Re: Idol Worshipping and Animal sacrifice RE: Predicting crime with technology

25 views

Skip to first unread message

dans...@gmail.com

unread,

Aug 21, 2011, 10:16:41 AM8/21/11

to Prof Nana Darko Ofori II (Richard Nti Asare), GLU Forum, GHANA Leadership Forum, Third force-UMC, Atty George Asomaning,Esq.

Nana,

Thanks.
I think the Attorney General's office and BNI together, given the budget we the taxpayers pay them, including housing and car allowances, should wiled more power and fear than Antoa Nyama, Akonodi, and all our Fetish gods combined without spilling one drop of chicken blood!
Failing that I think we should dissolve them and subcontract the job to outsiders!! After all foreigners are building our roads, houses to live in, security houses, Presidential palaces and offices, bridges, and feeding our school children! Do I lie! They even help us with $1.2 billion per year average to balance our budget,, err,, I mean our laundry list of expenditures which we call Budget!
What difference does it make it they help us arrest our criminals!!!

Nana, Nkrumah led the fight to obtain our independence and put discipline in the system or continued the ones set up by the British colonialist. The opposition undermined him and said it was too much and in 9 years he was gone! They let major construction works in process abandoned for decades! Factories were closed down, Conference center was abandoned for 40 years and as one Deputy Minister told me, since 2001 they have tried to rehabilitate Job 600 and use as office for the MPs, and it's not completed!
Nana, how long would it take in Wyoming to rehabilitate or build an office complex for say 238 MPs and their staff?
Acheampong tried, but did not have a clue where money comes from!
Rawlings tried but has to date no clue how a nation generates capital, revenue, and jobs, and to watch his subordinates from stealing public funds or enriching themselves by awarding monopoly contracts, or his wife from taking lucrative gifts from rich friends.
Ethics means nothing and the Ghanaian does not want to be disciplined! President Kufuor accepted it as it is, and President Mills also seem to have accepted it -the black man (in Ghana) cannot of his own provide reliable supply of water, modern sewage and sanitation, electricity, communication systems, roads and highways!!!
It makes me wonder what answer to give my late grandfather who asked:
What kind of people are we?
Are we animals?

Let anybody take a poll if the Ghanaian today would surrender our Independence and Society's Management to Foreigners. Try and take a survey! I interviewed only a small sample size of people in business in the Accra/Tema metro area for my Qualitative studies in 2005/2006 and asking how people felt about their leaders, expectations, perception of them, and job performance. Nana, it will shock you! Over 70% are dissatisfied or highly dissatisfied with the leadership performance in the delivery of basic needs such as water, electricity, sanitation and communication services (with the latter being less so).
It appears nobody cares about the needs of the very people who constitute the nation of Ghana. To date we do what Foreigners expect of us, facilitate loans preferentially for them, and prefer to do business with them rather than our own, unless major kickbacks are a factor. When I emailed a copy of the summary and recommendations to Kwame Pianim, a man we were on email communication with in 2001-2003, he never bothered to reply. Two or three calls, and even a trip to his office in 2007 and I gave up on him! Tweaaa! Ghanaians! The best we have may not be enough as Nixon's White House Chief of staff once said.
It is sad when the only meaningful and academically acceptable economic report on our nation is delivered by a European Intelligence Unit as Kwabena posted yesterday showing Economic performance, and sadly not even mentioning our employment situation! What do they care if we employ our people or not!!
Nonsense!!! Nkwaseas3m kwa!! As my late grandfather Kwame Opong would say!! Those who opposed Nkrumah have won! They have surrendered our independence! I feel sad!

However, not to give up! Its going to be a nice Sunny day today here as yesterday.
Have a nice Sunday and stay in touch.

K. Danso

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From: Nana Darko Ofori II <nanadar...@yahoo.com>

Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 01:05:51 -0700 (PDT)

To: Kwaku A. Danso<dans...@gmail.com>; glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com<glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com>

ReplyTo: Nana Darko Ofori II <nanadar...@yahoo.com>

Cc: George Asomaning Esq.<georgea...@aol.com>

Subject: Re: Idol Worshipping and Animal sacrifice RE: Predicting crime with technology

Kwaku, thank you for ccing me. Food for thought: How can we employ some of our traditional practices to stem the spate of corrupt practices within the circles of our elected officials?

