2010 Building Codes & Pools in SFHA

[Scott Fraser]

Looking over the new building codes to take effect this March, I came across Sec. 424.2.4.2.1 which states that private swimming pools shall comply with Sec. 1612.

 

Section 1612 deals with flood loads, elevation etc... 

 

I don't see anything in this section that specifically address pools.  So... how would Sec. 1612 apply to pools?  First floor/basement heights?

 

I feel like I'm missing something obvious here, but can't put my finger on it.

 

Scott
Scott Fraser
FEMA Coordinator/Floodplain Administrator
305-809-3810 o.
305-923-4964 c.
sfr...@keywestcity.com

[Bradley Vance]

Scott,

 

In the simpliest of applications it would be bouyancy. However, there are a number of pools along the coastal environs that are elevated to or about the first floor which becons that of wave action design, though not a habitable structure or that of a building function(s).

 

Brad

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Bradley  S.  Vance, PE, CFM

Managing  Member

h2eaux,  LLC

phone:  239 - 297 - 5100

email: h2eauxLLC@gmail.com

[Rebecca C. Quinn]

FBC, building Sec. 1612.4 refers to ASCE 24.  ASCE 24, Sec. 9.5 addresses pools.  But yes, except in Zone V, the primary issue is buoyancy.  But also watch if an above-ground, on-ground or in-ground pool with fill is in a floodway, because that becomes a floodway encroachment. 

 

Also see 2010 FBC, Residential R322.2.4 (Zones A) and R322.3.3.1 (Zones V). 

 

Rebecca C. Quinn, CFM

RCQuinn Consulting, Inc.

104 4th St NE #2

Charlottesville VA 22902

434-296-1349 (voice)

443-398-5005 (cell)

320-514-3513 (FAX)

[Dean R Jarvis]

Pools in a coastal zone need to be tied down on pilings or break away for debris impact to adjacent structures.

 

 

 

Regards,

Dean Jarvis

CGR-CR-CFM-CKBR-CGP-GMR-GMB

Florida Renovators, Inc.  and Professional Training & Consultants, Inc.

Phone:  727-531-9520

Fax:  727-536-2643

www.floridarenovators.com

[Dean R Jarvis]

Rod, FEMA has pictures and documents of pools crashing in to structures. In a storm no one can predict anything. I have not heard about removal of any rule. Its not enforce anyways.

 

 

 

Regards,

Dean Jarvis

CGR-CR-CFM-CKBR-CGP-GMR-GMB

Florida Renovators, Inc.  and Professional Training & Consultants, Inc.

Phone:  727-531-9520

Fax:  727-536-2643

www.floridarenovators.com

 

From: Florida Renovators inc [mailto:flreno...@tampabay.rr.com]
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Subject: RE: 2010 Building Codes & Pools in SFHA

 

Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t pools generally fill up with water especially during a flood so where is the buoyancy?  In coastal beach areas, they usually fill with sand as well, again what buoyancy?

 

Buoyancy is defined as “Resultant of upward forces exerted by the water on a submerged or floating body equal to the weight of the water displaced by this body.

 

Dean:  Have you heard anything about FEMA altering or doing away with the 50% rule?