Summary Discussion 9/8/05

[Calvin]

Hello everyone,

Just a quick summary of what we went over at today's meeting.

First, we talked about a date to meet again and thought that since I
will not be available and some of the documents I am writing are not
completed, next week will be a good option to meet.

1. We would like to meet next Friday, September 16th at 2pm to discuss
in more detail about some aspects of the project and to align everyone
on the right page.

2. I then shared with Pratibha, Bineeta, and Christine some of the
recent developments as far as new members to the group, including Anita
Shanker (newest core team member), and undergraduate and graduate
students to help out with the project.

3. We went over Pratibha's model of the 3 layers and how I am going to
structure some of the requirements via layers.

4. Talked about some of the documents that I will be attaching
regarding some business logic in the office, which basically was meant
as a primer to see how the old system works.

5. We also went over the 2 books that were recently checked out from
the library. (Renato, I have a book that describes some of the design
patterns you were talking about)

6. I also explained to them some functionality of a web log aka blog
and how in the future we can implement that using drupal/civicspace
content management system for student service reflections. I showed
them an example of almost live podcasting via my blog.

With that said, we will not be meeting tomorrow, but next Friday, 16th
of September. Please post comments on if this time will work for
everyone.

Thanks again everyone for your patience with me and your dedication to
this project!!!

Oh yeah, tomorrow I will be launching the new website I created for the
department, so if you want to check it out and give feedback (real,
honest feedback)...I would love it!

here is the link:
tomorrow's new location
http://www.nccu.edu/commserv
if its not located on that link yet:
http://www.nccu.edu/commserv/test

yours in service,
Calvin

[Calvin Webster]

here are some of the attatchments I was referring to.

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"Absence diminishes little passions and
increases great ones, as wind extinguishes
candles and fans a fire" -Rochefoucauld

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Hi Calvin,

 

If I understood well, we will have a meet next Friday, 16th, not tomorrow. That's alright? For me, don't have problem. Just

send me the doubt if you desire clarify something.

 

Another important thing is definition of responsabilities. Each one of us should to be responsable for, at least, one part of the project

and became specialist in that area. This kind of definition is one of the good practices in project J2EE and also very helpful. Calvin,

would you coordinate this task? I understand that everyone will participate of everything, but is really important that each one became

owner of something in the project.

 

The priorities right now:

 

1. Develop a example in Struts that:

   1.1 We could put some information in a page (grid or form - grid is better); (presentation layer)

   1.2 After a submit, get this information and send to the database (no business logic in this first example); (controller)

   1.3 The database should store this information; (DAO - Data Access Object with JDO or even JDBC) JDBC is simplest than JDO,

         I think, but is almost deprecated in the J2EE projects.

   1.4 Create querys to be possible see the information that we registered. (controller/ presentation layer)

 

2. Definitions of design pattern for our problems:

   2.1 We need to know what is our problem. Seems obvious, but I really don't know yet;

   2.1 Assign the correct solution (Design Pattern) for the correspondent problem.

 

3. We should start make definition of class and their responsabilities inside the scope of Struts. (we need the item 1 before)

 

If we get it, we can go to the next step, that is, create business logic in this same flow above.

 

In this first example we would work together and put here the advances that each one get about it. What do you think? Suggestions?

 

I didn't find out a good web site that talk about Struts with good examples. I even seach so much, to be honest. What I know is that the book "Struts in Action" is my reference to get start in this framework. I didn't buy yet, but if anyone is interested, I suggest this book. If somebody

find out a good web site, please, let us know.

 

Calvin, what the name of the book that you have that talk about Design Patterns? The 5 stars and considered the classic in Design Patterns

is this one http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0201633612/qid=1126239043/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-4993335-5515868?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

 

Some persons don't like this book because is so bored. I don't like because, as they said, the example is not in Java :-).

Since that Design Pattern, mainly in the beginner of the project, have more to do with theory, we could find out a good web site instead

buy a book. One more time, suggestions?

