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Animal Responsibility Cyprus
Στέλλα σε χαιρετώ
Αυτό που μου έστειλες σχετικά με την αστυνομία ήδη το γνωρίζω γιατί είμαστε στην Βουλή στην πρώτη συνεδρίαση. Μου το έχει στείλει το ίδιο πράγμα η Μαίρη πριν λίγες μέρες. Tx anyway
Κυριάκος Κυριάκου
ARC/ΚΙΒΩΤΟΣ
P.O.Box 56986,
3311 Limassol
Cyprus
"Voice of the Voiceless"
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Animal Responsibility Cyprus
Hi There
I don't understand why you send this email about animal police. Despite the efforts of CVA I never agreed from the beginning about this. I have express my opinion a million time that there is no chance to do so. On the other hand why when we have the Animal Welfare Committees we are trying to find other solutions? Animal Welfare committees if they are working properly and in cooperation with police many cruelty cases will be ended successfully. Cyprus system and the police system will never allowed to happen ie to have an animal police. Any way if M.Anastasti would like to discuss this issue again with me no problem.
My best regards
Kyriacos Kyriacou
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nicolaos nicolaides
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Animal Responsibility Cyprus
The reason I say it, Nicos is because I believe there is no separate animal police force in any country. Certainly the UK have a Wildlife Crime unit.
One of the first things we learned from the experts was to tackle something that had the possibility to actually succeed.
I see so many people posting unrealistic petitions that can never succeed and thus diffuse efforts that could possibly succeed.
Also Animal Welfare law is so extensive and requires a lot of scientific knowledge (factory farms – (stress/cortisol levels etc), exotic captives etc). Your average policeman/woman had neither the necessary personal qualities nor intellectual capacity.
I suppose the ‘animal lovers’ are those who love dogs/cats and to hell with the rest. They make me fed up and say grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Kind regards
P
Stella Stylianou
In response to the comments below from ARC– CVA will respond officially on their website and facebook in the next couple of days
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Stella Stylianou
WHY THE ANIMAL POLICE SQUAD IN CYPRUS IS PUT ON HOLD FOR THE PRESENT
CVA has, in the last month or so, circulated an update on the recent meeting with the Minister of Justice regarding its long-standing petition for the establishment of an Animal Welfare Police Unit. The circular stated that the government at present is unable to progress the set-up of this squad due to the imposed moratorium as a result of the economic recession. There are 300 vacant positions in the police force waiting to be filled but new staff cannot be employed and the government will opt for an internal shuffling of staff instead.
For many years now, CVA has been active in lobbying and petitioning the government regarding the establishment of this specialized police unit which is the only way to effectively address the serious and escalating problem of animal abuse. It is only fair to mention that Minister Ionas Nicolaou during our meeting admitted that he had originally supported this idea but for now, opted for the neighbourhood police implementation due to the bad state of affairs the police finances were in.
However, as surprising as this is, there is opposition to the CVA petition by Kyriacos Kyriacou and Patrizia Kyriacou who head the ARC organization and state that the Cyprus system and the police system will never allow the creation of an animal police squad. They further state that it is futile to seek alternative solutions when we have the district animal welfare committees whereby if they work properly and in cooperation with the police, many cruelty cases will be solved successfully.
Since the enactment of the Animal Welfare Law, these committees have been entirely ineffective due to the fact that their services are given on a voluntary basis and the present constitution of this 9-member committee has never been interested in helping out with any cases involving cruelty, abandonment or illegal breeding farms (apart from some members who clearly belong to animal welfare societies) . WHY – because the members comprise of the following:
1. The District government vet
2. Representative of the municipality
3. Private Vets representative
4. Animal Welfare organization representative
5. Canine Association representative
6. Representative from each of the farm breeder associations, cattle, pigs etc.
a) When have the cattle breeder associations been interested in implementing
animal welfare when they are the first to violate the animal welfare laws?
b) When have private vets ever reported to the police a customer that has violated
the animal welfare law, i.e. mutilating a dog in trying to dock its ears?
c) when has a breeder ever surrendered the name of a customer found to have
abandoned his dog?
