E+ City Specs

[E+ Bike]

E+ City was introduced at Interbike 2008 in September.

Spec Sheets are attached.

MSR Prices are as follows:

E+ City (24V, 550W): $2295
E+ City (36V, 550W): $2595

Highlights are as follows:

1. Up to 20 miles range (up to 25 miles range with 36 Volt battery
upgrade) with little pedaling.
2. Two Power Modes: Maximize range in "Distance Mode" (riding mode
1), maximize continuous power in "Tour Mode" (riding mode 2)
(delivers 550 watts continuous power).
3. Two Exercise Modes Work out lightly in excercise mode -1 or get
a hard work out in excercise mode -2. Each mode recharges battery up
to 250 watts.

Motor:
Power: 550 Watts (17.5 mph top speed)
Torque: 60 Nm (0 to 12.5 mph @ 8s)
Brushless & Gearless (No maintenance required, virtually silent)

Battery:
24 Volts (up to 20 miles range with little pedaling); upgradable to
36 Volt (up to 25 miles range with little pedaling)
Capacity: 10 Ampere-hour

Display/Controller Unit:
LED Backlit LCD Panel
Indicates: Speed, Battery State of Charge, Odometer, Cruise Mode,
Regenerative Mode and Five Riding Levels (two power modes, two
exercise modes and neutral)

Frame Set:
Size: 18" Platinum Silver or Denim Blue
Material: Hydroformed Heat treated Aluminum 6061
Front Suspension: Suntour XCT with Pre-load Adjustment and Lockout

Wheels:
Rims & Spokes: Dual Wall Construction, 26", 36 Hole, 14AWG Spokes
Tires & Tubes: Kenda Keen Tires, Thorn Resistant Shrader Valve Tubes

Drivetrain:
Shifter, Derailleur, Cassette: SRAM
Pedals: Wellgo Alloy Platform
Brakes: Tektro Linear Pull V Brakes

Other Components (Optional):
Rear Rack, Rack Bag with Panniers,
Front and Rear Fenders, Bottle Holder

Gross Vehicle Weight:
330 lbs (Rider & Cargo)

Cruise Control is Standard
Anti-Theft Mode is Standard

Your Friends at Electric Motion Systems

[mike]

I see a gvw(gross vehicle weight) of 330 # but I don't see a weight
for the bike alone.

elephantwalker

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[E+ Electric Bicycles]

Mike:

The vehicle weight is about 55 Lbs.

Best,

Your Friends at Electric Motion Systems

[Stephen Gatlin]

Mike: I have what is called a Moon Saddle for a seat on my bike. They
are gloriously comfortable. It would be a happy thing if these seats
could be an option on the E +. The health effects are documented. They
do not harm everything a conventional seat does.

Stephen Gatlin

[Scotter]

I just saw (and rode!) the 1000W mountain bike version at Alien Scooters
here in Austin Texas! It was fun! Felt powerful!
When I got off and picked it up to see how heavy, it felt almost twice as
heavy as my 52 pound Trek w/BionX kit. I'll be riding by there later today
so I'll stop in again and put my bike next to the E+ bike and pick them up
and ask someone else to and get an opinion. My guess right now, though, is
that the E+ I rode was about 80 lbs.

Scotter
sc...@oceanmedia.net

[WD]

55 lbs.? even with the heavier batteries? that's fabulous. Is that the
weight for all models?

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From: "E+ Electric Bicycles" <eplus...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:17 PM
To: "E+ Electric Bicycle Forum" <EplusElect...@googlegroups.com>

Subject: {E+ Electric Bicycle} Re: E+ City Specs

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[E+ Electric Bicycles]

WD:

The weights of the other models are as follows:

Mountain Bike - 65 Lbs. Approx.
Cruiser - 70 Lbs. Approx.

Your Friends at Electric Motion Systems

On Oct 24, 1:47 pm, "WD" <teamwor...@msn.com> wrote:
> 55 lbs.? even with the heavier batteries? that's fabulous. Is that the
> weight for all models?
>
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> From: "E+ Electric Bicycles" <eplusby...@gmail.com>

[Scotter]

OK I rode the 1000W Mountain Bike E+ at Alien Scooters again just now. I
wanted to see how it did on hills and bumps. Fantastic!

Is it me or does the E+ not have an auto-assist mode? Do you always need to
use the throttle in order to get motor assistance while peddling? I'm asking
because I feel a bit spoiled by my BionX, the way it senses effort and gives
me power accordingly, depending on what assist mode I have it in. I can also
choose to use the throttle at any time. I didn't find that "mode" on the E+
but then I didn't spend a ton of time riding it.

Now, again, before I rag on E+ a bit, I want to say the bike was super fun
to ride and powerful! And KUDOS for coming up with putting the battery in
the front hub! What a wonderful idea! When is Lithium Ion coming?

I wanted to lift my bike and immediately life the E+. Felt about twice as
heavy. Then a guy at the store told me it was 75 lbs. That makes sense. I
tried to peddle the bike with no assistance and the thing is so freakin
heavy! Yet another reason to (a) get with the lithium ion program; (b) offer
kit so we can add kit to super light mountain bike frames; and (c) offer
another version that is built by E+ using super light frames. Sure, it will
cost more money but some of us are willing to pay!

