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Txbo...@aol.com

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Mar 12, 2017, 8:50:39 PM3/12/17
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As a response to Doug and others (I haven't read all the responses yet,), but yes, this Florida-bamboo list WAS almost defunk for years:: I would see only 2 o3 per year.   NOW I see the tremendous outpouring of response, from all over Florida..   Sounds GREAT to me..   And also know that some of you Florida folks have made a grand effort to "get back on the Bamboo Map", again..  It was a shame to see it neglected for some years, but then most all things tend to cycle..  Glad to see the "upswing"..  
        And BTW, can anyone tell me what has happened to Roy Rogers, of Tampa..  And to the other "Rogers" of that general area, or anyone else for that matter. Roy had one of the better groups of clumpers that did well in the Tampa/ Gainsville area.  He also had his "super great" offshoot from Gainsvilles, B, t, Kanapaha bamboo. 
 
Cheers to all..  Kinder Chambers, of Tx. Bamboo Society  txbo...@aol.com  
 
In a message dated 3/12/2017 7:52:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, dougla...@gmail.com writes:
Ivan,
Not sure about the tibeticus, but I know of a healthy Parker's Giant in the Jacksonville area, but coastal areas tend to be a bit more buffered from swinging temps than inland.

However, in my limited opinion, it's the drying effect on tropical/subtropical bamboos from wind and lack of moisture that seems to decide their fate when we're talking about those around the high-low limits.  If the conditions are right (wind-protected, good water availability, etc) a bamboo known to grow in a defined temp zone might do well outside that zone (not 2-3 zones in most cases).

I don't know if this list is dead...doesn't seem to be much activity, but many probably receive it but don't post.

Take care,

-Doug

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:05 AM, Ivan Hartley <ivanhar...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all

Anyone know the true lows for the new Dendrocalamus tibeticus  and does it flourish in west central Florida? 
Also what is the real Low for Parkers giant ? 
I live in West Central Florida and would like to add to my collection species of Bamboo especially large timber Bamboo's 
anything that can take 26 degrees should have no problem except in a bad year Most years only down to 30 degrees a few days/hours a year 
This year is the first year in my knowledge (40 years) where i live that we did not have a Frost!  and I can only remember 4 years (this is the 4 year)
that we did not drop below 32 degrees for more than an hour   

please refer me to other list if this is a "dead" list ...thank you 

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Doug Perry <dougla...@gmail.com> wrote:
The bamboo business is not for the faint of heart in my opinion, and I believe it involves a fair bit of installation services to really be profitable.
I would suggest making this a fun, side business and giving up your day job if it is wildly successful.  I grow for fun and have made some great bamboo friends, but it's time consuming and the general public can eat you alive. :)

If you are in the Sarasota are, I'd be happy to give you stuff from my yard that would survive in that area.  

I can't recommend growing anything but clumping bamboo in Florida.

Best wishes

-Doug

bamboodoug at gmail dot com

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:45 PM, David Harvey <legendar...@gmail.com> wrote:
www.timberbamboonursery.com

here to help

On Tuesday, August 8, 2006 at 11:07:16 PM UTC-4, Tundra wrote:
G'day Folks,  I am interested in dedicating a large portion of my 22
acres to bamboo growing for fun and profit.  Haven't been able to get
help from Florida Agriculture folks.  My property is west of
Gainesville FL near the Suwannee River about 20 miles from the coast.
16 acres are seasonal hammock - sandy loam with plenty of water
(fresh).  The clumping bamboo I have established is thriving (not sure
the name but common variety used for cane fishing poles about 12-15 ft
high, 1-2 inch diameters.  I would like to diversify species adding
larger commerically useful varieties.
If anyone is interested in helping me, perhaps sharing plantings,
co-op, etc, please contact me //ar...@aol.com//.  Anyone who can
recommend links in the central/north FL and southern GA/AL areas would
be a great help too.

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As the Aussie's say Good on Ye"...   I see you discovered, the same thing I did after our HEART Surgery..    Exercise if good for ya.   One just has to "take it easy" for a while, and when on gets tired, STOP right then, and take Ten (or 20 min)..   At 88 I "help' folks dig bamboo off of our place (the ONLY way we sell it, is "dig your own"), and I usually end up digging at least ONE to show how it's done, so as to assure plants to grow after transplant and "transplant shock".... 
        As opposed to Hermines' "customer aggravation", folks to want it bad enough to dig their own, NEVER complain..   It's always "Thank you', Thank you, Thank you.  If it were not, these old codgers wouldn't put up with is..  Not much income from it.. More like the wife's "butter and egg" money, but so be it..
 
