有去過 blog-you,因為覺得那裡被蕭若元騎劫了。
>
> 我們本來的確需要一個獨立的 blog directory。可惜。
>

sidekick

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Dec 13, 2007, 3:17:25 AM12/13/07
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好像曾問過紫草有關這事,
卻忘了那個blog 是誰開,
為何又在blog-you "完全覆蓋"...



> >http://blog-you.com/guestlog/
>
> > 從blog-you 的guestlog 得知,blog-you 打算在短期內結束。雖然隨著BSP 在香港掘起而影響力減少,但是blog-
> > you 始終是不同BSP以及公海blog之間的交流之地。這樣結束有點可惜。
>
> > 剛剛在twitter 上跟Admun 討論起,其實大家可不可以為blog-you 做點事呢?(當然大前題是大家覺得Blog-you 仍有其存在
> > 價值)





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ShineCatcher

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Dec 13, 2007, 3:54:27 AM12/13/07
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為blog-you做點事相信也有少人願意,但blog-you的根本問題似乎是站點本身不能吸引用戶經常回流。

要救blog-you可能要把blog-you轉型為funp類的社區! 但這有點難

如果只是幫它寫推介,不治本!

紫草

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Dec 13, 2007, 4:38:37 AM12/13/07
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據了解,是blog-you 管理工作過於沉重。(我和cow 等的blog 不會受影響)

至於蕭若元嘛,我沒有什麼理會,在Web2.0中,誰有時間,誰就能騎劫平台。

cow

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Dec 13, 2007, 4:58:18 AM12/13/07
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blog-you的博客文摘還在用blogmarks,似乎有點不合時宜了,而blog-you自己架設的bligg又毫無作為。其實我相當懷疑就算香港有一個比digg等更強大的網摘平台,是否就能做得很熱鬧。
有時候我一天寫幾篇,或者其他放在hkbloggers.org的blog幾天沒有更新,公牛擠奶也會把blog-you騎劫.
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littleoslo

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Dec 13, 2007, 7:20:29 AM12/13/07
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大家記得 以前的 oui blog 嗎?

紫草

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Dec 13, 2007, 8:55:50 AM12/13/07
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嘿嘿,cow,我和你也騎劫了hemidemi 裡的hkbg。

ouiblog 的歷史我倒不太熟悉。

On Dec 13, 5:58 pm, cow <cow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> blog-you的博客文摘還在用blogmarks,似乎有點不合時宜了,而blog-you自己架設的bligg又毫無作為。其實我相當懷疑就算香港有一個比digg等更強大的網摘平台,是否就能做得很熱鬧。
> 有時候我一天寫幾篇,或者其他放在hkbloggers.org的blog幾天沒有更新,公牛擠奶也會把blog-you騎劫.
>

sidekick

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Dec 13, 2007, 10:31:45 AM12/13/07
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oui 可算是獨力經營的一個例子吧~

ClubEddy - www.clubeddy.com

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Dec 13, 2007, 1:03:47 PM12/13/07
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若管理工作過於沉重,更不可能轉型為funp類的社區,而且,market size有限...
要不然放棄一些功能,祇做一些對blog-you有利發展的事,objective...
um...看了又看,原來一直以來也找不到"About Us"

很喜歡blog-you的concept,也希望可以做點事。
我不太懂技術,若是運作模式、或是收支平衡等事務,可以幫上忙嗎?

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Dec 13, 2007, 8:34:05 PM12/13/07
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I think setting up a new blogcast system is not complicated. Actually,
I am doing a proof-of-concept right now. 8)

As for the blog directory, I am yet to see a good open source
candidate.