May sound ridiculous but may work: Let them invoke the spirits of antoa nyamaa and the other powerful dieties at their swearing in ceremonies.Could it be an act of using psychology and superstition to correct a national anomaly?

By the way, the Americans " worship" their ancestors by casting their heads in stone mountains. I know this because I lived close to one of such important monuments.

Cheers,

Nana

From: Kwaku A. Danso <dans...@gmail.com>
To: glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com
Cc: George Asomaning Esq. <georgea...@aol.com>; 'Nana Darko Ofori II' <nanadar...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:36 PM
Subject: RE: Idol Worshipping and Animal sacrifice RE: Predicting crime with technology

Nana,

PLEASE don’t get me wrong.

I am at the point in my life where I should be doing the writing instead of reading others writings. I will still be reading others ideas, tough. In fact I am amazed at the impact of a 4 page letter I wrote and posted on Obama’s Website to President Obama during the Debt Ceiling crisis is having in American thinking right now. I also mailed letters to my California Senators and Congressmen and a couple of others Joe Lieberman and another).

1. Nobody in public debates and during the impasse mentioned the impact of the wars on our Economy before;

2. Nobody mentioned the fact that the rich does not want to pay more taxes but the large chunk of the money is going not to the poor but to support wars, which is supported by the rich;

3. Nobody mentioned before that the children of the poor and middle class are the ones who are dying for their country and when they are laid off from work or come back from war, whether it was right for them to live and die poor with very little Social Security income.

Nana, this is the first time I am getting involved in American political dialogue, since they do we well that I usually could pass the buck and simply enjoy the benefits. It is being debated at the very high level and Warren Buffet of all people even make a comment about sending the children of the poor to war when the rich like him cannot pay more! Gosh! There is a reason America has done so well,, and let some of us who still live here help make it even better.

POINT I am making, Nana, is that I don’t and I am not ready to read some white man’s ideas for my country unless and until I see what will help us develop like others have done and for our own benefits and not discounting all our culture and traditions. For example, the idea of helping our nephews is a very good culture, including even an open adoption system where you take care of them and legally they are not your children; but the idea of women having children and assuming the father of the child is not important because the uncle will take care of the children is a stupid and silly custom that has to change!

OUR FETISH system seem to be tied to the ANCESTRAL “Worship” – and we must separate them. The Fetish is a deceptive con game of capitalizing on undocumented, unproven superstition, mixed with the art of healing using herbs which could be developed further if we are scientific. There is nothing wrong with remembering the Ancestors, and so far as we are not praying to them it is not a WORSHIP. After all American mention Thomas Jefferson everyday but they never pour blood on any stone to remember him and they never invoke the spirit of Jefferson to curse another person or nation.

The difference between EVIL and GOOD is what distinguishes GOOD RELIGION and DEVIL WORSHIP.

If as you said, You

“do not worship idols, We do not invoke curses, We do not worship our predecessors.
We do not invoke our predecessors; We do not invoke the powers of other that we do not know”.

Then it is hard for anybody to characterize it as linked to Traditional Fetish worship of blood over stone worship.

EVIL – comes in exploitation of many poor in nations like Haiti and these days in Ghana, where many collect money and profess to pray for people, educated people, for childbirth, to get money, to win elections, to get a Visa to go overseas! I have been to a major Church in Ghana where these were the major topics for prayers.

Nonsense!! Why can’t these people pray in their privacy? Do they need to pay somebody to pray for them?

PASTORS - like Dr. Mensah Otabil and Dr. Bishop Agyen-Asare (Word Miracle) try to include some advice on industriousness, human behavior, attitudes, etc. which is fine. In one of the churches they passed the collection plate 3 times! I understand in some of the Churches they even insult people if you don’t deposit more money.

MODERN day –chieftaincy is part of traditional leadership. Can we modernize it and merge it with the modern day system? Can you have influence on the government in anyway? If chiefs are custodians of the land, is there any reason there is no system where if they are custodians, the Chiefs have defined responsibilities in the development and raising the LIVING CONDITIONS of their people, are paid, an accounting system is set up, and they become part of the GOVENRING CITY or TOWN COUNCIL?

I am trying to find modernized way of making our system work and not be a simple tradition that is a dinosaur. Now that the opposition to independence fight is over, can the Ghana House of Chiefs think on this issue, and demand from the President a constitutional change to have elected TOWN /CITY council and leader called Mayor or Chief Executive, and the Chief act as Co-Chairman, and hire Engineers and City Manager and Planners, etc to develop the towns for all, with the GOAL of Improving the Living conditions of the people.

