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Steve
Dec 7, 2009, 3:00:22 AM12/7/09
to Gaelic learners
Hi All
Trying to find the best teach your self material out there. I already
have the teach yourself book and CD, however I spend a lot of time
travelling and really need something like a CD course that I can stick
in the car or transfer to my phone.
So really looking for a full course on audio cd. I haven't been able
to find any so far that fit the bill.
Anyone got any recommendations?
Moran Taing
Trying to find the best teach your self material out there. I already
have the teach yourself book and CD, however I spend a lot of time
travelling and really need something like a CD course that I can stick
in the car or transfer to my phone.
So really looking for a full course on audio cd. I haven't been able
to find any so far that fit the bill.
Anyone got any recommendations?
Moran Taing
Fred Riley
Dec 7, 2009, 5:28:54 AM12/7/09
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Hi Steve
There's a lot of self-tuition stuff out there, quite an amazing amount
for a minority language, but I'm not sure I could recommend a
particular course. Most of the stuff for learners looks to be online
these days. There's the Teach Yourself Gaelic course by Boyd Robertson
(search for "Teach Yourself Gaelic" at Amazon and you'll hit it) which
comes on book and CD. I've got the book which is pretty good, though I
never used the CD that came with it. For speaking practice, there's
the excellent Everyday Gaelic by Morag Macneill which is essentially
an audio phrasebook on CD with booklet, but it's not a course as such
- worth having, though, IMO.
If your car CD player can handle MP3 CDs, or even MP3s on USB stick,
then there are quite a few podcasts out there you could sub to and
listen to in the car. Gaelcast and the famous Letter to Gaelic
Learners by Roddy Maclean come immediately to mind. Again, not courses
as such but good sources of native speaker material.
The course I and many on her have taken I would recommend, which is An
Cursa Inntrigidh (the entrance course) from the Gaelic college on
Skye, Sabhal Mor Ostaig (SMO) - see
http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/en/cursaichean/inntrigidh/. The audio part of
the course is on MP3 files, and you can also get 'normal' CDs for
players that can't handle MP3. There are workbooks, a weekly phone
tutorial, and assessments, so of course you do need to be committed.
It is very good, though.
To be honest, Gaelic in my view is not the sort of language you can
teach yourself, mainly because it's bloody hard and has little
connection with any other European language (other than Irish, from
which it comes), and also because the pronunciation requires oral
practice. A lingo like Italian (my main 2nd language) is easy in
comparison, as the pronunciation is regular and clear, but Gaelic has
sounds (such as "caol" and "gaoth") which are unusual and difficult
for native English speakers. You could teach yourself written Gaelic,
but for verbal I don't think there's any alternative to native speaker
contact.
A 'starter for ten' is my annotated list of Gaelic links at
http://www.fredriley.org.uk/call/langsite/celtic.html (it needs
updating but most of the links are sound, I think). You could also ask
your question at Foram na Gaidhlig (http://www.foramnagaidhlig.net/)
which has far more members than this small group, including native
speakers, learners, and teachers. If you get any joy, do please post
the results back here :)
Cheers
Fred
2009/12/7 Steve <marsh...@btinternet.com>:
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There's a lot of self-tuition stuff out there, quite an amazing amount
for a minority language, but I'm not sure I could recommend a
particular course. Most of the stuff for learners looks to be online
these days. There's the Teach Yourself Gaelic course by Boyd Robertson
(search for "Teach Yourself Gaelic" at Amazon and you'll hit it) which
comes on book and CD. I've got the book which is pretty good, though I
never used the CD that came with it. For speaking practice, there's
the excellent Everyday Gaelic by Morag Macneill which is essentially
an audio phrasebook on CD with booklet, but it's not a course as such
- worth having, though, IMO.
If your car CD player can handle MP3 CDs, or even MP3s on USB stick,
then there are quite a few podcasts out there you could sub to and
listen to in the car. Gaelcast and the famous Letter to Gaelic
Learners by Roddy Maclean come immediately to mind. Again, not courses
as such but good sources of native speaker material.
The course I and many on her have taken I would recommend, which is An
Cursa Inntrigidh (the entrance course) from the Gaelic college on
Skye, Sabhal Mor Ostaig (SMO) - see
http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/en/cursaichean/inntrigidh/. The audio part of
the course is on MP3 files, and you can also get 'normal' CDs for
players that can't handle MP3. There are workbooks, a weekly phone
tutorial, and assessments, so of course you do need to be committed.
