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Dear Br. Omar Afzal, Br. Khalid Shaukat, Br. Nawab Ahmed & Brothers & Sisters

Assalaamu Alaikkum wa Rahmathullaahi wa Barakaathu hu

Hope all are fine by the Grace of Almighty Allah.

We, Hijri Committee of India, are closely following the mails exchanged by all and would like to express our displeasure in using indecent words in the mails especially while discussing an Islamic subject.  We are confident that many in this list too will agree with us  not to use indecent words.   We urge those in the list to advise Br. Omar Afzal, Br. Nawab Ahmed not to use indecent words.

Before commenting on the mails of Br. Omar Afzal & Br. Nawab Ahmed, let us update all regarding the correct Hijri date.

Yesterday (Saturday), Urj Oonil Qadeem as described by the Almighty Allah as the last visible phase of the moon for the month of Shawwal 1433 was seen at Fajr on the Eastern sky.

It was about 5 degrees above the Eastern horizon and was very thin (Shawwal being a month of 30 days) and the horns were at 5 & 8 positions.

Today morning (Sunday) too we did "ruyi'ah" of moon but it was not seen, as expected, because today being the Day of Conjunction or the last day of Shawwal.

Tomorrow (Monday) is the first day of Zul Qaidha 1433.

Br. Omar Afzal !  You have asked : "  Dear Hijri Buffs,
    Where in Tauba aayat 36 one finds the words/[hrase that Allah's calendar is lunar and not SOLAR?


This questian of yours clearly illustrates how much you lack in knowledge in Quran, Fiqh and Astronomy.

Have you not read the verse 2:189?  What does it say ? Does  it say that one must follow the Solar calendar or Lunar??

To refresh or replenish your knowledge, we are quoting the verse, once again:

"They ask you (O Muhammad) about the moon phases. Say: "These are signs to mark fixed periods of time for mankind and for the pilgrimage.''

The Asbabun Nuzul of the verse 2:189 clearly establishes that "Ahillah" are the Moon Phases and not the crescent moon seen on the 1st or 2nd day, as misunderstood by the majority of Muslims.  

We are quoting the Asbabun Nuzul for your ready reference: 

Said al-Kalbi: “This was revealed about Mu‘adh ibn Jabal and Tha‘labah 
ibn ‘Anmah, both of whom were of the Ansar. These two men said: ‘O Messenger of Allah! How is it that the moon first looks fine like a thread, then it grows until it becomes full and round, but then it starts to decrease and become fine again as it initially was. It never stays in one form?’ And as a response, Allah revealed this verse” 


Your statement proves how naive you are.  Please study deeply the Fiqh as well as Astronomy before advising Muslims. Otherwise you will continue in propagating the Bid'ah.

Br. Nawab Ahmed ! You have quoted the verse 9:36 and said RIGHTLY  that, In above Decree, Allah swt has ordered His Last Messenger as well as all Muslims to not wrong in the matter of Months Of Allah's Calendar which He made, for the dwellers of the Earth, on the day He created Heavens and the Earth, for good. In other words, the "calendar Allah made on the day He created heavens and the earth" is the only calendar which is acceptable in Allah's Shariy'ah (fi Kitaabillah)." 

You have also RIGHTLY said, Above simple workout proves conclusively that Adam's or Noah's or Muhammad's Calendar is the only calendar which is acceptable in Allah's Shariyah (fi Kitaabillah). And any other calendar is rejected in Islam.
 


We are happy that you have accepted the Calendar of Almighty Allah should be same throughout the world and not different for different regions/countries at different times.

You have also asked us to prove: " Please prove that in light of the Calender-Controlling Ayat 9/36,

 

1) your invented calendar conforms to the Religious Calendar which Allah swt made on the day He created Heavens and Earth, as the only calendar acceptable in His shariyah (fi Kitaabillah), for good.

 

2) Looking at human limitations (((can't go to the places where the moon can be seen or go above clouds to see the moon if it is cloudy as well as would take very very long time to learn astronomical calculations))), Allah swt changed His mind, and allowed humans from the time of Adam to the 20th century AD to adopt the wrong religious calendar and do e-baadah on wrong dates ... until genius Khalid Shaukat and His genius Rufaqaa would find out the way how to catch the "Calendar Fi Kitaabillaah". 

 

 

We would like to inform you that the Calendar which Almighty Allah has  decreed, we repeat, DECREED in His Book is the one which shows same date throughout the world for the same week-day.  It is not the present day calendar followed by you and the majority of Muslims which has  for the same week-day,  different dates  for different countries with man-made boundaries.


Please note that we are following the Sunnah of the Prophet (Sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) of observing the moon throughout.  Our calendar with the Day of Conjunction as the last day of the month confirms with the Calendar decreed by the Almighty Allah in His Book. ALHUMDULILLAH!



