Note to Lahry

[Harold Kupp]

Hello Lahry,

Hi Lahry

I just wanted you to know that I still consider you a brother. I
can even respect your integrity for being willing to sacrifice for
what you believe is true.

Someday you will realize the horrible insult to God it is to teach
that God would create some men knowing they would not be called and
therefore there destiny is to live, die and then burn forever because
they never heard the eternal gospel.

On the contrary, they will be sent to the lake of fire to be
punished according to their deeds and then be destroyed. To be
tortured forever would not be righteous judgement.

Rom 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up
unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the
righteous judgment of God;

Rom 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

In the meantime I wish you well. We need men who can preach the
truth about repentance, testing and the necessity to live without
committing willful sin.



Fight the good fight brother,



Harold

[Lahry]

Question? Who are these people? Where do they live? How long will they
live?
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may
have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates
into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and
murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Another question, please?

Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the
righteous into life eternal.

Jesus is of course talking about the sheep and the goats here. But the
words "everlasting" and "eternal" in the KJV are in the Greek one and
the same word. Would JESUS Himself lie? Is He not clearly stating that
those in punishment and the righteous (in Christ) live without end?
What applies to one must surely apply to the other. If you twist this,
then the whole of scripture is worthless. You might just as well write
your own book or just toss it all together, and live according to the
dictates of the flesh.

Harold, be careful. You are setting yourself against what Yah'shua
Himself declared,after going to great length to illustrate HIS
judgement and division upon the nations.

Now, you keep asking "how can God", which communicates to me, "help me
understand". So what I'm hearing is that you cannot accept or believe
what you do not understand. To me, that is to bring God down to the
level of man. This is a huge mistake made by millions of people the
world over and from the beginning of time.

Romans 1:20 For ever since the creation of the world His invisible
nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have
been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the
things that have been made (His handiworks). So [men] are without
excuse [altogether without any defense or justification],(B)
21Because when they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not
honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead they
became futile and [c]godless in their thinking [with vain imaginings,
foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations] and their senseless minds
were darkened.
22Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart,
they made simpletons of themselves].
23And by them the glory and majesty and excellence of the immortal
God were exchanged for and represented by images, resembling mortal
man and birds and beasts and reptiles.

So your concerns about those who heard not the Gospel are clearly
addressed here, are they not?

Changing the subject just a bit, it has come to my attention that you
are a "preterist". I would just like to hear it from you, as I do not
like hearsay. Is that true? A simple yes or know will do. Thank you.

[monarkman]

Dear Harold,
The doctrine of eternal punishment is a hard one to swallow indeed, I
wish it could be ommitted somehow. But, it cannot, and like it or not,
God has revealed himself to us. It is a deception of the devil to
think otherwise, ( that people will just die, go in the grave and
cease to exist) So, yes, I am saying that you believe this you have
been decieved, sorry. The devil laughs every time he can convince
someone that those who are not Christian (law breakers, children of
wrath, etc.) will not be PUNISHED for their "sin".

The Scripture is very clear. I don't need to post scripture verses
here, be a Berean and search for yourself. To deny the eternal lake
of fire and punishment may even be a blasphemy against the Holy
Spirit. This is an insult to the Holy God who has revealed his true
nature and will to use through his Holy, Inspired Word.

I the Scripture is pretty clear, I may be wrong, but "No one comes to
the Father except through me....." " He that has NOT the Son, has not
life, for the wrath of God abides on him.." etc, etc, etc.

I admire Lahry a lot for really living his beliefs in an
uncompromising manner.

Grace be with you,
WM

[Harold Kupp]

Hello monarchman:

You have not understood what I have said. All mankind who have not
believed and repented will be sent to the lake of fire to be punished
according for their deeds then they will be destroyed.

Is that not enough wrath for you? Torture in the lake of fire then
cease to exist forever?

Harold

Please see the new thread with Lahry.