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rde...@gmail.com

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Nov 7, 2005, 12:33:25 PM11/7/05
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Wouldn't it be more efficient and most convenient for users if the
items hidden in the "More Action" pull down menu are.. well,.. NOT
hidden? especially the "Move to Trash" item, as that IS by far the
MOST used button in Gmail.

Currently in GMAIL, deleting (or moving to trash) an email is a 2 step
process. You click the pull down menu then you delete. This process
can easily be cut in half just by providing a VISIBLE delete button
just like in any other email systems out there.

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rdeguz1
rde...@gmail.com

Shane

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Nov 7, 2005, 1:51:32 PM11/7/05
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Google don't want GMail users deleting mail, that's why they offer over
2GBs of storage for each account, they want you to archive all of your
old mails. I assume the reasoning behind this is that they want to use
your archived mail to help build up a user profile that can be more
accurately targetted by ads.

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Marc Willemsen

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Nov 7, 2005, 2:00:56 PM11/7/05
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I agree.
 
I think that the thought behind this is that Google says that you never have to delete a mail because you've got a 2.5 GB big mailbox. I like to clean up the mess now and then. Maybe because I'm used to do so.
 
Marc.

 

Bryon Sommers

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Nov 7, 2005, 3:25:32 PM11/7/05
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I understand that Google doesn’t want us to delete emails, and frankly I rarely ever delete any mail.  But the point is that they need to make it easier for the times when you DO have to delete a message.  For example, I get weekly offers from Newegg.com to buy this or that, but I always delete that email because I have no need to ever look at that message again.  Regardless of how much storage I have, I will always delete those types of messages.    

 

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Fanis Hatzidakis

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Nov 7, 2005, 3:34:39 PM11/7/05
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Shane, you neatly summarized dozens of threads that have discussed
this topic over the last year and a half.

For the rest that *really* want a single-click delete option:
If you're familiar with the Firefox browser (
http://www.getfirefox.com ) , and the Greasemonkey extension for it (
http://greaseblog.blogspot.com ), there is a userscript (
http://userscripts.org ) that will add a Delete button to the Gmail
interface.

Keep in mind that Gmail generally doesn't condone such scripts, as
they can produce unwelcome behaviour (such as querying the server way
too often).

Fanis

The Doctor

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Nov 7, 2005, 3:59:23 PM11/7/05
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I have a few like that, that I also like to permenantly delete.
Currently I just delete it to trash, and hope that one day the
statement "messages that have been in Trash more than 30 days will be
automatically deleted" at the top of my trash will prove true (I have
stuff older than 30 days in it right now).

I wouldn't even mind it still being there longer if it didn't still
count against my utilization (I'm only at 9% so I'm in no danger of
filling, but it's the principle of the thing). I understand the
arguement some have made that trash messages are still part of the
conversation, but my response is "I trashed it cause it doesn't NEED to
be part of a conversation".

Basically, I don't let the mail in my trash bother me too often, and
when it does, I spring-clean it. But I understand there are people
much closer to complete utilization than I, which are in more need of
the 30-day option working.

Chimmer

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Nov 7, 2005, 6:43:04 PM11/7/05
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By your own admission, you RARELY delete any email. So, on those rare
occasions when you do delete an email, are you saying that 2 clicks is
too complicated for you? Let's see...we are talking about an extra
second of time (if that?)

D Knight

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Nov 8, 2005, 10:42:28 AM11/8/05
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You are correct that Google's philosophy is to archive mail rather than
deleting it. At first I didn't understand this, but I've changed my
e-mail habits and it makes a lot of sense to me now. Why delete any
e-mails unless you are running out of space? The way I see it, you'll
never regret not deleting a message, but you might regret deleting it.

It reminds me of something I read in Joel Spolsky's
(http://www.joelonsoftware.com/) book the other day. He writes about
how some user interface features make users do unnecessary things. He
uses the Recycle Bin as an example. The fact that Microsoft shows the
recycle bin as full and cluttered makes most users empty it as soon as
it is full. This defeats the whole point of having a recycle bin -
store deleted files so they can be recovered. I think Googles
philosophy is a good one, but it's different than most people's e-mail
habits.

If you really want this feature, tell Google! Check the box under
"Helpful Additions" on their suggest a feature page.
https://services.google.com/inquiry/gmail_suggest/

rde...@gmail.com

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Nov 12, 2005, 1:18:07 PM11/12/05
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Thanks for your input to this issue.
I dont think google hid the "move to trash" because "we never have to
delete an email message ever again".
If this is so, then we should not even have that option in the first
place.
I think it's a design/function issue. I prefer and want my delete
button visible.

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