I'm guessing maybe the E+ guys, when they say 55 lbs., are being a little
sneaky and telling you the frame weight or the weight without the battery or
something.
Or maybe they are telling us the weight of their lightest bike... ?
After all, their words are "The vehicle weight is about 55 Lbs.".
Come on, E+. You have a great product. Do you need to be shifty with your
language? How about someone talks to us who is not a sneaky sales person?
How about one of your engineers?

Finally: I told the guys at Alien Scooters I'd love it if they could do a
"real world" test to see the range on the bike. And by real world I mean not
ridden on flat with tail wind by a midget gymnast with a pointed head.

Scotter
sc...@oceanmedia.net

[ebike...@gmail.com]

I have owned a 1000W for sometime now. I ride it for 30 miles
everyday.

A couple of things I want to point out:

1. The E+ system does not have pedal assist. It is all throttle
controlled. I tried several pedelac bikes. Never really liked them too
much.
2. E+ Weight is never really an issue. When I feel a need to pedal I
reduce my setting to #1 and it is quite convenient to pedal. When I
need to pedal for exercise I set it up to -1.
3. I get about 25 miles with my riding style.

john

[E+ Electric Bicycles]

Stephen:

Moon Saddle is a great recommendation. We will definitely add that as
an option to our offering.

Here is the link to Moon Saddle:

http://www.moonsaddle.com/

Here are some of the features from their web site:

Features

*Most comfortable bike saddle ever built
*Waterproof and scuff resistant
*Lightweight with low maintenance
*Moon Saddle's design utilizes the natural support system of the
skeleton and includes several anatomy-friendly features
*Engineered to fit everyone: youth to adult anatomies
*140,000 lb. tensile strength stainless steel tubing
*Satisfaction guaranteed

Approved by Physicians

Scientific evidence proves that saddles with "noses" cause erectile
dysfunction in males and suggests that females may also have health
issues with traditional seats.

The retail cost is about $84.25

Your Friends at Electric Motion Systems

[Heather Crombie]

I use the cruise control for the majority of my ride to work which is
around 20 miles each way for a total of around 40 miles every day.
Cruise control automatically adjusts the power output to maintain my
speed when I slow down my peddling. The cruise control is accessed via
the C button on the control unit. It works just like a car's cruise
control. It is deactivated by engaging the brakes. Cruise mode is
ignored via input from the throttle or coasting downhill & reaching a
higher speed. Although I use a 750 watt engine, I doubt the cruise
control feature is any different on the 1,000 watt motor.

My mountain bike weight has always been represented by EMS as 65lbs. I
wouldn't want to carry it up several flights of stairs but its very
manageable for putting on my car rack (trail hitch height) & taking it
up the few steps onto my front porch. I lifted my road bike up for the
first time in several months yesterday & was amazed by its lightness.
After riding my E+ for several months, I just got used to its extra
weight. I now prefer its ride to my Sequoia's for my commute. The
weight now feels appropriate for all the gear I typically carry &
safer on the portion of my commute that is a road for construction
vehicles. I would always walk that portion of my commute when I was on
my road bike. On the E+, I'll typically cruise the huge gravel bits at
about 5 miles per hour.

[Michael Fernandez]

Scooter,

Maybe your confusion about the weight is because this topic is on the E+ City Specs, not a Mountain BIke. The E+ City is a alot smaller than the Mountain BIke which you test rode.  

 

 

Michael

[Heather Crombie]

I just saw a picture of the E+City bike on the EMS site. I like the
silver hubs. Its a sweet looking ride. When do you expect to have
more about it up on the site?

[Electric Motion Systems]

Hi Heather:

We expect the E+City to be available in the Spring of 2009. However we
are taking orders now.

Best,
Rakesh

[Kevin Lee]

Will you be offering solid tires so that we don't
have to bother with punctures?

Greentyre (www.greentyre.com) offers solid
tires. There are probably other suppliers.

[E+ Electric Bicycles]

Kevin:

This is a great recommendation. We will definitely explore this. Thank
You for sharing.

Here is a story from their website re greentyres:

***Louis treks across Aussie desert with the help of Greentyres***
Link: http://www.greentyre.co.uk/news.html
Hi Greentyre,

I'm just back from Australia (so in Belgium now) I recevied the tyres
just in time :-)
They made it through the desert (with the entire desert cart) and so
did I. I became the first person to walk across the length of the most
arid desert of Australia.

The news was quickly picked up by most of the papers in australia.
And the 3 last days I'm in all papers in Belgium, my parents on
national TV, another radio interview yesterday upon arrival and
another TV national with me will be scheduled soon.
I will send some photos of the tyres how they look now.
Thanks again for the quick reply etc... Greentyre can be proud to have
a product that made it possible to cross this desert !
I'm happy of my engineering choice and concept used to make this
crossing possible.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,24226142-662,00.html
*** End of Story ***

Your Friends at Electric Motion Systems

[Stephen Gatlin]

Guys: Could you explain to a layman the nature of these "tubeless"
tyres? Are they solid rubber? Or are they a thick tube? Or what? I
have been advised by bike shops in the US to stay away from them. But
I'm stubborn. I want to know more, especially riding a cushioned
Moulton. Will your web-site help? Or do I need special assistance? :)

Many thanks,

Stephen Gatlin, Ph.D.