If we able to kick it off, I guess we can go from there.

admun

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wrote:

紫草

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Dec 14, 2007, 4:02:37 AM12/14/07
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要做個聯播其實不難,不過什麼要做才是問題。

On Dec 14, 9:34 am, "edmond...@gmail.com" <edmond...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think setting up a new blogcast system is not complicated. Actually,
> I am doing a proof-of-concept right now. 8)
>
> As for the blog directory, I am yet to see a good open source
> candidate.
>
> If we able to kick it off, I guess we can go from there.
>
> admun
>
> On 12月13日, 下午1時03分, "ClubEddy -www.clubeddy.com" <m...@clubeddy.com>

大狂

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Dec 15, 2007, 7:02:32 AM12/15/07
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大家好,很久沒有上blog-you,得知這事特來留言,希望blog-you不要摺。

管理我不懂,只是有點system admin的經驗,有用得着小弟的地方請提出 ^_^

ClubEddy - www.clubeddy.com

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Dec 16, 2007, 3:05:16 PM12/16/07
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小弟認為不應該focus在聯播,而是「香港本地網」,聯播是一個小小服務。
不了解經營的因素,有時可能是money cost,也可以是time cost(應該說是機會成本)。
若是non-profit,可以考慮公開情況,讓其他人參與保護blog-you。

ClubEddy懂的祇是營運、strategy和operation work flow的商業事務,說策略呢,認為要cut去有money
cost的服務,而機會成本(可能是網主不能抽時間),讓大眾去一起支援,發展就不是這個moment做,但需要決定一個single
objective(入門網站?專業網站?推動本地blogger交流?etc.),而每一部份也是policy去管理和set制度。

保留香港特色的元件才有價值,但方法可以很flexible,利用現有的service便行(順便可以介紹blog-you如何利用3rd
party service去建立網站,也是一條出路)。

還有隨手寫了一些文字:
[ 關注:Blog-You網站即將關閉 http://www.clubeddy.com/2007/12/blog-you-will-close-down.html
]

Regards,

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Dec 16, 2007, 3:55:04 PM12/16/07
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Agreed. My goal is to encourage interaction in the HK blogosphere. So
to me, blogcast is just one component of it. In a way it's
"advertising" for one, but it's actually "putting it out there" so
your blog/contents reach wide and deep in HK blogosphere. Hopefully
this create an environment that pull interested people together and
interact.

Angus

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Dec 16, 2007, 10:22:10 PM12/16/07
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我覺得自發參與的聯播作用不大, 因為沒有性格和質數的保証 (像 memdb 那一個)

Jacky

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Dec 16, 2007, 10:25:09 PM12/16/07
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其實對一般人來說會想在blog-you 一類網站看到甚麼?
- blog 聯播?
- 文章推介/網摘?
- 討論區?
- blog tutorials?

值得思考~

On Dec 17, 2007 11:22 AM, Angus <angu...@gmail.com > wrote:
我覺得自發參與的聯播作用不大, 因為沒有性格和質數的保証 (像 memdb 那一個)

On Dec 17, 4:55 am, "edmond...@gmail.com" <edmond...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Agreed. My goal is to encourage interaction in the HK blogosphere. So
> to me, blogcast is just one component of it. In a way it's
> "advertising" for one, but it's actually "putting it out there" so
> your blog/contents reach wide and deep in HK blogosphere. Hopefully
> this create an environment that pull interested people together and
> interact.
>
> On 12月14日, 上午4時02分, "紫草" <myosoti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 要做個聯播其實不難,不過什麼要做才是問題。
>
> > On Dec 14, 9:34 am, "edmond...@gmail.com" <edmond...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> > > I think setting up a new blogcast system is not complicated. Actually,
> > > I am doing a proof-of-concept right now. 8)
>
> > > As for the blog directory, I am yet to see a good open source
> > > candidate.
>
> > > If we able to kick it off, I guess we can go from there.
>
> > > admun
>
> > > On 12月13日, 下午1時03分, "ClubEddy - www.clubeddy.com" <m...@clubeddy.com>