Dr. Kwaku A. Danso (At Livermore, California, USA)

Lic. Real Estate Broker & Financier

East Legon-Accra, Ghana & Livermore, California, USA

President - Ghana Leadership Union (NGO), Moderator-GLU and GLF Forums.

http://groups.google.com/group/glu-ghana-leadership-forum?hl=en?hl=en

Publisher - Global Express Communications - www.globalexpressonline.com

For Best Engineered, Managed, and Quality-built and most competitively-priced homes in Ghana, see:

Amtek-Global Construction & Investments at: http://www.amtekglobal.com/

From: glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com [mailto:glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kyei Amponsah
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 1:49 PM
To: glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Idol Worshipping and Animal sacrifice RE: Predicting crime with technology

Hello Kwaku:

Thank you very much for your elucidation on this subject matter.

All that I can tell you is that the acts performed that form part of the rituals I mentioned do not involve a sacrifice. They do not involve pouring blood onto a stone. A lot of the time we are mis-d irected by the descriptions of others about some of our customary practices.

I myself had my doubts about rituals that I had heard about before becoming a Chief. I was very wary of what I had heard described.
It was not until I became a Chief and then began to sit down with the old Ahenfie attendants and inquired from them as to what exactly they did and what the significance was (to them) of what they did that I realised the extent to which I had been mis-informed about these rituals.

As far as my Oman is concerned:

We do not worship idols.
We do not invoke curses.
We do not worship our predecessors.
We do not invoke our predecessors.
We do not invoke the powers of other that we do not know.

Kwaku. My uncle whom I succeeded was a Catholic. He was on the stool for 48 years. From 1948 till 1996.
He was a very strong Catholic. He believed in the bilble and especially in his psalms. He did not play with his psalms.

But we venerate our predecessors. We recognise them for the good that they did . And we hold them in esteem and mention them evey 40 days when ther is an Akwasidae or an Awukudae.

A lot of times we tend to accept blindly the description and labels of learned but ignorant European academics who have written about our culture as the truth.
Indeed some of them even wrote that drumming was a pagan ritual and as such was evil in and of itself. Hmmmm. To the extent that some of us Africans, Ghanaian's for that matter have bought wholesale into this sort of mindset and work even more aggressively than the Europeans to discredit our own culture.

A classic example is what prevails today in marriage ceremonies in Ghana; where we have suppressed our traditional marriage (Awardie) ceremony in favour of an European cultral practice that has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity. ??????????

Kwaku I would want to recommend to you a book by the author Wade Davis, called the Serpent and the Rainbow. This help to demystify what hitherto was thought to be a demonic practice in Haiti.

Regards.

On 20 August 2011 18:43, Kwaku A. Danso <dans...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nana,

You said below:

“The ritual/s have an uncanny similarity to old testament animal sacrifices of the Jews of antiquity.”

Playing the part of a genius is fine with me. Life is a stage we all play a part, as Shakespeare or some other English writer /poet once said.

ANIMAL SACRIFICE – similar to what the Jews did in the old testament.

In the old Testament, Moses got the new Laws from the mountains and directly from the one and only God we cannot see but feel in our spirit, and among the laws or Commandments of God he made were:

THOU SHALT NOT WORSHIP IDOLS.

Nana, I know some of the Chiefs are Christians, and still do this blood over stone sacrifice. Do you think that conflicts with the new post Moses Ten commandments?

I have been trying to find out the root cause of our underdevelopment, and why the same Science and money we know of does not seem to work in places like Haiti and now we see in Ghana. The same human beings brought to American can function well but in Ghana they fall short.

We are still urinating in open gutters, dumping human feces and the mosquitoes are killing s but we don’t seem to be able to stop some silly acts we do. Moneys given to us don’t seem to work. Gilbert says it is because our leaders or people in government are greedy, selfish, wicked, etc. We don’t see able to do much about it.

A book by Derek Prince illuminates a lot of things for me now, on many things that I knew before but could not put my hands on. I am convinced there is some kind of curse associated with certain behavior and acts of humans in any society. Not to list all of them but Idol worshipping is one of them, which is also listed in the Bible as against the ten commandments.

Others include curses spoken with the mouth by parents /teachers, adults over children, etc and Pastors over congregations. In other words one can cause a curse over others or over one’s self and create a barrier to one’s progress in life in many ways.

