Introduction/Hillary Clinton's Electoral Fraud

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sgun...@uci.edu

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Apr 22, 2016, 11:44:05 PM4/22/16
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Hello all,

My name is Spencer Gundert. I'm a college student writing an article about Hillary Clinton's electoral fraud. I've read as much of Richard Charnin's blog and the Election Integrity website as I can and I've found evidence to support all their claims. What I'm looking for now is as much collective evidence as possible. I'm trying to have as iron-clad of a case as possible, so that I can spread news of it as far as I can. Do you have more evidence of Hillary committing electoral fraud that you can inform me of or point me to? If so, that would be amazing. Any evidence you share I will look at and research.

Thank you,
Spencer

Josh Mitteldorf

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Apr 23, 2016, 12:01:10 AM4/23/16
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Welcome, Spencer!
    There is no direct evidence - only statistical inference.  Over the years, whoever is doing this has become better at covering their tracks.  One implication is that we really have no idea if Hillary even knows about what is going on.  There are many people, including Republicans, who might think it is in their interest to quash Sanders, and could be tampering with elections independent of the Clinton campaign.
- Josh

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Apr 23, 2016, 1:06:20 AM4/23/16
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Spencer --
 
Good to see that you're interested in and presumably concerned about this. There is not much question that fraud has been committed, in fact over and over again since roughly the time of your birth. I would caution, however, against identifying any apparent beneficiary (Clinton, GW Bush, hundreds of down-ballot electees, e.g.) as the perpetrator. Electoral fraud favoring Hillary Clinton is not necessarily "Hillary Clinton's electoral fraud."
 
There is a parade of bad actors who, if they disagree about other things, are unanimous in their determination that the likes of Bernie Sanders not be elevated to the presidency. Electoral fraud, especially the most direct species which is manipulation of the computerized counting process, is dependent on means and access as well as motive and a full suspension of ordinary ethics. The evidence indicates that it has been occurring with stunning regularity long before this election and in thousands of contests in which Hillary Clinton and her backers had no stake or involvement.
 
If you want a more likely perp, you might begin by examining the activities of Karl Rove, the late Mike Connell, the Urosevich brothers, the vendors (Dominion, ES&S, at one time Diebold, et al) and their shadowy satellite subsidiaries (LHS, Triad, Command Central, etc.). This is a vastly bigger story than the anomalies of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries, though that's a good starting point as it appears that the rigging has been particularly egregious, though not necessarily, as I said, by Clinton or her campaign.
 
Wishing you the best --
 
Jonathan Simon
Executive Director, Election Defense Alliance

arlene Montemarano

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Apr 23, 2016, 8:51:33 AM4/23/16
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Bravo Spencer!!  There is no more important subject than this.  This election, and this election fraud that is stealing it from the people of America.

Exposure is what is needed most.

Spencer David Gundert

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Apr 23, 2016, 8:51:33 AM4/23/16
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As an addendum, I am including Richard Charnin's blog as a linked source repeatedly in my article, so that parties/people interested in researching electoral fraud further can see his findings (and thus Electoral Integrity's findings) on previous fraud.

On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 12:43 AM, Spencer David Gundert <sgun...@uci.edu> wrote:
Thank you for your responses! I'm going to change my angle from electoral fraud committed by Hillary Clinton to electoral fraud committed for Hillary Clinton (that way the blame shifts to the overall issue instead of one person). My end goal is that by focusing on this issue, hopefully people will dig deeper, independent investigations will occur if the article gets enough notice, and the electoral fraud that's been occurring over the years will get exposed. It might also lead to pressure from other countries to have fair elections too. I'm going to start by focusing on just the electoral fraud for Clinton (because the article is already going to be really long) and then research all of what you both suggested, writing that in a later article.

Thank you again!
Spencer
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