different search results api vs serp's

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fsie...@gmail.com

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Jul 4, 2008, 11:33:44 AM7/4/08
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Hello,

Can someone explain the differences in ranking between:

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=anamnesis

http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/services/search/web?v=1.0&rsz=large&q=anamnesis

Do they use different search index sets?

Kind regards,
Francis Siefken - The Netherlands

http://anamnesis.nl.eu.org

jgeerdes [AJAX APIs "Guru"]

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Jul 4, 2008, 2:20:19 PM7/4/08
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I did not notice an appreciable difference between the two in my
testing. Are you trying to use a localized version of google.com? If
that's the case, then there will be significant differences because
the API will always base its search on the primary www.google.com
index.

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Des Moines, IA

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Jul 5, 2008, 3:00:30 AM7/5/08
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On Jul 4, 8:20 pm, "jgeerdes [AJAX APIs \"Guru\"]"
<jgeer...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> I did not notice an appreciable difference between the two in my
> testing.  Are you trying to use a localized version of google.com?  If
> that's the case, then there will be significant differences because
> the API will always base its search on the primarywww.google.com
> index.

Hi Jeremy,

No I try to avoid searching the localized version (which has a
different search result order then the 2 below), making the API call
as representative to google.com serps as possible. Are you saying you
can't reproduce these differences?

JSON urls Search API "anamnesis":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamnesis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_history
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anamnesis
http://www.wcc-coe.org/wcc/assembly/pth1-e.html
http://medical.merriam-webster.com/medical/anamnesis
http://weeklyanamnesis.com/
http://www.jroller.com/darkcycle/
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/anamnesis

Google.com SERP 1 "anamnesis"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamnesis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_history
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anamnesis
http://www.wcc-coe.org/wcc/assembly/pth1-e.html
http://www.jroller.com/darkcycle/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuPCnjcuP_c (universal search result?)
http://cancerweb.ncl.ac.uk/cgi-bin/omd?anamnesis
http://medical.merriam-webster.com/medical/anamnesis
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/22650/anamnesis
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/anamnesis

jgeerdes [AJAX APIs "Guru"]

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Jul 5, 2008, 8:26:53 AM7/5/08
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Hmm. I had not noticed those differences yesterday when I checked.

Unfortunately, as I have no direct access to the backend (and
therefore have no access to the way search results are ranked in
either the API or the Google.com interface), I really don't know what
to say. What I do know is that there have been intermittent reports
of such behavior in the past, but they have generally been few and far
between.

Perhaps Mr. Lisbakken or another dev team member would care to address
the issue.

Ping

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Jul 31, 2008, 2:46:38 PM7/31/08
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Is the origin of the difference known? I'm having the same problem now
for almost every query I tried.

Thanks,
Ping

On Jul 5, 5:26 am, "jgeerdes [AJAX APIs \"Guru\"]"
<jgeer...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> Hmm. I had not noticed those differences yesterday when I checked.
>
> Unfortunately, as I have no direct access to the backend (and
> therefore have no access to the way search results are ranked in
> either the API or the Google.com interface), I really don't know what
> to say. What I do know is that there have been intermittent reports
> of such behavior in the past, but they have generally been few and far
> between.
>
> Perhaps Mr. Lisbakken or another dev team member would care to address
> the issue.
>
> Jeremy R. Geerdes
> Effective website design & development
> Des Moines, IA
>
> For more information or a project quote:http://jgeerdes.home.mchsi.com
> jgeer...@mchsi.com

Ping

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Jul 31, 2008, 2:29:44 PM7/31/08
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Is the origin of the difference understood now? I compared several
queries ("paris hilton", "iphone 3G", etc) and none of them give
identical results.

By the way, SERP sometimes blend in news/video/blog results. Would
they appear in the results returned from google.search.WebSearch()?

Thanks,
Ping

On Jul 5, 5:26 am, "jgeerdes [AJAX APIs \"Guru\"]"
<jgeer...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> Hmm. I had not noticed those differences yesterday when I checked.
>
> Unfortunately, as I have no direct access to the backend (and
> therefore have no access to the way search results are ranked in
> either the API or the Google.com interface), I really don't know what
> to say. What I do know is that there have been intermittent reports
> of such behavior in the past, but they have generally been few and far
> between.
>
> Perhaps Mr. Lisbakken or another dev team member would care to address
> the issue.
>
> Jeremy R. Geerdes
> Effective website design & development
> Des Moines, IA
>
> For more information or a project quote:http://jgeerdes.home.mchsi.com
> jgeer...@mchsi.com

jgeerdes [AJAX APIs "Guru"]

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Jul 31, 2008, 3:32:43 PM7/31/08
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I can't speak for the dev team, so I won't address whether or not the
issue is understood, and I haven't paid all that much attention to
know if it's been fixed or not. However, re: getting news, video, and
blog, etc., results mixed in with web results, the answer is no.
There are separate searchers for local, news, images, videos, and
blog. You can put all of the searchers in the same control, but the
results won't be intermixed.

Jeremy R. Geerdes
Effective website design & development
Des Moines, IA

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