There are many quotations from the bible to illustrate curses and blessings, and how to get out of curses.

At the same time the New Testament and powers of Jesus the Christ also shows how such curses can be overcome, with the powers of light over darkness. It makes logical sense to me.

Short of a few who believe in the random spontaneous creation theory, there is no doubt in anybody’s mind who has grown up in most Ghana or even today in the West that there is some kind of belief in some kind of God and there is a Devil also. It is how we worship that God or Allah that seems to differ.

Nana, I see nothing wrong in remembering our great grandfathers and honoring their name. If we worship them, invoke their powers, and the powers of others we don’t even know, there is a potential to invoke evil spirits are not necessarily good, and hence may be engaging in IDOL WORSHPPING. Do I lie?

Remember all these have powers, and the Voodoo worship in Haiti also have powers to do certain things. I think most of such powers are used for self-gain, enriching the people who invoke them, destroying others, etc.

You know these happen in our society, now called sakawa. Many of the pastors around use the name of God but are actually using idol worshipping.

The characteristics of good and evil are known and common throughout the world. I don’t know any society where murder is sanctioned, or theft, or taking other people’s wives or doing what we call wicked things are considered good moral and ethical things.

What are your thoughts on this?

Certain things, too many things we do in Ghana defy logic and common sense.

It really bothers me that we can take a loan for $503 million to build water systems, the work does not get done, the water is not flowing, the money is gone, and nobody is held responsible, and we go for another loan! Does that make sense to anybody? And the President says let’s pray to God!

Wherever evil forces are allowed to rule the day, unexplainable things happen and the society can never develop as a viable part of the human race until such idol worshipping, sorcery, witchcraft, are eliminated. Remember Europeans had their share of this nonsense also.

Nana, George Adu, Prof. Mike, KDD, Azar, Ekow, Kwame N., NanaYaw, folks,

What do you think?

I don’t have all the answers to live – my grandfather for sure did not create the world.

What are your thoughts?

Dr. Kwaku A. Danso (At Livermore, California, USA)

Lic. Real Estate Broker & Financier

East Legon-Accra, Ghana & Livermore, California, USA

President - Ghana Leadership Union (NGO), Moderator-GLU and GLF Forums.

http://groups.google.com/group/glu-ghana-leadership-forum?hl=en?hl=en

For Best Engineered, Managed, and Quality-built and most competitively-priced homes in Ghana, see:

Amtek-Global Construction & Investments at: http://www.amtekglobal.com/

From: glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com [mailto:glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kyei Amponsah
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:55 AM
To: glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Predicting crime with technology

Hello Kwaku:

I have never been a genius. I only pretended to be one.

As for the personal question. I personally am not obligated to cut any neck of any animal.

However twice a year, a sheep is slaughtered and the blood is used in addition with some other items (mentioned by Rattray, Bishop Akwasi Sarpong) to blacken the Stools and some is also used in a mixture of certain herbs including hyssop, alcohol and certain other ingredients as a "PURIFICANT" to purify the Ahenfie, Nananom, the Ahenkwaa and other towns folk who may show an interest.

The carcass of the sheep is divided amongst Nananom and the Ahenkwaa; with everybody getting a part and portion according to his ranking in the pecking order. It is an elaborate and fascinating process.

The ritual/s have an uncanny similarity to old testament animal sacrifices of the Jews of antiquity.

With regards to my internet service. I am still using Tigo's C1.45 a day all you can use service. The advertised baud/bit rate is 921kb/s. However the best i have seen on a consistent basis is 12kb/s and that will not happen for more than 15mins at a time. I suspect that the contention ratio must be pretty hing on this pipe. very likely around 300:1. Way above the typical 20:1 you get on a broadband pipe stateside.

But what can I say, I make do with what I have.

On 20 August 2011 17:09, Kwaku A. Danso <dans...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nana,

God to know you are doing well.

Has returning to live in rural Ghana dimmed your genius brains?

Or has being a Chief hurt your ability to accomplish any tasks for your people under the current dictatorial system?

Nana, a personal question – by your chieftaincy rites, are you obligated to cut the neck of some chicken and put the blood on a stone?

BTW, why is your Internet now working everyday and every hour as you need it?

See the IMPROVING THE LIVING CONDITIONS of people as I talk about.