 

I'm just seeing your attachments and your web page Calvin.

 

Right now I have comments just about the web page:

The resource that you used with flash is amazing. I really like Flash and you made a good job. I have some comments just about why

you don't keep all the links in the same page instead open a new one. In my view point, just pdf files, and something that you need make a download, should be open in a new page. Opt to you. Also, I saw some fonts there are out of standard. Some pages is in one type of

font and other with another type, and the page are in the same context. The last thing is that sometimes I have difficulties to read when

the background color is purple.

 

I hope that my comments doesn't make you feel bad.

For now is that I have to say, I'm open for more information from you.

 

Thank you.

 

Appreciate your feedback.

 

All the best,

 

Renato.

[Renato da Silva Viana]

I'm sorry... Calvin and Everyone!!

[Calvin]

Renato,

Thank you very much for you suggestions on our FASC-IS project; I would
like to discuss this more in detail with you shortly, possibly next
week...later on (after wednesday)

As for my website, I am definitely not sad/mad...it is hard to get
honest feedback, which is what I need the most to ensure I am doing an
effective job.

very insightful suggestions
1. links need to be opened in a new page (i am going to make those
changes, THANKS!)
2. text is different fonts/sizes (i need to create a global CSS for
this...just been too lazy to do it, but changes are underway)
3. I didnt know some backgrounds are purple though, i definitely am
going to look into this...possibly Barney the dinosaur hijacked my site
:- | because the site is supposed to be NCCU's Maroon and Grey with
black....I actually had to follow these standards set by the
university's web policy and webmaster.

I have certain questions regarding your suggestions on FASC-IS
1.1-1.3 --When you say grid is better than form....is a grid a table?
-- I also understand that you want us to test the form
submission in a very simple way, but I was wondering if you could
clarify the meanings of "The database should store this information;
*(DAO - Data Access Object
with JDO or even JDBC)* JDBC is simplest than JDO"
---such as, What is a Data Access Object, JDO, and JDBC?...and in
what context....and located in the controller layer?
---what are the differences amongst DAO, JDO, and JDBC....and how
is JDBC simpler than JDO...(also what are advantages of JDO over
JDBC...is the latter being deprecated a major consideration for future
use...or will it still stay a viable standard/?)

2-2.1
--Can you clarify our 'problems'....in the context of our project
and what sorts of methods to be employed to explore solutions?....I
understand that design patterns are in place because developers run
into the same 'problems' over and over...so for times sake and 'best
practice' certain solutions are integral to the patterns, so I am
wondering in the context of our project, what sorts of problems we need
to consider.....and I also understand that you all need to understand
the vision of the whole project in its scope and what are going to be
the final uses/functions....for the sake of knowing what our problems
are....but I guess i still am struggling for an example of a peer
project....like what sorts of generic problems are solved by patters,
etc.

Thank you Renato for your insight....and if anyone may have suggestions
or more questions/comments to this thread, please post.

I am interested in some of the questions you all have, since you all
have more java/database knowledge than I.

Everyone have a wonderful weekend!!!

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Hi Calvin,

 

I will try clarify as fast as I can.

 

1.1-1.3 --When you say grid is better than form....is a grid a table?

Yes, grid is table. But think as dynamic table.

 "The database should store this information;

I'm sorry about that. Maybe I caused confusion for you. It just mean that

we need get the information, that was typed by the user, and send it to the database. Obviously, the

database need store this information. Perhaps I couldn't put this sentence like that.

 

*(DAO - Data Access Object
with JDO or even JDBC)* JDBC is simplest than JDO"
     ---such as, What is a Data Access Object, JDO, and JDBC?...and in
what context....and located in the controller layer?