With the EXCEPTION of the animal welfare organizations, can any of the above people be regarded as competent to assist / support in any official investigation against animal cruelty? We hardly think so as all of them have the promotion of their own interests at heart, the majority does not even turn up at the ad hoc meetings so these committees have proven themselves ineffective in implementing or furthering animal welfare issues.
In no instance can the District Animal Welfare Committees substitute the role of the Animal Welfare police which is more composite and integral.
But, Kyriacos and Patrizia Kyriacou of ARC Limassol insist that these committees can still work when it has been established that in the 19 years since their enactment, the consensus of opinion is that they should be disbanded in favour of the Animal Welfare police squad. But Mrs. Patrizia Kyriacou asserts that there is no separate animal police force in any country and that posting ‘unrealistic petitions’ will diffuse efforts that could possibly succeed. She further asserts that “as animal welfare law is extensive and requires scientific knowledge which your average policeman/woman does not have the necessary personal qualities nor intellectual capacities.”
“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” Martin Luther King Jr.
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Animal Responsibility Cyprus
Reply to Stella Stylianou from Patricia Kyriacou September 3, 2013
I was surprised to see my name on this email. I hope it is not a Press Release and that it is just an email, as it completely misrepresents my thoughts about the Cyprus Animal Welfare Committees. Does this make it slander?
I do not normally get involved with animal people who are always fighting; I stay strictly away. But when I see my position mis-stated without the writer having checked with me as journalistic principles require, I need to respond with my personal position.
a) Local animal welfare committees
I had no faith in the creation of these committees back in 1994, I believe. The Head of Veterinary at the time said that Cyprus was adopting a ‘Scandinavian’ model. It was obvious to me that this was just a way to avoid creating an effective infrastructure that would handle the ENFORCEMENT of the 1994 law. They could do the committees spending almost no money instead, and say they had done something. People with no interest in or knowledge of the science and law of animal welfare were on these committees. Most of the time they never turned up for meetings, or just argued about dogs and cats.
At the same time, if there was ONE serious person on the committee, they might personally be able to achieve a little. So my opinion of these committees – useless. Again, this is my personal opinion based on what I know.
b) Animal Welfare Police.
Effective advocates are taught to aim for what is achievable. Animal police is not. The country is on the verge of bankruptcy. By putting efforts into something unachievable, efforts are not being directed into an achievable aim. Also the lack of knowledge that has accompanied many Facebook/ email posts is unbelievable. People totally misunderstand what the RSPCA is and is not; what the EU institutions are and are not. It’s like a child demanding to be given a ten-litre carton of ice cream to eat.
Once again, this is my personal opinion; it does not represent the position of ARC, which may differ in some respects.
Stella Stylianou
Reply to Patricia Kyriacou on email below – September 3 2013 –
Just to set the record straight –
1) the email circulated by CVA was not a Press Release but a reply to yours and Kyriacos’s comments on the CVA Press Release about the establishment of an animal welfare police unit.
2) Erroneous statements are indeed considered slanderous but in this case CVA have quoted you and Kyriacos verbatim.
3) We considered our response necessary as your original comments on the circulation of the CVA press release were superfluous
Local animal welfare committees
You admit that the creation of these committees was a waste of time from the beginning and would prove ineffective in the long run. If not an animal welfare police unit, what other effective system in your opinion could we strive to achieve?
Animal Welfare Police
Initially I would like to mention that these units are established in the USA, Malta and lately, Belgium has boasted of the establishment of this unit.
Ten years ago when we first started campaigning for this, the country was not bankrupt but because animal welfare was never at the top of any government body’s agenda, progress has been slow but not static. However, this doesn’t mean that we have to give up the fight for what we and the majority of the population see as the only effective means of addressing a problem that has become a scourge to our society and has the potential to damage severely the country’s tourist trade. Sooner or later, politicians will realise the necessity of this specialised force and must concede to the public’s will and the only way to go about this is through a united lobby.
The difference between reality and a pipe dream is the effort.
Stella Stylianou
Secretary to CVA
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