Possible aread of focus, your passion or concerns, and interest, etc., for Haiti?
Deborah
to this effort....this is meant to just start the generation and
flowing of ideas....
Deborah
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From: "Susan Cothern" <journey...@comcast.net>
To: dsha...@comcast.net, "Joel Vander Weele"
<joel.van...@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:43:48 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
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Subject: FW: Calling People Protocol
You might consider if this is something on which CampChi could focus….
See Mark*Lugo’s comments on the thread below.
From: person...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:person...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MARK*LUGO
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:31 AM
To: person...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Calling People Protocol
I witnessed that many simple injured folks need help too... These
simple injury can actually kill a person is left untreated. If we can
We can we get a similar application going for INJURED people.
We need:
LOCATION OF INJURED: address, tent location.
TYPE OF INJURY: Cut, bruise, etc.
CONTACT INFO.
STATUS of medical attention: i.e. needs anit-bot relaod 1/22/10. etc.
can you repost this? Thanks
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:07 AM, Stuart Moffatt
<stuart...@gmail.com> wrote:
A note on the cbc.ca site:
It's not entirely intuitive where the data is being collected. I found
this page:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourvoice/photogalleries/haiti/
You post a picture of a missing person, then add a comment
(potentially very unstructured) below it.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Eyal Fink <ey...@google.com> wrote:
Is that Thu 11am PST (the time this mail was sent make 'tomorrow' in
conclusive)
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Tim Schwartz <tima...@gmail.com>
wrote:
All,
I would like to start a discussion tomorrow in Skype at 11AM PST about
a certain scenario:
Over the next few days we are going to have volunteers chomping
through 2 sets of unstructured data and putting them into
PersonFinder. 3000 records from the forums that didn't all make it
over during last week's CrisisCamp and 500 records that are coming via
SMS directly from Haiti. There is a chance when someone is converting
a record that the person is already updated in google as "Found". What
should we do at this point?
-nothing
-enter the seekers info into google and do nothing
-enter the info into google and click a button that doesn't exist yet
that says "needs a call back"
-enters the phone number into a field in the converter application
that sends an sms msg for saying "information about your loved one is
posted at haiticrisis.appspot.com/"
-????
Please ping me on skype to be included in the discussion: timatron3000
Lastly, the volunteer site is up and working, we had 285 records from
CBC.CA entered into PersonFinder today. We are also collecting
volunteer's contact info so we can contact them back when there is a
lot of work to be done. If you have volunteers ready to work please
direct them here to add their info:
http://www.haitianquake.com/converter/
-tim
Deborah
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From: "Susan Cothern" <journey...@comcast.net>
To: "Deborah Shaddon" <dsha...@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:06:04 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
Central
Subject: FW: PersonFinder: One Week In, We Need ICRC
Deborah:
Read your summation email to Crisis Commons et al of our efforts
yesterday. You
rock! I'll be sharing the FB group today with many others and,
collaborating
with you, on the hunt for a place to meet. Sounded like you're taking
the
Twitter/tweet piece. Can you confirm?
Just thought I'd forward one of the emails below from the peoplefinder
google
group to you vis-à-vis what we were briefly discussing last night,
i.e. how will
the tech factor and the human factor interface and effectively
communicate to
efficiently utilize the tools? This appears to be an issue which may
become
pervasive and, in some cases, a showstopper to efficiently rolling out
and using
the newly created tech. My personal feeling is that this will get
worse before
it gets better and will impact more than just the peoplefinder group.
As you'll
note from para 2, they have an issue with the Red Cross.
Just doing a brain dump as I write.....with the intent that we will
meet on
Saturday, one thing of value I think the two of us can do ahead of
time is to
put together a high level agenda for the meeting. Part of that agenda
may be
(after we receive feedback from Crisis Commons re their guidance on
the purpose
and scope of our group per your email request) listing out/detailing
some of the
issues/needs we're perceiving on which our group could focus. Kind of
start the
ball rolling and then let the group take over during discussion....
So, summarizing Saturday meeting requirements we've identified to
date:
1. Room to accommodate approx. 20 with wifi, whiteboards (and
whiteboard
markers...or we will have to bring our own), bathrooms, and speaker
phone(s).
Coffee needs to figure into requirements somewhere...even if it's
across the
street, etc. IMHO, that's a 'must have' requirement. Suggest also the
room must
have 3-4 outlets (at least) so we can alternate recharging laptops.
2. Meeting Agenda
3. Probably all of us in attendance will have iphones, etc. with
camera
capabilities. We need to get some images of both the white board(s)
and candid
shots of the meeting itself to post on various CHI sites from time-to-
time as
this group unfolds. We could also use these images if we decide we
want to bring
a media presence into the mix. If we do decide to do that, my oldest
daughter
is a journalist/writer and in advertising. She could assist/
facilitate in
guidance re a media blitz.
One other thought/question for you while I'm doing this brain dump...
Would it
be a value add, no matter what we're working on, to have a Haitian
American
people component either present or available to tap into in order to
understand
more clearly the Haitian perspective and how to most effectively
navigate some
of the challenges? Let me know what you think.