DAO is one of the patterns that we could resolve the problems to generate dynamic SQL to send to the database with the

information that came from the user. JDBC is the API that Java use (DAO, JDO and anything else relation with database in Java use it),

to handle with database. This API is in the package javax.sql. Is the same to say that to handle archives we need use the API java.io or

java.nio. By the way, is a very good idea you take a little browsing in the Java API just to have an idea about the kernel of

Java  http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/. I suggest have this API in your own computer instead go to the web site all the time.

You could download that. This API don't talk about DAO or JDO for example. It's just about the language can do for itself. Don't talk

about Servlets, for example. For that, have another API that come inside the jar file call servlet.jar. This archive is in the installation

of Tomcat that you can see in this path \Tomcat 4.1\common\lib. If you open this archive with any software

like WinZip or WinRar, you will have a better idea what is include and you will see the classes that handle Servlets, for example.

 

 

    ---what are the differences amongst DAO, JDO, and JDBC....and how
is JDBC simpler than JDO...(also what are advantages of JDO over
JDBC...is the latter being deprecated a major consideration for future
use...or will it still stay a viable standard/?)

DAO is just a pattern. Is not a tool or technology. Is the way how you will implement your code to resolve your problems.

JDO and JDBC are classes built to resolve your problem. These are the tecnology. You can use just JDBC for simple projects.

The problem is that we don't know how simple or complex this system could belong. Another interesting point is that

JDO need use JDBC in order to access the database, but in one easy and organized way. Is like a framework to create better

way to make the job with SQL inside the Java code.

 

I need leave now, when I came back I'll continue. Please, post your comments.

 

Maybe my explanation is not complete, so if you saw articles diferent about what I wrote, please, let me know.

 

Thank you,

 

Renato.

 

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Hi Eveyone,

 

I would like to know if anybody could give some feedback about what I wrote, to know if I can continue explain in this same way.

 

Thank you,

 

Renato.

 

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Nobody?

I would like to suggest some assignation for each member in this second phase of the project:

 

Time for the first presentation about the assignation: 9/16/2005

Anita => Configuration of Eclipse integrating with plugin Lomboz, JUnit, Maven and CVS

Bineeta, Christine => Hibernate. We need someone that really know how to use this tool to show us how make the dynamic SQL.

Maybe you also need to know how to use JDBC using the driver for MySQL.

Bineeta, Calvin Pratibha, Renato => Struts

Everyone => Understanding how works together Java, JSP, JDBC, JDO, Servlets, Tomcat

Pratibha, Calvin, Renato => Design Patterns

 

Any comments, please, send me e-mails.

Thank you,

 

Renato.

[Renato da Silva Viana]

I'm sorry, I forgot two things:

 

Calvin => Requirements

 

Another point is the we have available this people:

*Core Team

Undergraduate Students

 

Stacy Harris – To be assigned

Tamika Hayes – To be assigned

 

Graduate students (Masters In Library Science)

 

Nicole Campbell

Belton Taylor

Chevella Thomas

Jasmine McCay

Lisa Dempson

Calvin, how you would like to coordinate them? If you compare with us (Bineeta, Christine, Pratibha and Renato), have they more or less time to be commited in the project?

Best regards,

[Renato da Silva Viana]

I'm sorry, I forgot two things:

 

Calvin => Requirements

 

Another point is taht we have available these people:

*Core Team

Undergraduate Students

 

Stacy Harris – To be assigned

Tamika Hayes – To be assigned

 

Graduate students (Masters In Library Science)

 

Nicole Campbell

Belton Taylor

Chevella Thomas

Jasmine McCay

Lisa Dempson

Calvin, how you would like to coordinate them? If you compare with us (Bineeta, Christine, Pratibha and Renato), have they more or less time to be commited in the project?

Best regards,

[Anita Shanker]

 I'm still new to this project and new to this field, so could you give me a starting point?  I'm still trying to grasp what's going on.

 Anita

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From:  Renato da Silva Viana <renato...@gmail.com>
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Subject:  Re: Summary Discussion 9/8/05
Date:  Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:28:29 -0700

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Calvin and everyone,

 

We need someone with the role to make the configuration in Eclipse. Do you know somebody that could help Anita with that?

