Introduction: Hi from Minnesota

[Keoeeit]

Interesting group here. A friend told me about it and thought I'd join.
Presently living in east-central Minnesota (but hoping to move to some
new location in the future). Been doing some local lakes for bass and
panfish this summer.

I've been fishing most my life, so I hope I can provide some tips or
help for others when able.

Just learning how to fly-fish (without much finesse to my technique
yet). So I might have some questions about that.

Anyway, just wanted to say "Hi!" for now!

(Thanks for creating this group. It's difficult to run across other men
that just want to do a common interest together without all the
trappings that usually go with their ulterior-motives.)

[Simon Bao]

I want to express some concerns about this "Gay
Fishing Group", and I hope that the individual(s) who
established this group will take those concerns
seriously and respond.

It turns out that this "Group" bears absolutely no
similarity to the widely used and familiar Yahoo
Groups. Google "Groups" are nothing more than
bare-bones, early 1990s Usenet technology.

Meaning, this Gay Fishing Group will never have a
homepage with sections for archived messages, photos,
other files, lists of other members, a chat facility,
etc. It means there's no truly effective way to
moderate, suspend, or ban a disruptive person. It
means no one will ever come across this group while
searching Yahoo Groups - which is the number one place
that people search when looking for a group they'd be
interested in.

Worse, it also means that anyone anywhere at anytime
can simply search on your email address and discover
that you a participant in the Gay Fishing Group.

Not a problem for me, I'm out to the world.

But if you were not out before, and you've posted to
this Gay Fishing group... you're out now.

That's just wrong to disregard the privacy needs of
potential members who may not be entirely out, or may
not want their email address discovered in messages
posted to a Gay Group.

That does not happen when a Group is established using
the very familiar Yahoo Group set up. The
individual(s) establishing a group can make it as open
or as closed or as intensely private as they may wish.
No one is going to do a Google search and discover
you participating in a gay Yahoo group.

While I appreciate that there are good intentions in
setting up this Gay Fishing group, it seems to me that
the person(s) responsible are relying on the least
appropriate technology to set it up, and ignoring the
privacy needs of the participants...

If the founder(s) of this Gay Fishing group are
serious in purpose, I suggest this group be
establishing as a Yahoo group. If the founder(s) have
never done that before, please take my word for it,
it's easy and efficient.

-simon


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[Keoeeit]

Thanks for the info (too bad you had to tag it onto my post to say "Hi"
though, couldn't you have posted this as a separate topic rather than
turn my hello into some server battle?) This is why I always use
disposable email accounts for ANYthing I do online. And it has nothing
to do with being "out" (which I am), I just don't use my private mail
with anyone other than people I can trust. And thanks for the info
about Yahoo groups, but I stay away from them like the plague. Their
spyware, web-spy bug graphics, spy-banner-ads, and spam in general
isn't worth even using Yahoo for searching for things, let alone for
something of a more personal nature. I'm glad you enjoy them though.
I'm not that irresponsible to give up my basic human rights.

[Frank]

Glad to have you join with us!

In spite of Simon's concerns, we do try to monitor the postings here
and have had several removed which were inappropriate.

I answered you post about flyfishing before I read this post which said
where you lived. I will try to locate FFF affiliate clubs for you if
you can be more specific to your area. You can email me directly or by
reply here.

I understand that Minnesota is the land of ten thousand lakes and two
hundred fish! Any truth to that?

Again welcome.

Tight lines!

Frank Meyers
frme...@comcast.net
founder, google gay fishing group