Question about Sutra School stages of awareness

[Sara J]

Hello Rinpoche,

I believe you explained this morning that people pass through four
phases of awareness on their way to the truth: invalid forms of
awareness (where presumably the person doesn't realize their view is
incorrect), doubt (where the person starts to realize their view might
not be correct), assumption (where the person has a belief which
accords with the truth but the person doesn't yet have direct
perception of the truth), and valid awareness (where the person has
direct understanding of the truth). I would like to know if I have
summarized this correctly, because a light bulb went off in my head
when you explained this. It struck me that in the two phases where
the person is most certain in their belief, they are either way off
base (invalid), or very close to the truth (assumption). So it would
seem that we have to be very careful, whenever we are confident of our
opinion, to realize that we could be quite right, but we could also be
very wrong and simply haven't progressed to the "doubt" stage yet. I
wonder how we can tell the difference? I would be interested to hear
your thoughts on this (if what I say makes any sense ;o)

Regards,
Sara

[Judy Roberts]

Thank you for that, Sara.... well put!  Judy

[Nina Ruelas]

Hi Sara

Very well put.....however i am still reeling by the complexity of these teachings


Love

Nina

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Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 17:27:47 -0700
From: judyrob...@gmail.com
To: Dharma...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about Sutra School stages of awareness

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[Ron Roberts]

It really encourages me to examine (doubt) what I hold to be true. So much is based on assumption that does NOT accord with the truth.

 

ron

[Samlo Khenchen Rinpoche]

Hi Sara
Thank you so much for your question and I am very glad to give you answer but I didn't understand clear about your question, (Because of my perfect English) so We will discuss more on that  coming Sunday (hopefully i have a answer which you asked me, I am not sure). Also I am very happy that you sangha were quiet a understood about Mind and its function. See you coming Sunday and we will debate, how about that?

Your Friend
Khenchen Rinpoche




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[Sara Jotoku]

Hello Rinpoche - a discussion/debate sounds very good (on this and other questions/comments I'm sure sangha members have).  Is there any chance we could discuss a little on Wednesday as well?  I can't attend this coming Sunday due to a conflict but was hoping to attend Wednesday evening.  If not, I will ask sangha members to give me an update the following week.  :o)

 

Regards,
Sara