 

Anita, we need you work with the configuration of Eclipse and start help us since your experience is not much in Java right now. Sure that you will learn J2EE with all of us, but for now we need that you became a specialist in Eclipse and some of its plugins. Do you think that you can do that?

 

Downloads:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html (Java 1.4)

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/index.php (Eclipse SDK 3.1)

http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_tomcat-4.cgi (Tomcat)

http://www.objectlearn.com/support/docs/installation/install.jsp (Lomboz)

http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2004/02/04/juie.html (JUnit)

http://smweb.bcgsc.bc.ca/cbw/dtt2004.html (CVS)

http://maven.apache.org/start/download.html (Maven)

http://maven.apache.org/reference/plugins/eclipse/

 

It seems to be a huge topic but is more about configuration than Java Programming

You need learn how to make the configuration and show us what you discovery about that. If you have any doubt,

please, send me e-mail.

 

Everyone, I'm sorry but this project have a montain of topics and we need climb this montain.

 

Calvin, would you help Anita with this topic?

 

Thank you very much,

 

Renato.

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Hi Calvin,

 

Are this group still alive :-)? I would to know about feedbacks about I wrote, even it is the reverse idea that I suggested.

 

Thank you everyone,

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Hi Calvin,

 

Are this group still alive :-)? I would like to know about feedbacks about I wrote, even it is the reverse idea that I suggested.

 

Thank you everyone,

 

Renato.

[Anita Shanker]

 I haven't looked at the links yet, but I think I can start with the Eclipse configuration, and I'd appreciate any help along the way.

Anita

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From:  Renato da Silva Viana <renato...@gmail.com>
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To:  FAS...@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: Summary Discussion 9/8/05

Date:  Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:00:14 -0700

[Calvin Webster]

I am sorry i havent responded lately,

Anita, I will defnitely assist you with eclipse....

i am still at my training and they have been keeping me pretty busy
with all the workshops and stuff going on....

i will be back in full force tomorrow evening!!

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Thank you Calvin,

 

Anita, like Calvin said he will help you with Eclipse. If you need any support, please, let me know. Calvin, since you

have a lot of responsabilities, have another person that you could assign to work with Anita?

 

Bieeta, Christine and Pratibha, what about your comments? Do you have any different ideas?

 

Appreciate,

 

Renato.

[Renato da Silva Viana]

I'm sorry, Bineeta and not Bieeta :-)

> inside the jar file call servlet.jar . This archive is in the installation

[Calvin Webster]

Tomorrow night I am also meeting with the Graduate students at 8pm.

if anyone would like to come, it would be very good for getting to
meet them and what they are doing.

Renato, if you can make it that would be really cool to kind of get a
little information on what the graduate students want to work on.

But this meeting is open to everyone who wants to attend, tomorrow at
8pm in the William Jones building....parking will not be an issue.

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Hi Calvin,
 

Look wonderful this meet. I can go, no problem! Just tell with you want that I prepare some information to them.

 

Do you know something about  Bineeta, Christine and Pratibha? I really need to know their ideas about my e-mails and

assignations suggested.

 

Could you give me the address?

 

Have a nice night.

 

Thank you,

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Hi Calvin,
 

Look wonderful this meet. I can go, no problem! Just tell me if you would like that I prepare some information to them.

 

Do you know something about  Bineeta, Christine and Pratibha? I really need to know their ideas about my e-mails and

assignations suggested.

 

Could you give me the address?

 

Have a nice night.

 

Thank you,

 

Renato.

> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/ . I

[Nicole Campbell]

Calvin and Renato,

If some additional information can be provided at the meeting tomorrow on what is already being worked on, by who, and how our (graduate students) can help that would be greatly appreciated.