It is very good, though.
To be honest, Gaelic in my view is not the sort of language you can
teach yourself, mainly because it's bloody hard and has little
connection with any other European language (other than Irish, from
which it comes), and also because the pronunciation requires oral
practice. A lingo like Italian (my main 2nd language) is easy in
comparison, as the pronunciation is regular and clear, but Gaelic has
sounds (such as "caol" and "gaoth") which are unusual and difficult
for native English speakers. You could teach yourself written Gaelic,
but for verbal I don't think there's any alternative to native speaker
contact.
A 'starter for ten' is my annotated list of Gaelic links at
http://www.fredriley.org.uk/call/langsite/celtic.html (it needs
updating but most of the links are sound, I think). You could also ask
your question at Foram na Gaidhlig (http://www.foramnagaidhlig.net/)
which has far more members than this small group, including native
speakers, learners, and teachers. If you get any joy, do please post
the results back here :)
Cheers
Fred
2009/12/7 Steve <marsh...@btinternet.com>:
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Steve
Dec 10, 2009, 4:10:18 AM12/10/09
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Thanks Fred.
I agree it isn't an easy language and I do regret not learning it as a
young boy growing up in Scotland it would have been easier as they
say - old dog new tricks!
I have managed Germand and Polish in this way so did think I could do
the same with Gaelic. Thanks for the feedback and the links.
Cheers
Steve
On 7 Dec, 10:28, Fred Riley <fred.ri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve
>
> There's a lot of self-tuition stuff out there, quite an amazing amount
> for a minority language, but I'm not sure I could recommend a
> particular course. Most of the stuff for learners looks to be online
> these days. There's the Teach Yourself Gaelic course by Boyd Robertson
> (search for "Teach Yourself Gaelic" at Amazon and you'll hit it) which
> comes on book and CD. I've got the book which is pretty good, though I
> never used the CD that came with it. For speaking practice, there's
> the excellent Everyday Gaelic by Morag Macneill which is essentially
> an audio phrasebook on CD with booklet, but it's not a course as such
> - worth having, though, IMO.
>
> If your car CD player can handle MP3 CDs, or even MP3s on USB stick,
> then there are quite a few podcasts out there you could sub to and
> listen to in the car. Gaelcast and the famous Letter to Gaelic
> Learners by Roddy Maclean come immediately to mind. Again, not courses
> as such but good sources of native speaker material.
>
> The course I and many on her have taken I would recommend, which is An
> Cursa Inntrigidh (the entrance course) from the Gaelic college on
> Skye, Sabhal Mor Ostaig (SMO) - seehttp://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/en/cursaichean/inntrigidh/. The audio part of
>
> - Show quoted text -
I agree it isn't an easy language and I do regret not learning it as a
young boy growing up in Scotland it would have been easier as they
say - old dog new tricks!
I have managed Germand and Polish in this way so did think I could do
the same with Gaelic. Thanks for the feedback and the links.
Cheers
Steve
On 7 Dec, 10:28, Fred Riley <fred.ri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve
>
> There's a lot of self-tuition stuff out there, quite an amazing amount
> for a minority language, but I'm not sure I could recommend a
> particular course. Most of the stuff for learners looks to be online
> these days. There's the Teach Yourself Gaelic course by Boyd Robertson
> (search for "Teach Yourself Gaelic" at Amazon and you'll hit it) which
> comes on book and CD. I've got the book which is pretty good, though I
> never used the CD that came with it. For speaking practice, there's
> the excellent Everyday Gaelic by Morag Macneill which is essentially
> an audio phrasebook on CD with booklet, but it's not a course as such
> - worth having, though, IMO.
>
> If your car CD player can handle MP3 CDs, or even MP3s on USB stick,
> then there are quite a few podcasts out there you could sub to and
> listen to in the car. Gaelcast and the famous Letter to Gaelic
> Learners by Roddy Maclean come immediately to mind. Again, not courses
> as such but good sources of native speaker material.
>
> The course I and many on her have taken I would recommend, which is An
> Cursa Inntrigidh (the entrance course) from the Gaelic college on
> the course is on MP3 files, and you can also get 'normal' CDs for
> players that can't handle MP3. There are workbooks, a weekly phone
> tutorial, and assessments, so of course you do need to be committed.