Peace and blessings to all.         Kinder C.    Tx Bamboo Soc..
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In a message dated 3/12/2017 4:09:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jrog...@tampabay.rr.com writes:
Ivan,

It seems like at least a couple of decades since we’ve conversed.  When I had my heart attack, my cardiologists told me my bambooing days were over.  So in-between stays in the hospital, I sold my stock plants of bamboo.  But starting about the Summer of 2014, I started doing a little digging, and the more I dug, it seemed like the stronger I got.  So now when I dig out and pot bamboos, it’s all about my health.  I’ve re-landscaped my backyard, and I generally have a few hundred pots left over to sell each year.  I’m down to almost nothing right now, so I’ll probably start doing some health exercising with my post hole digger pretty soon.


Roy Rogers
Tampa, FL

Tom Harlow

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Mar 12, 2017, 9:20:37 PM3/12/17
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Thanks everyone for reviving this list. After leaving Florida in 2003 to live in Missouri, and Tennessee (2006) and now Asia (since 2015), I apologize for not doing anything to promote the group. I haven't heard much about John Rogers, but from Facebook I think he' into dancing these days.

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Jean Pattison

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Mar 13, 2017, 1:28:27 AM3/13/17
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Well, go back and read some of the posts. Roy of Tampa posted a few times :)
Glad to see the posts recently, although I don't really "DO" bamboo, I had purchased a few sticks of Old hamii from Roy about 6-7 years ago and now I have a few beautiful clumps. On windy days I just go out and listen to them.
Thanks to all of you that "DO" bamboo.
Jean


At 08:50 PM 3/12/2017, you wrote:
As a response to Doug and others (I haven't read all the responses yet,), but yes, this Florida-bamboo list WAS almost defunk for years:: I would see only 2 o3 per year.   NOW I see the tremendous outpouring of response, from all over Florida..   Sounds GREAT to me..   And also know that some of you Florida folks have made a grand effort to "get back on the Bamboo Map", again..  It was a shame to see it neglected for some years, but then most all things tend to cycle..  Glad to see the "upswing"..  
        And BTW, can anyone tell me what has happened to Roy Rogers, of Tampa..  And to the other "Rogers" of that general area, or anyone else for that matter. Roy had one of the better groups of clumpers that did well in the Tampa/ Gainsville area.  He also had his "super great" offshoot from Gainsvilles, B, t, Kanapaha bamboo. 
 
Cheers to all..  Kinder Chambers, of Tx. Bamboo Society  txbo...@aol.com 
 

Jean Pattison



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john rogers

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Mar 13, 2017, 11:20:48 AM3/13/17
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This is John Rogers, Roy's Bambusa Cousin, who still lives and gardens in Melbourne (FL).  Since my dancing friends use their cameras more than my gardening friends, Facebook makes it look like I'm always dancing.   But by day, I experiment with dense perennial polycultures of mostly (sub)tropical fruit trees and shrubs often planted on hugelkulture berms.  And I spent almost three years making biochar out of dry wood chips using large TLUD kilns burned in groups of three or four.  It took that long to treat my whole two acre garden with a thin layer of crushed charcoal.  A YouTube search of my name and Biochar for Small Farms will illustrate fanaticism in that direction.


My Parker Giant is in full tight flower, with no pollen showing.  It's the huge mat that blew over in hurricane Matthew.  The largest culm was 5.25 in diameter.  I'm one of the collectors suggesting that Parker is a robust clone of B. beecheyanna.  Maybe the price of  flowering will at least yield a positive ID for this monster.  I would love to see it growing in coastal south Georgia. 


My D. minor amoenus is in light flower and the little buds are opening to reveal their inner parts.  I will play romantic music.


I got a B. doliclaclada from Richard Waldron years ago, and he said it did not have the mosaic potex virus.  It is a beauty whose culms have a slight oval cross section.  It's an open clumper that looks like a giant Dendro, but with smaller leaves.


And still left in my collection is a B. membranaceous with very short inter nodes, almost horizontal branches, and a slight increasing diameter as the culms grow upward, till about midpoint.  That seems like a rare trait to me.


And Tom Harlow, thanks for your peace keeping efforts on the Korean peninsula.


John Rogers




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Hermine Stover

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Mar 13, 2017, 2:50:09 PM3/13/17
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        As opposed to Hermines' "customer aggravation", folks to want it bad enough to dig their own, NEVER complain..   It's always "Thank you', Thank you, Thank you.  If it were not, these old codgers wouldn't put up with is..  Not much income from it.. More like the wife's "butter and egg" money, but so be it..
 


what you describe, the idea of a Californian paying you to dig out his or her bamboo, this idea has not been heard of here. somebody MIGHT if it were free, although I have not heard of this either.

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Last I spoke with Mr. Rogers about 3 years ago, he was retiring from the business.  
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