Here is a list of the areas that we would like to contribute:

Graduate students (Masters In Information Science)

 

Nicole Campbell

Belton Taylor

Chevella Thomas

Jasmine McCay

Lisa Dempson

 

Areas of Graduate student contribution

§         Project Requirements - All members will be involved this will include, but, not limited to information gathering, design requirements, security specification, DB structure

§         Web Design - All members will be involved this will include, but, not limited to HTML, PHP scripting, java script

§         Database Design/Creation - All members will be involved this will include, but, not limited to Data Modeling, writing SQL scripts, creating the database in MYSQL

§         Application Development - Belton Talyor may contribute in the business layer of the design coding JAVA, STRUTS, and JSPs. Although, it depends on the complexity and time.

§         Testing - All members will be involved

§         User Training and Documentation - All member will be involved

 

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From:  Renato da Silva Viana <renato...@gmail.com>
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To:  FAS...@googlegroups.com
Subject:  Re: Summary Discussion 9/8/05

Date:  Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:02:50 -0700

[Pratibha Nori]

Hi Renato and Everyone,

Sorry about not getting back to you earlier on this. I hadn't checked my mails and I suddenly saw a whole lot of them today!! Took me a long time to read all of them  whew!

I think its a very good idea to split and assign the tasks Renato.This puts things in a better perspective.Most important now that each one of us know our tasks we can focus and prepare better. I will most certainly read about struts and design patterns so I can start contributing in those areas. As you pointed out there are a mountain of topics! to cover. So lets start one by one.

Thanks,

Pratibha

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[Renato da Silva Viana]

Hi Everyone,

 

Nice heard about you again Pratibha! You are alright. I think now will be easy focus in the areas which each one have their responsabilities.

Do you can go tomorrow in the meet too?
Like you told, you need to start the tasks one by one. Also, we have luck to have a lot of people available. So, we can do the activities in parallel.

 

Nicole, I really don't know what the point of the project we have been updating with Calvin. For now, I think that Calvin and I will make the assignation of the activities and is very nice to know that have a lot of students available to help and interested to learn in this project.

 

To make the correct assignation we need to know the experience of each one. Like you pointed, everyone will participate of everything, but not now. First, we need organize our project and as soon as the project become with a little better shape, all of us will tell about each part of the project for all the people that make part in this project. Calvin would talk better about it to you.

 

What I would like to say is that we need divide the job to be possible everyone to be responsable of one part and at the same time learn about the another parts of the project.
 

I divided some activities with the people that Calvin and I already know a little bit about their skills (of course, we are still open to changes). Now we need to know more about all you (and the time that you are available for the project):

 

Nicole Campbell

Belton Taylor

Chevella Thomas

Jasmine McCay

Lisa Dempson

 

 

Please, if I'm not clear in anything or if you have any doubts, send me e-mails.

 

Thank you very much,

 

Renato.

 

[Bineeta Sinha]

Hi Everyone

 

Sorry for the delay in response. 

 

I have configured Eclipse earlier so I can help Anita with that, specially since Calvin has too many things going on, Calvin/Anita let me know .  I have also done JDBC using Mysql so I can take care of that.

As you have suggested  I do Hibernate, I haven't done anything with Hibernate earlier but I can go and start looking around. I may need some help with this, I'll let you know and I'll work with Christine on this.

 

As far as STRUTS is concerned I have already started reading about it and it is really exciting.

 

I have experience with TOMCAT, Java and some JSP and Servlets so I can pitch in there.

 

I think we should start looking into the database design as well.Any thoughts ? Once we have our Data Model ready we can go ahead and start work on MySQL.

 

Calvin, how about hardware resources, do we have servers/computers to install and configure all the tools , can we setup remote access on this computer so that we can work remotely ?

 

Taken from Renato's email :

 

Bineeta, Christine => Hibernate. We need someone that really know how to use this tool to show us how make the dynamic SQL.

Maybe you also need to know how to use JDBC using the driver for MySQL.