> > > wrote:
>
> > > > 若管理工作過於沉重,更不可能轉型為funp類的社區,而且,market size有限...
> > > > 要不然放棄一些功能,祇做一些對blog-you有利發展的事,objective...
> > > > um...看了又看,原來一直以來也找不到"About Us"
>
> > > > 很喜歡blog-you的concept,也希望可以做點事。
> > > > 我不太懂技術,若是運作模式、或是收支平衡等事務,可以幫上忙嗎?
>
> > > > --
> > > > ClubEddy
> > > > Web:http://www.clubeddy.com
> > > > Feed:http://feeds.feedburner.com/clubeddy
> > > > Recent Post: Web 2.0網絡資源分散的問題
>
> > > > On 12月13日, 下午5時38分, "紫草" <myosoti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > 據了解,是blog-you 管理工作過於沉重。(我和cow 等的blog 不會受影響)
>
> > > > > 至於蕭若元嘛,我沒有什麼理會,在Web2.0中,誰有時間,誰就能騎劫平台。
>
> > > > > On 12月13日, 下午4時54分, ShineCatcher <shinecatc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > 為blog-you做點事相信也有少人願意,但blog-you的根本問題似乎是站點本身不能吸引用戶經常回流。
>
> > > > > > 要救blog-you可能要把blog-you轉型為funp類的社區! 但這有點難
>
> > > > > > 如果只是幫它寫推介,不治本!
>
> > > > > > On 12月13日, 下午3時53分, pig <florap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > http://blog-you.com/guestlog/
>
> > > > > > > 從blog-you 的guestlog 得知,blog-you 打算在短期內結束。雖然隨著BSP 在香港掘起而影響力減少,但是blog-
> > > > > > > you 始終是不同BSP以及公海blog之間的交流之地。這樣結束有點可惜。
>
> > > > > > > 剛剛在twitter 上跟Admun 討論起,其實大家可不可以為blog-you 做點事呢?(當然大前題是大家覺得Blog-you 仍有其存在
> > > > > > > 價值)
>
>





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Dec 17, 2007, 11:51:53 AM12/17/07
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既然決定左, 都只有係錦, blogyou都做左好多野

On 12月13日, 下午3時53分, pig <florap...@gmail.com> wrote:

pig

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Dec 17, 2007, 3:30:00 PM12/17/07
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For me mostly "blog 聯播". I check it few times per day

On Dec 16, 8:25 pm, Jacky <jacky...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 其實對一般人來說會想在blog-you 一類網站看到甚麼?
> - blog 聯播?
> - 文章推介/網摘?
> - 討論區?
> - blog tutorials?
>
> 值得思考~
>
> On Dec 17, 2007 11:22 AM, Angus <angus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > 我覺得自發參與的聯播作用不大, 因為沒有性格和質數的保証 (像 memdb 那一個)
>
> > On Dec 17, 4:55 am, "edmond...@gmail.com" <edmond...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Agreed. My goal is to encourage interaction in the HK blogosphere. So
> > > to me, blogcast is just one component of it. In a way it's
> > > "advertising" for one, but it's actually "putting it out there" so
> > > your blog/contents reach wide and deep in HK blogosphere. Hopefully
> > > this create an environment that pull interested people together and
> > > interact.
>
> > > On 12月14日, 上午4時02分, "紫草" <myosoti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > 要做個聯播其實不難,不過什麼要做才是問題。
>
> > > > On Dec 14, 9:34 am, "edmond...@gmail.com" <edmond...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I think setting up a new blogcast system is not complicated.
> > Actually,
> > > > > I am doing a proof-of-concept right now. 8)
>
> > > > > As for the blog directory, I am yet to see a good open source
> > > > > candidate.
>
> > > > > If we able to kick it off, I guess we can go from there.
>
> > > > > admun
>
> > > > > On 12月13日, 下午1時03分, "ClubEddy -www.clubeddy.com" <m...@clubeddy.com>

edmo...@gmail.com

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Dec 18, 2007, 1:34:27 AM12/18/07
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性格和質數 is something hard to control in a blogcast, IMHO.... i.e. looked
at the blogcast from sina and others.....

What I found is even the signal-to-noise ratio is high, there are gem
in it. From time to time I found a blog or two interesting to add to
my RSS reader.