One of the aldermen in Rogers Park is Louis Jean-Baptiste. (As a
matter of
interest, Rogers Park has the 2nd largest Haitian American population
in the
US). Jean-Baptiste is also president of the Haitian American Congress
in
Chicago. I had already sent him an email a few days ago, but am still
awaiting
his response. One of the things I'm going to do today is reach out to
another
alderman in the ward, Joe Moore, who I'm certain knows Jean-Baptiste
and can
possibly facilitate some communication with him or others. May even
walk over
to Moore's office today and see if I can catch him as it's only a few
blocks
from where I live.
Have a great day! Talk to you later.
Susan
-----Original Message-----
From: person...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:person...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Schwartz
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:56 AM
To: crisis...@googlegroups.com
Cc: person...@googlegroups.com
Subject: PersonFinder: One Week In, We Need ICRC
ICRC Where We Stand
Specifically we have been scraping them every 30 minutes and inserting
any changes in their system into PersonFinder. Last night they changed
the whole layout of their site and broke our scrapers. Chen Li's team
at UCI worked tirelessly all day to get a new scraper up and running.
They did and the new data will be integrated in the morning along with
a new system for updating PersonFinder records with ICRC data every 15
minutes.
I implore any of you that have any connection at the Red Cross to try
and try again to get us in contact with them. It is disappointing that
we have the two largest systems out there not able to talk to one
another, but that is just what the ICRC's site is: lacking
communication in both the programming sense and the human relations
sense.
Below is the text that was posted to http://blog.ushahidi.com/ late
tonight summing up this week's efforts.
PeopleFinder: One Week In
So we just completed our eigth day straight of working on all things
related to Tech + Missing People and we've learned a lot and
accomplished even more. From day one it was clear that the first big
hurdle was going to be consolidation and getting players in line with
each other. By the end of day 1 there were 4 main sites that we're
tracking missing persons data: a forum, CNN, ICRC (red cross
affiliate) and haitianquake.com, one week later we have the
PersonFinder application that has the data of the following sites
within it:
International Committee of the Red Cross - Family Links
CNN iReport
New York Times
Miami Herald
Canadian Broadcast Corporation
HaitianQuake.com
All of these sites have integrated with the PersonFinder application,
adopting its API and using it as the repository. All except for one,
the Red Cross, we have put in emails and phone calls to them at the
top of the top and no one will answer. Instead we have had to create
custom scrapers that crawl their site night and day to keep
PersonFinder application up to date on their information.
The plan was smart and simple from the beginning. Make ONE
consolidated data base of all of the people affected by the
earthquake. Build the repository with easy inputs and outputs so
numerous applications could utilize it's architecture. We've done
that, now we're just waiting for more applications, so Devs please
talk to us. We are here with all the information and we play well with
others. We're waiting for an efficient android application, sms
outputs, iphone app, twitter feeds, what can you think of?
There are so many people that have pushed on this effort but of course
I need to thank Google for pulling up their belt and taking this on
with force. And to all of you working on the data, working on the
initial products, working on sms integration, or volunteering to
convert records into the repository: THANK YOU!
See you on the interwebs,
Tim Schwartz
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Luke Beckman
<lukemb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jennifer and Josh,
> I had taken point on connecting with the ICRC from the beginning,
> taking that load off of Tim's hands. I have tried about four people
> who were all supposed to be "the people" in charge of Family Links or
> the part of the ICRC that is overseeing Family Links. I have had no
> success in getting in touch with anybody. I have tried calling and
> emailing, but no luck. I have many friends in the American Red Cross
> and they also tried. Perhaps someone else would have more luck. Tim is
> having discussions with the guys at SDSU who are working on the
> American Red Cross main people finder site (forget the name right
> now). I think Pablo from Google has also made contact. Not positive.
> Either way, they are on the way to linking those databases.
>
> Therefore, to my knowledge, ICRC is the only group out of the loop and
> they will never see any changes made in our system. That is a shame,
> but can anyone else try reaching out to the ICRC? Jennifer, it may be
> best if you try.
>
> Many thanks,
> -Luke
>
> On Jan 20, 9:07 pm, "Jennifer Leaning" <jlean...@hsph.harvard.edu>
> wrote:
>> Dear Josh,
>>
>> Very helpful additions. Who among us should be sure that the info we get
about missing persons (even if we are not proactively trying to set up
a
database) gets transferred to Person Finder?
>>
>> And some form of catch-up link should be established with the ICRC, so that
every few days ICRC knows what Person Finder has, even if ICRC does
not share
back with its data.
>>
>> Maybe all this coordination is happening anyway, and if so pls ignore these
points.
>>
>> Best.