Bineeta, Calvin Pratibha, Renato => Struts

Everyone => Understanding how works together Java, JSP, JDBC, JDO, Servlets, Tomcat

Pratibha, Calvin, Renato => Design Patterns

 

Regards

 

Bineeta

 

On 9/13/05, Pratibha Nori <npr...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Hi Bineeta,

 

You are really advanced with your tasks, even before the assignation that I suggested. When you said that you have configured the Eclipse, it means you also already make the integration with Lomboz and Tomcat or another plugin? I think you could help in this first steps with Anita and it is wonderful but in the another steps like the integration JUnit, Maven and CVS Calvin would assigned other person, since we know that you have a huge knowlege with J2EE enviroment and your topic with Hibernate is also a big topic.
 

About the database, design we need the requirements from Calvin since we need to know what kind of information we will deal in this system. Example, what question the director of the department could do for the system that its could answer? We need have these questions, very very clear and if possible, using Use Cases. Talking about time, I think that in two weeks from now, about 9/28th, we should start with the database design. Our problem right now is technology and as fast as we have some results in that area, the anothers will be easier (but not easy) to build.

 

I'm also very happy that you get some results with JDBC using MySQL, good job! Your suggestion about remote access is also very nice! I hope we get, but if is not possible we have to have the MySQL in our home or office, as you already know.

 

If you like Bineeta, would you like to share some of your studies about Struts for us?

 

Thank you so much,

 

Renato.

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Almost forgot, Do you and Christine can go to the meet today?

[Pratibha Nori]

Hi Renato, Calvin and everyone,

I think as per our previous meeting with Calvin it was decided to meet on Friday at 2.00 pm. I just spoke to Bineeta and we will be coming on Friday as decided and not today? Are you free on Friday? Hopefully Christine and others will be able to make it too. Pls confirm this.

I think its better to discuss about the tasks in detail and their implementation in the meeting what do you think? As far as anybody needing any help with  any of the technologies I think we can all help each other as and when the need arises. I can pitch in for the eclipse part too since I have it installed it on my system and I have to configure it anyway.

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Hi Pratibha,

 

The meeting on Friday is confirmed! I go. The meeting today is with the students that would like to know about the project and what the areas they want to work with us. It not affect in nothing our discussion until now. We can continue in the same way. If you can't go, I think no have problems. Could be good just if you (Pratibha, Bineeta and Christine) would like to say something else about the project and about your own experience. Again, I know that would be difficult to you attend this meeting today, if you can't go, no problem. We just let you know later about the discussion.
 

Pratibha, like you said, since everyone need make the configuration, we can help each other to make this job more confortable. But we need a person that could concetrate in this activities meanwhile we continue with the work with the development of one template for Struts using the Design Patterns. What we need right now is make the configuration with Eclipse integrating with Lomboz and Tomcat. The other plugins is for help us in our productivity and organization, but is not so urgent right now for who have the rule to develop this template that I talked about. I will create threads which all of us could put the doubts about the project like Struts, Eclipse configuration, Design Patterns, etc I'm thinking organize each topic separately. We also could create a forum for each topic, but for know I think a thread is enough. For who don't use Gmail, I think is a good idea start. Have this resource of thread that I talked about. Calvin is the specialist in that area, for who don't have an account in Gmail because, in order to be possible get access, you need a invitation from a person that already have it.

 

Thank you,

 

Renato.

[Anita Shanker]

 I'm a little confused.  Is there a meeting both Wednesday night and Friday?  Are they to discuss different things?  Also, do we have weekly meetings?

 Anita

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Date:  Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:04:26 -0700 (PDT)

[Anita Shanker]

 OK...I got the message that answered the initial two questions.  I'll be able to come on Friday!

 Anita

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Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:22:26 -0400

[Calvin Webster]

Sorry for the confusion Anita;

I have been a little vague in the meetings.