We should use that basis to measure the every elected Leader from now on, and forget about GDP /GNP nonsense they talk about sitting in their offices cooking numbers! If you award one major contract to an oil company, you can use that to boost the GNP for the year, but how much does that boost the employment rate or reduce the unemployment rate? In Ghana the crooked politicians do’t even bother to tell you the unemployment rate – which is far more than 50%. The College graduate unemployment rate measured by one Professor in a 2006-2008 study was 49% College graduate without jobs! Does any government want to report this? No way!

Thanks for the explanation and I will read the link.

Cheers,

K. Danso

From: glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com [mailto:glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kyei Amponsah
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:08 AM

To: glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Predicting crime with technology

Hello Kwkau:

I am good. I am on the Forum single day that my internet connection works. I observe mostly. I have been following all the goings and comings and seen how the forum has grown. Sooner than later you will have to "acquire" an assistant to help you run the Forum.

But here is a link to minority report.In its most recent appearance it was a film (2002) about a process called PreCrime.

Here is a link below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29

Have fun.

On 19 August 2011 05:36, Kwaku A. Danso <dans...@gmail.com> wrote:

Nana,

Long time no hear.

How are you?

What is Minority Report? Is that the name of the program? I just heard it and it’s some new program they are testing and using live that shows on a screen locations grid of the city and where crimes of certain types are predicted to occur, based on attested simulation like they use to predict the weather. In other words there are certain identified scientific parameters like for weather one may have temperature, pressure, wind speed, altitude, and use to predict rainfall tomorrow after 10am.

Very interesting.

Too advanced for Ghana to even dram of for now.

Cheers,

K. Danso

From: glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com [mailto:glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kyei Amponsah
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:53 PM
To: glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Predicting crime with technology

Kwkau:

This sounds like Minority Report.

On 19 August 2011 00:52, <dans...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, police in Santa Cruz, California are now using a computerized system that allows them to be able to predict crimes, what kinds and location and time.
By being present in the locale, they have been able to prevent crimes, arrested people and in the last year reduced crime rate 27%.
Who said Science was dead in America!
Keep watching how this era will be forgotten and behind us soon as technology meets venture capital again!

K. Danso.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

--
Debate and dialogue to make leadership in Ghana more effective and responsive to human needs and contribute to a better world. A creation of Dr.K.Danso
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "GLU-Ghana Leadership Forum" group.
To post to this group, send email to
glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
glu-ghana-leadershi...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/glu-ghana-leadership-forum?hl=en?hl=en

--
K. Kyei Amponsah

Debate and dialogue to make leadership in Ghana more effective and responsive to human needs and contribute to a better world. A creation of Dr.K.Danso
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "GLU-Ghana Leadership Forum" group.
To post to this group, send email to
glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
glu-ghana-leadershi...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/glu-ghana-leadership-forum?hl=en?hl=en

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3843 - Release Date: 08/18/11

--
K. Kyei Amponsah

--
Debate and dialogue to make leadership in Ghana more effective and responsive to human needs and contribute to a better world. A creation of Dr.K.Danso
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Groups "GLU-Ghana Leadership Forum" group.
To post to this group, send email to
glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
glu-ghana-leadershi...@googlegroups.com
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/glu-ghana-leadership-forum?hl=en?hl=en

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3845 - Release Date: 08/19/11

--
K. Kyei Amponsah

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3846 - Release Date: 08/20/11

--
K. Kyei Amponsah

No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3846 - Release Date: 08/20/11

George Asomaning

unread,

Aug 22, 2011, 5:55:42 AM8/22/11

to dans...@gmail.com, nanadar...@yahoo.com, glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com, GhanaLeade...@googlegroups.com, the-third-...@googlegroups.com

Nana,

I am surprised at your mention of government officials invoking the spirit of antoa to stem corruption, unless it was a tongue in cheek comment. What is the point of all our education if this is the best we can advocate? We must as well throw away the books and put on the "batakari" and hold high the "bodua" - long reign Kwaku Bronsam and his cohorts.