紫草

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Dec 18, 2007, 3:25:51 AM12/18/07
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blog you 公告,見  http://blog-you.com/2007/12/17/278/ :

說到要考慮把網站關閉其實是有經過深思的,但關閉的意思是限於它必須要人力資源去維持的部份,因為結束的主要原因是我已經沒有能力和時間去做一些推動
Blog全面化發展的事和維持一些需要人手操作的事,例如聯播和網誌目錄。至於整個網站是否會以某種形式存在,我是持開放態度,也會考慮到一眾網友的意
見。

Blog-You是有歷史意義的網站,也見證了一個時代的轉變,我是寧願把它保留也不願把毀掉的,只是今天我會說Blog-You任務完成,他是一個里
程,也是一個模範,或者有一天有人可以做一些有相似意義的網站。這類網站意義首先是在於可以把來自不同BSP,不同興趣的Blogger集結起來成為互
聯之地,其次是資訊的整理和分類,建立不同的頻道令blog能發展到不同的領域和用途上,第三是特定社會議題的擴展和深化討論,尤以一些被社會或傳統媒
體忽視的題目為最主,因為這些議題可能會是重要而被忽略,也可能是傳統媒體所不能說和不敢說之事又或是社會的關注和討論氣氛嚴重不足。

我相信經營此類網站必須以以上為目標方能為香港的Blogosophere帶來更高的價值。然而對於第一點都未能達到的Blog-You來說,大家應該
寄望於後來者多於對這裡過分留戀。

ClubEddy - www.clubeddy.com

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Dec 18, 2007, 6:13:48 AM12/18/07
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For me, I would like to see Blogcast and MyBlogLog reader. They are
very valuable. Both of them can let me know about "what HK bloggers
write and care about".

I highly want tutorial for blog/website-publishing, specific fit for
HK (Chinese and also international, multi-language, mass-culture,
etc).

文章推介/網摘... i think it is optional, or produced by some good blogger
chosen by blog-you adminisrator, i.e. semi-open editing environment.

討論區: essential and admin. by any person who wants to?

In fact, are the objectives of HKBG and blog-you different in
objectives?
I personally think that HKBG discuss about blogosphere and blog-you is
a portal for bloggers.
Is there any room to intergate?

On 12月17日, 上午11時25分, Jacky <jacky...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 其實對一般人來說會想在blog-you 一類網站看到甚麼?
> - blog 聯播?
> - 文章推介/網摘?
> - 討論區?
> - blog tutorials?
>
> 值得思考~
>
> On Dec 17, 2007 11:22 AM, Angus <angus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > 我覺得自發參與的聯播作用不大, 因為沒有性格和質數的保証 (像 memdb 那一個)
>
> > On Dec 17, 4:55 am, "edmond...@gmail.com" <edmond...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Agreed. My goal is to encourage interaction in the HK blogosphere. So
> > > to me, blogcast is just one component of it. In a way it's
> > > "advertising" for one, but it's actually "putting it out there" so
> > > your blog/contents reach wide and deep in HK blogosphere. Hopefully
> > > this create an environment that pull interested people together and
> > > interact.
>
> > > On 12月14日, 上午4時02分, "紫草" <myosoti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > 要做個聯播其實不難,不過什麼要做才是問題。
>
> > > > On Dec 14, 9:34 am, "edmond...@gmail.com" <edmond...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I think setting up a new blogcast system is not complicated.
> > Actually,
> > > > > I am doing a proof-of-concept right now. 8)
>
> > > > > As for the blog directory, I am yet to see a good open source
> > > > > candidate.
>
> > > > > If we able to kick it off, I guess we can go from there.
>
> > > > > admun
>
> > > > > On 12月13日, 下午1時03分, "ClubEddy -www.clubeddy.com" <m...@clubeddy.com>
> 網絡暴民http://jacky.seezone.net- 隱藏被引用文字 -
>
> - 顯示被引用文字 -

edmo...@gmail.com

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Dec 18, 2007, 2:22:34 PM12/18/07
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Thinking more about "性格和質數". I think of some enhancements to blogcast,
a way to do feed tagging might come in handle, and provide RSS to each
tag. So, for people can keep an eye on a particular area of the
blogcast via RSS. The tagging can be done when bloggers add their feed
to the blogcast and by admin.

cheers,

edmo...@gmail.com

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Dec 18, 2007, 2:33:14 PM12/18/07
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I like the idea of some sot of integration of blog-you and HKBG. I
think there are things can be done as a whole. 8)

I think there is good use for 文章推介/網摘, but there need a way to
automate....

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