Tonight's meeting is with the Graduate Students in Library
Science....to talk more on the project with Renato...and any team
member not a graduate student is still welcome to attend.

Since you are just starting, if you can make this meeting, tonight at
8pm...it might be beneficial to you and a better understanding of the
project.

This Friday we are having a general meeting of all team members which
will be more task delegation and requirements given.

The graduate students have started basically the same time you have,
so they are still getting a rundown of the project.

I hope this helps

Thanks!
Calvin

[Christine Jackson]

Hello.  I've been very busy with my job search lately.  Sorry I couldn't reply earlier.  I don't know much about Hibernate, but I can start reading about it.  According to this email everybody is going to be assigned to one particular area and only work within that area.  But I guess we all need to have a little bit of knowledge about the other areas that we are not assigned so we can understand what's going on overall.  Should I only download the tools that I will be working with?  Is tonight (Wed, 9/14) the meeting with the grad students?  Thanks.

 

-Christine J.

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Hi Christine,

 

I hope that you have luck with your seach.

I will answer and if Calvin or anyone would like to complement, be free.

Is precisely what you said. Each one will work within the area which was assigned. It's very important for the organization of the project.
If you take a look in the e-mails that I had sent, I always tried put the message that everyone will learn everything. Just these next weeks,

we need put a organized plan to be possible start the project and reach our deadlines (Calvin can talk better about that).

I know that you don't have experience with Hibernate, but you have a very good skill in Database and Java. For this role, is your

knowledge that we need. Also, your are assigned to Struts, and it's not fews thing to research about. But everyone will learn about

Design Patterns, requirements, architecture and of course, we will need you help again when we begin the database design. If

will advance with your tasks and are interest in another, be free to let us know.

 

If you have any comments, please, send me e-mail.

 

Thank you.

 

Renato.

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Hi Christine,

 

I hope that you have luck with your seach.

I will answer and if Calvin or anyone would like to complement, be free.

Is precisely what you said. Each one will work within the area which was assigned. It's very important for the organization of the project.
If you take a look in the e-mails that I had sent, I always tried put the message that everyone will learn everything. Just these next weeks,

we need put a organized plan to be possible start the project and reach our deadlines (Calvin can talk better about that).

I know that you don't have experience with Hibernate, but you have a very good skill in Database and Java. For this role, is your

knowledge that we need. Also, your are assigned to Struts, and it's not few things to research about. But everyone will learn about

Design Patterns, requirements, architecture and of course, we will need you help again when we begin the database design. If

will advance with your tasks and you are interest in another, be free to let us know.

 

If you have any comments, please, send me e-mail.

 

Thank you.

 

Renato.

[Bineeta Sinha]

Hi Everyone,

              Sorry for delay response. I have configured Eclipse with Tomcat. I agree with Renato's suggestion regarding with database but we have to install tools and technologies  so that we can start at some point.  Anyway we have a meeting on Friday so we can discuss about the issue we have.

 

Regards

Bineeta

 

[Renato da Silva Viana]

Hi Bineeta and everyone,

 

Bineeta, thank you for your feedback. Tomorrow we can talk better about the gap in the project, like you said.

 

I also would like to make a strong recommendation about what we will talk about. I know that we have a lot of subject. Since

we don't have many time, is better that the priorities come first. What are the priorities for our discussion? I would suggest:

 

1. Deadlines;

1.1 Doubts about deadines;

2. Assignation;

2.1 Doubts about assignation;

3. Status about advances (Who do what);

3.1 Doubts about status;

4. Align the knowledge about the project's architecture among the participants;

5. Align the knowledge about the methodologies and technologies

 

Appreciate your feedback,

 

Renato.
 

[ldemps...@mail.nccu.edu]

Calvin,

The document FASC-team members has us listed as graduate students in
the MLS, but we are all in the MIS (Masters of Information Science)
program.

Thanks, Lisa

[Calvin Webster]

I apologize for that typo...i will make the necessary changes.

thanks Lisa!