Nana, honestly, Chieftaincy and Traditional Religion have never been the champion of development, in Ghana or any where else. They have never been the driver or focus for enlightenment, they have never been the torchbearers of our civilization. They have rather been reactionary forces that have held us back in no small measures. They have been the custodians of privilege rather than equality and egalitarianism. Nana Kyei's comment on how meat for example is distributed at Akwasidae according to rank and perking order is a point well noted. Left to this institution alone, a great number of our folks will still be in chains, sold as slaves - "donko" and some physically and socially lying beneath the royals and their minions according to the perking order and being used as door mats. Sometimes, I yearn for the sword of Nii Lantey Okunka-Bannerman, to slash this institution and shape it up wiith his pen, but unlike Nii, I believe this institution can still be modernized - not because I believe in it, for for the sake of expediency as dismantling it could cause a social upheaval, especially among the Akans. We can do this if we strip it of all the superstition, libation pouring, and mysticism attached to it. But somehow, I am doubtful this may well be wishful thinking especially when folks like you and Nana Kyei, our sure hope see no eveil with it as it stands and rather defend in in toto.

It's time Chiefs like you and Nana Kyei really tackle this institution, especially in its regard to our under development, its role in slavery and the bastion for all reactionary forces rather than facilely or jokingly advocating that our political leaders invoke the spirits to antoa. What has antoa done for us? Has he brought us education, healthcare, roads, computers etc?, Yes, antoa may have led us in the dark ages - in the age when the one eyed led the blind, but in this era of light, what relevance and blessing has antoa brought to us?

Food for thought, Nana.

Kwaku A. Danso

unread,

Aug 22, 2011, 11:17:46 AM8/22/11

to George Asomaning, nanadar...@yahoo.com, glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com, GhanaLeade...@googlegroups.com, the-third-...@googlegroups.com

Osofo Lawyer George,

Thank you for this inspirational response today. Trust me Nana Ofori was only saying what he said in tongue and cheek, as you put it. He and his wife visited us in our house about a month ago and we were all eating at the dining table – (same one I am writing on when my wife gives me the permission since the big TV is direct opposite me) when this subject was also being discussed. I never told him, but was sincerely shocked to find that Nana is a true believing Christian at heart. He gave some examples of the fetish he has encountered who wanted to demonstrate their fetish non-scientific powers of the “devil-power”. Same things they do in Haiti (anybody read books by Dennis Wheatley about Voodoo and Devil worshipping in Haiti?).

It’s only recently I have been totally convinced academically by author Derek Prince that all these things are spelled out in the Bible!!! My Gosh!! It is very difficult for an academic to dismiss the Bible,, especially to replace it with oral traditions and sayings of our fetish people who could not even put anything down in writing for us as guidelines if they are of equal merit.

Nana Ofori Darko seems to be a pragmatic Lawyer – he was a Law Professor who took his early retirement from U of Wyoming and now doing business in Ghana. Coincidentally, his (American) wife is also a Lawyer, like you. In fact I remember we were discussing the Dominique Strauss-Kahn incidence of forced rape or consensual sex turned ugly, and Nana described in lawyer-terms what he would do if he was hired to represent DSK. He said he would find all about the woman, going all the way to Guinea, and suspected the woman was trying to squeeze some money from the man after having sex with him. I had no clue,, but then lo and behold, that has happened that the woman is found to be a liar who may be simply scheming! Gosh!! Nana, you could have made a cool $1.5 million as defense attorney for DSK in this strange money-talk America here, if you had been close to the action and been given the case. The woman is said to be negotiating now and the case may be dropped! A win-win where the woman may end up with say $500,000 and the man goes free with his freedom and whatever is left of his reputation. Big fool DSK would lose perhaps a total of $6 million by the time the nightmare is over – for a lousy sex!!!! Kwaseaaaa!!

On the other issues, I can’t agree with you more about the need to reform chieftaincy, take away the mysticism and false gods, unscientific doctrinaire and rules, blood-on-stone nonsense, and make it part of our existing management of our districts and towns. BTW when I say nonsense, I found out in Abetifi last time in 2004 when I had a first family meeting with the people we call “elders” in the family, that in our culture, if you reach my age, and you are a man of some means (and you know what the Akans mean by that), you can actually change the rules. It is amazing that I explained to the so-called elders the need to bring the women of the house to the meeting, my aunts (80-90 year old who stay in the house), and they agreed. I said we should open an account and put money in for the kids behind and they agreed. This is a typical example they say “money talks”.

Folks, I am fully convinced that if we who are blessed with the Western education and are men and women of means take up the leadership, we can change our communities right from the ground up! I have found absolutely 100% success rate on any ideas I have offered in Ghana to reform or do the right things among the people,,,, except within the greedy and selfish government circles! I have stopped people from burning their trash openly! – and nobody ever questioned who I am in terms of my post or right to demand that they stop. It is an amazing malleable society indeed waiting for leadership!! I itch and hurt not being able to be in Ghana full time. I still pray to God it is not too late for me to help my people. Experience in life among the successful is very key to human success in other places!