>> Jennifer
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Josh Marcus <jmar...@avencia.com>
>> To: <crisis...@googlegroups.com>
>> Date: 1/20/2010 11:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [CrisisMappers] Fwd: link to ICRC tracing data base
>>
>> Just to share some additional background on what's already happened in terms
>> of missing person databases and integration:
>>
>> There have been a number of efforts to coordinate with ICRC over missing
>> person databases over the last number of days, but I don't think there has
>> been much specific progress. There has been a successful and concerted
>> effort to integrate all of the dozens of missing person databases
>> (understanding that ICRC has a separate process and data confidentiality
>> policies) that are able to share records. Luke Beckman agreed to send some
>> inquiries for the initial integration effort out of a volunteer missing
>> person registry ('haitianquake.com'), and I know Google (who now manages the
>> Person Finder registry) has talked about trying to directly coordinate with
>> ICRC. Given ICRC's obligations, it's not surprising that they can't share
>> data but it would be great if it was possible for them to accept records
>> from external registries.
>>
>> The two registries are somewhat different, in that the Person Finder
>> registry (now coordinated by Google) is able to integrate with other
>> projects and software -- for example, the Haitian embassy and news
>> organizations have integrated this registry. There was an automated import
>> of ICRC records using a web robot approach (reading records off of web
>> pages).
>>
>> In any case, if anyone is thinking about coordinating with ICRC, that person
>> discuss that in the mailing list of other organizations working to
>> coordinate their efforts: person...@googlegroups.com
>>
>> --j
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Jennifer Leaning <jlean...@hsph.harvard.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> > wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>>
>> > Re ICRC: In conflict related humanitarian crises, it is usually UNHCR
>> > working with ICRC--always some issue re their coordination but they are as
>> > institutions used to working with each other. In disasters, sometimes
>> > UNOCHA gets involved. Here I would work with ICRC and take guidance from
>> > them, initially. If they don't see a way for their databases or outreach
to
>> > link up, even loosely, it will probably be because they are extremely
>> > careful re quality control and confidentiality regarding their own data.
>> > That's partly why they run a very good outfit. But even if they are
>> > reluctant to engage directly, they will offer very good advice about how we
>> > might approach others who are working on these issues.
>>
>> > Bottom line, someone from among us (and we should be united and consistent
>> > about who that lead person from the crisis-mappers group will be) should
>> > approach the ICRC North American desk in Washinton DC and see how best to
>> > proceed from there.
>>
>> > See below for best contacts. In the North America office, you can use my
>> > name--"Jennifer Leaning from Harvard suggested we call/contact....."
>>
>> > Jennifer
>>
>> > FOR REGIONAL OFFICE FOR NORTH AMERICA--PROBABLY EASIEST TO REACH NOW
>>
>> > United States
>> > ICRC regional delegation
>> > 1100 Connecticut Avenue, NW
>> > Suite 500
>> > Washington DC 20036
>> > (covers USA and Canada)
>>
>> > Phone: (++1 202) 587 46 00
>> > Fax: (++1 202) 587 46 96
>> > e-mail
>>
>> > Head of delegation: Ms WERNTZ Mary
>> > Media contact person: Mr BARRETT Bernard
>> > Mobile: (++1) 202 361 1566
>> > Language spoken: English/French
>>
>> > FOR HAITI OFFICE BUT THIS INFO IS PRE-DISASTER SO NOT SURE IF IT WORKS
>> > Haïti
>> > ICRC delegation
>> > 1, Impasse Brave rue Mercier Laham
>> > Delmas 60, Mussea
>> > HT 6140, Pétion-Ville
>> > HAITI
>>
>> > Phone: (++509) 2 256 78 24 - 2 510 49 09 - 2 510 49 76
>> > Fax: (++509) 2 256 78 26
>> > e-mail
>>
>> > Head of delegation: Mr CONTI Riccardo
>> > Media contact person: Mr CHARLES Jean Jacob
>> > Mobile: (++509) 3 458 41 86
>> > Languages spoken: English/French
>> > Jennifer
>>
>> > From: Tim Schwartz <timat...@gmail.com>
>> > To: <crisis...@googlegroups.com>
>> > Date: 1/19/2010 8:44 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [CrisisMappers] Fwd: link to ICRC tracing data base
>>
>> > Jerri,
>>
>> > We have been working on this for a week now, most efforts have been
>> > consolidated into google. Everyone should be working with them, if
>> > there anyone that isn't please direct them that way. If you have any
>> > contact with ICRC please send them to us.
>>
>> > Cheers,
>> > Tim
>>
>> > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:41 PM, jerri husch <jerrihu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Dear All,
>> > > There seem to be numerous efforts related to " finding and linking
>> > people"
>> > > going on simultaneously. Is there an institutional lead on this? Is
>> > there
>> > > anyway to begin to link up all the efforts? Is it possible to build
>> > bridges
>> > > and link these "finding" systems?
>> > > best, Jerri
>> > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Patrick Meier (CrisisMappers)
>> > > <patr...@crisismappers.net> wrote:
>>
>> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > >> From: Jennifer Leaning <jlean...@hsph.harvard.edu>
>> > >> Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:54 PM
>> > >> Subject: link to ICRC tracing data base
>> > >> To: Patrick Meier <meier.patric...@gmail.com>
>>
>> >http://www.familylinks.icrc.org/WFL_HTI.NSF/DocIndex/locate_eng?opend...
>>
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