According to your calendar dased on sighting the hilaal on the west,  Saudi Arabia, USA etc having Monday for 1st day of a month, Pakistan and India having Tuesday for 1st of the same month and some other countries having Wednesday for the 1st of the same month. Is it not?

 

If that is the case, you have to concede that in the Book of Allah, He, the Almighty has decreed different calendars for different countries.  Such a concept is wrong and not in conformity with the essence of Islam.


 

So, it goes without saying that you and your group having fallen prey to Iblees’s tricks,  are all following a wrong calendar.  Or in other words you are not following the  calendar DECREED by Almighty Allah in His Book on the very day HE, the Almighty created the heavens and the earth, because you have different dates for the same week-day.


 

You have also written that, " Everyone -- including you and your rufqaa -- knows that it was on Ikhtilaaful Mataali' Concept." 

 


You are entirely wrong to state that the Prophet (Sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) practiced Ikthalaaful Mataali.  



Funniest part is that you all claim as  following "Ikhthalaful Mataali", but are all looking to the West, which is contrary to it !!! What a pity !!!


If you do not know its meaning, please refer it to knowledgeable persons and do not follow your own wrong knowledge/inhibitions.


Also please provide evidences (authentic hadeeth) to prove that the Prophet  (Sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) ever went in search of the hilaal on the Western sky in order to start the new month or instructed the Sahaaba (RA) to search the Western sky for the hilaal in order to start the new month.


So long as you cannot produce such a hadeeth, you and the majority of Muslims  are committing  Bid'ah and are following the Jewish tradition of starting the new month after seeing the hilaal on the west and after two persons witnessing such sighting.


We would also like to inform you that the start of the 24-hour period in Islam is at Fajr and not at Magrib.  FYI, starting it from Magrib is also a Jewish tradition.


May Almighty Allah keep all of us in the Right Path.  Aameen


Wa Salaam


 For HIJRI COMMITTEE OF INDIA

S. N. Mohamed Sultan
(Chief Editor)


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On 13 September 2012 20:50, Omar Afzal <omara...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Hijri Buffs,
    Where in Tauba aayat 36 one finds the words/[hrase that Allah's calendar is lunar and not SOLAR?
 
Omar

From: K Shaukat <sha...@moonsighting.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:40 AM
Subject: [moon_sighting] Re: Shaukat's v. Sunnah Calendars/which calendar Ayat 9:36 validates?

 
Attention all,
In the quotes below, additional words have been inserted. This is not the proper way to quote.

Khalid Shaukat

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 2:50 AM, nawab ahmad <nawab...@hotmail.com> wrote:
QUOTE:
Khalid Shaukat says: 
"Now, we are living in a time where Ikhtilaf-al-Matale' concept [i.e. the Sunnah Calendar] does not make sense."
 
According to Shaukat's / His Associates' / FCNA's / ISNA's fiqh,
i) "It was human's own limitations for accepting 
   Ikhtilaf-al-Matale' concept [ie the Sunnah Calendar]."
ii) "Our own weakness or limitations does not change Allah's calendar, ... We should overcome our weakness by either going to places where the moon can be seen or go above clouds to see the moon if cloudy, and we know that the moon is sightable there."
 
UNQUOTE:
All gooodd students [small or big] of the Quran know that Allah swt, after revealing some Ayats on Calendric Affairs, gave His Final Calendric Command in Surah At-Tawbah, in Ayat 36, as under:
  
  إِنَّ عِدَّةَ الشُّهُورِ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ اثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرًا فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ يَوْمَ خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ مِنْهَا أَرْبَعَةٌ حُرُمٌ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الدِّينُ الْقَيِّمُ ۚ فَلَا تَظْلِمُوا فِيهِنَّ أَنْفُسَكُمْ
Verily the count of months to Allah is 12 months [in a year] in the book of [law of] Allah [from] the day He created the Heavens and the Earth; four of which are sacred.  That's the Right Way. So do not wrong yourselves in the matter of those [months of Allah's Calendar] 
 
In above Decree, Allah swt has ordered His Last Messenger as well as all Muslims to not wrong in the matter of Months Of Allah's Calendar which He made, for the dwellers of the Earth, on the day He created Heavens and the Earth, for good. In other words, the "calendar Allah made on the day He created heavens and the earth" is the only calendar which is acceptable in Allah's Shariy'ah (fi Kitaabillah).
 
Now, the question arises: 
Which calendar Allah swt made incumbent upon Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad?
The answer is obvious -- the same "Calendar which Allah made on the Day Of Creation Of Earth & Heavens". Because this is not possible that Allah swt bound Adam to Muhammad a Calendar which was not acceptable in His Shariyah (fi Kitaabillaah).
 
Above simple workout proves conclusively that Adam's or Noah's or Muhammad's Calendar is the only calendar which is acceptable in Allah's Shariyah (fi Kitaabillah). And any other calendar is rejected in Islam.
 
However, let us turn to the great and matchless minds of Shaukat-Plus concerning their take.  





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