However, let the selfish and greedy elected officials wait!!! Their time is coming!! I can guarantee them that much one day if they don’t provide the needed services and needs of their people as I keep mentioning, our society could erupt out of nowhere as the middle East and North African nations are doing!!

The best way forward is for the chiefs, if they want their institutions to remain intact, to negotiate with the government to amend the constitution and allow for local town and district and regional elections to elect their own leaders, and the Chiefs being part of the leadership committee or Council, and then learn the modern aspects of democratic management of collecting taxes, designing a budget (not a list of needs and expenses!!) and managing their own affairs as done under a true democracy.

Dr. Kwaku A. Danso (At Livermore, California, USA)

Lic. Real Estate Broker & Financier

East Legon-Accra, Ghana & Livermore, California, USA

President - Ghana Leadership Union (NGO), Moderator-GLU and GLF Forums.

http://groups.google.com/group/glu-ghana-leadership-forum?hl=en?hl=en

For Best Engineered, Managed, and Quality-built and most competitively-priced homes in Ghana, see:

Amtek-Global Construction & Investments at: http://www.amtekglobal.com/

Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3849 - Release Date: 08/21/11

Kwaku A. Danso

unread,

Aug 22, 2011, 5:59:00 PM8/22/11

to Nana Darko Ofori II, George Asomaning, glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com, GhanaLeade...@googlegroups.com, the-third-...@googlegroups.com

Nana,

I beg ooo!

I can’t eat crude oil and I don’t own a refinery if you gave me say 5 barrels.

I would love for some form of government to have the oil refined, account for the money, build the roads for all of us and deliver other services I need.

If the people in government are corrupt, greedy,, selfish, thieves, I say let’s round them up under the rule of laws we have now and put them in prison. Can we do that?

K. Danso

From: Nana Darko Ofori II [mailto:nanadar...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:35 PM
To: Kwaku A. Danso; 'George Asomaning'; glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com; GhanaLeade...@googlegroups.com; the-third-...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Idol Worshipping and Animal sacrifice RE: Predicting crime with technology

Thank you Kwaku for all your kind comments. I would not have sent a response to Georges if I had read yours. One of these days, all our efforts will definitely bear positive fruits. When the grabbing and robbing are over, the so called leaders of our dear nation Ghana, will learn to be serious with governing. They will see the quest for political power as a means to execute a particular political ideology and not as a means to enrich one's pockets. Hopefully, by the time we get to that state, there will still be enough resources let over after their thievery to support the serious programs.

Food for thought: Lets share our crude oil amongst the people barrel by barrel. Each individual Ghanaian will decide on what to do with his or her barrels of oil.

May God continue to bless our motherland Ghana.

Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3850 - Release Date: 08/22/11

George Asomaning

unread,

Aug 23, 2011, 5:12:28 AM8/23/11

to nanadar...@yahoo.com, dans...@gmail.com, glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com, GhanaLeade...@googlegroups.com, the-third-...@googlegroups.com

Nana,

Thanks for your gracious response, and I like many of us look forward to your address on Chieftaincy soon.

Regards

-----Original Message-----
From: Nana Darko Ofori II <nanadar...@yahoo.com>
To: George Asomaning <georgea...@aol.com>; dansojfk <dans...@gmail.com>; glu-ghana-leadership-forum <glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com>; GhanaLeadershipForum <GhanaLeade...@googlegroups.com>; the-third-force-ghana <the-third-...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:53
Subject: Re: Idol Worshipping and Animal sacrifice RE: Predicting crime with technology

George,

Thank you for your input. It is intellectual sound in my opinion to provoke the thought process to its extreme end. Thus the antoa nyamaa comment. Don't worry brother, I am a Roman Catholic born and bred. I am a product of the great school on the gulf of Guinea, St. Augustine's College. George, I will adress the Chieftaincy issues raised by you sometime soon.

Meanwhile, stay well my fellow proud Ghanaian.

Nana

From: George Asomaning <georgea...@aol.com>

To: dans...@gmail.com; nanadar...@yahoo.com; glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com; GhanaLeade...@googlegroups.com; the-third-...@googlegroups.com