> It is very good, though.
>
> To be honest, Gaelic in my view is not the sort of language you can
> teach yourself, mainly because it's bloody hard and has little
> connection with any other European language (other than Irish, from
> which it comes), and also because the pronunciation requires oral
> practice. A lingo like Italian (my main 2nd language) is easy in
> comparison, as the pronunciation is regular and clear, but Gaelic has
> sounds (such as "caol" and "gaoth") which are unusual and difficult
> for native English speakers. You could teach yourself written Gaelic,
> but for verbal I don't think there's any alternative to native speaker
> contact.
>
> A 'starter for ten' is my annotated list of Gaelic links athttp://www.fredriley.org.uk/call/langsite/celtic.html(it needs
> players that can't handle MP3. There are workbooks, a weekly phone
> tutorial, and assessments, so of course you do need to be committed.
> It is very good, though.
>
> To be honest, Gaelic in my view is not the sort of language you can
> teach yourself, mainly because it's bloody hard and has little
> connection with any other European language (other than Irish, from
> which it comes), and also because the pronunciation requires oral
> practice. A lingo like Italian (my main 2nd language) is easy in
> comparison, as the pronunciation is regular and clear, but Gaelic has
> sounds (such as "caol" and "gaoth") which are unusual and difficult
> for native English speakers. You could teach yourself written Gaelic,
> but for verbal I don't think there's any alternative to native speaker
> contact.
>
> updating but most of the links are sound, I think). You could also ask
> your question at Foram na Gaidhlig (http://www.foramnagaidhlig.net/)
> which has far more members than this small group, including native
> speakers, learners, and teachers. If you get any joy, do please post
> the results back here :)
>
> Cheers
>
> Fred
>
> 2009/12/7 Steve <marshall...@btinternet.com>:
> your question at Foram na Gaidhlig (http://www.foramnagaidhlig.net/)
> which has far more members than this small group, including native
> speakers, learners, and teachers. If you get any joy, do please post
> the results back here :)
>
> Cheers
>
> Fred
>
>
>
>
> > Hi All
> > Trying to find the best teach your self material out there. I already
> > have the teach yourself book and CD, however I spend a lot of time
> > travelling and really need something like a CD course that I can stick
> > in the car or transfer to my phone.
>
> > So really looking for a full course on audio cd. I haven't been able
> > to find any so far that fit the bill.
>
> > Anyone got any recommendations?
>
> > Moran Taing
>
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>
>
> > Hi All
> > Trying to find the best teach your self material out there. I already
> > have the teach yourself book and CD, however I spend a lot of time
> > travelling and really need something like a CD course that I can stick
> > in the car or transfer to my phone.
>
> > So really looking for a full course on audio cd. I haven't been able
> > to find any so far that fit the bill.
>
> > Anyone got any recommendations?
>
> > Moran Taing
>
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Fred Riley
Dec 10, 2009, 7:37:32 AM12/10/09
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2009/12/10 Steve <marsh...@btinternet.com>:
these days, they're all the rage. Really. CLI Gaidhlig
(http://iletec.co.uk/clinew/) is a good starting point.
Where did you grow up?
> I have managed Germand and Polish in this way so did think I could do
> the same with Gaelic.
Good luck - I suspect you'll need it. In comparison to Gaelic, German
is easy for English speakers as English is half-Germanic anyway,
though I suspect Polish is rather trickier. At least you'll have your
language learning strategies sussed by now.
Tìoraidh
Fred
> Thanks Fred.
> I agree it isn't an easy language and I do regret not learning it as a
> young boy growing up in Scotland it would have been easier as they
> say - old dog new tricks!
If you're still in Scotland then you can't move for Gaelic courses
> I agree it isn't an easy language and I do regret not learning it as a
> young boy growing up in Scotland it would have been easier as they
> say - old dog new tricks!
these days, they're all the rage. Really. CLI Gaidhlig
(http://iletec.co.uk/clinew/) is a good starting point.
Where did you grow up?
> I have managed Germand and Polish in this way so did think I could do
> the same with Gaelic.
is easy for English speakers as English is half-Germanic anyway,
though I suspect Polish is rather trickier. At least you'll have your
language learning strategies sussed by now.
Tìoraidh
Fred
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