Concentrating dead zones under the most productive deep water-upwelling areas acts as a CDR negative feedback, but much less so in shallow coastal areas.
Whales are part of a negative feedback reducing global warming. Whales are extremely attracted to highly productive upwelling waters, which lie above natural dead zones, in fact this is where they do almost all of their feeding and dumping, generating regional oceanic dead zones in deep waters that are major global carbon sinks.
But to clarify the waters: ALL anthropogenic dead zones are caused by excessive land-based nutrient sources from bad land management: sewage, fertilizers, deforestation, and soil erosion, not by marine mammals!
Natural whale-fueled Dead Zones in the deep ocean can store carbon for very long times, but the anthropogenic ones are killing coastal fisheries globally through harmful algae blooms, toxins, and mass kills.
I saw the impact of the first scientifically-documented human-caused dead zone as a boy, when it killed the coral reefs I used to swim in Kingston Harbour, Jamaica.
Now they are everywhere!
The key is to sustainable ocean dead zone carbon management is to stimulate the deep water upwelling kind, and suppress the coastal pollution kind.
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Subject: Re: [HCA-list] Re: [prag] Re: [CDR] Scientific literature on carbon dioxide removal revealed as much larger through AI-enhanced systematic mapping
Dead zones due to human pollution are growing at an exponential rate.
Remember, a pessimist sees the glass half empty. An optimist half full.
An Engineer says it's overbuilt 2x.
An exponential thinker knows it's just one doubling time to spilling over.
On dead zones.
I was asked about marine mammals being the key source of the key nutrient nitrogen on the eastern seaboard. So i asked Gemini if i was right and as usual it says I'm brilliant. Flattery makes me suspicious tho.
Yes, marine mammals on the Eastern Seaboard, particularly in areas like the Gulf of Maine, can contribute more nitrogen to coastal ecosystems than rivers do.
Here's why:
In essence, while land-based sources are crucial, the "whale pump" demonstrates that marine mammals are also key players in the nitrogen cycle of Eastern Seaboard coastal ecosystems.
marine Eastern seaboard mammals nitrogen more than rivers 2025
Recent studies indicate that marine mammals along the Eastern Seaboard, particularly in the Gulf of Maine, contribute significantly to nitrogen cycling, in some cases exceeding the amount contributed by rivers. This is attributed to a phenomenon called the "whale pump," where whales and seals enhance primary productivity by releasing nutrient-rich fecal plumes near the surface after feeding at depth.
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What is the Gulf of Mexico Dead Zone?
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What is the Gulf of Mexico Dead Zone?
However, the impact of nitrogen extends beyond this natural cycle. Human-caused nitrogen pollution, stemming from sources like agriculture, wastewater, and atmospheric deposition, poses a significant threat to marine ecosystems along the Eastern Seaboard. This excess nitrogen can lead to harmful algal blooms, oxygen-depleted "dead zones," and negatively impact marine life and habitats, including those essential to marine mammals.
While the "whale pump" demonstrates a natural and beneficial contribution of marine mammals to nitrogen cycling, it's crucial to acknowledge the detrimental effects of anthropogenic nitrogen pollution on their environment. Continued research and effective management strategies are essential to mitigate the negative impacts of human-derived nitrogen on these vital marine ecosystems and the mammal populations they support.
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On Thu, Jul 24, 2025, 1:54 PM Peter Fiekowsky <pfi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bruce-
I think you represent a lot of the thinking on this list. Thank you for speaking out.
If and when we demonstrate that OIF, actually N-OIF, nitrogen fixing OIF, operates at less than $1 / ton CO2, would you then say that funders should focus N-OIF?
Who on this list would not be convinced by such a demonstration, and why?
Peter