We need to start growing Direct Air Capture now / (in answer to Why Direct Air Capture Sucks (and not in a good way!) )

106 views
Skip to first unread message

Renaud de RICHTER

unread,
Oct 31, 2022, 1:22:38 PM10/31/22
to Carbon Dioxide Removal
www.linkedin.com /pulse/we-need-start-growing-direct-air-capture-now-leon-di-marco/

We need to start growing Direct Air Capture now

Leon Di Marco 17/10/2022

Consultant - renewable energy and Direct Air Capture

Paul Martin recently wrote a post onlinkedin called Why Direct Air Capture Sucks (and not in a good way!) (copied below)  in which he tries to run a hypothetical sales pitch for the proponents of DAC that goes:

  • there will be fossil CO2 emissions we simply cannot eliminate
  • even once we do reach actual or near-zero fossil CO2 emissions, we'll need to "draw down" CO2 from the atmosphere to avoid the need to cope with global warming long-term
  • renewable energy will be super-abundant and super-cheap one day, so designs predicated on the notion of wasting vast quantities of it aren't as stupid as they might seem on their face

He then spends some time showing that Carbon Capture and Storage technology actually does work for industrial emissions from power plants and other more concentrated sources of CO2. Then he says that it wont work at very low concentrations such as with air.

But he doesnt really answer the points that his sales pitch makes.

Instead, his answer appears to be that the only way that we will be able to compensate for hard to treat emissions from aviation (for example) is to use biofuels, about which he says:

"Yes, the resulting fuels will cost a fortune, but they'll be cheaper than e-fuels, "

and his argument against efuels appears to be that they are costly because they take so much energy to create, which is true. If we make synthetic hydrocarbons the input energy needed to make the hydrogen and react it with carbon dioxide is always going to be higher than the end fuel - there is a lot of waste heat released by that chemical transformation.

(It turns out that the conversion loss is around half of the energy input. But it is a bit worse than as the yield of the type of fuel created by catalysis -such as aviation kerosene- is well below 100%. And then there is the energy needed to capture the necessary CO2 )

The other aspect of his pitch is that DAC is too energy intensive because CO2 in air is very dilute, so it just isn't worth doing. Is that true? No it isn't.

Take the current DAC tech leader, Global Thermostat ( disclaimer: I have no interest in GT) The GT DAC machine uses electrically powered fans to blow air into a box containing exactly the same ceramic filters as are found in car catalytic converters. These substrates are covered with a chemical which absorbs CO2. The box is then closed and that CO2 is released using steam at around 100C, to produce a concentrated stream of CO2 which is separated from the water vapour by condensing it. There is no magic involved, it is a really straightforward reciprocating process. Yes, we have to move a lot of air but the GT machine uses an airspeed of 5 metres per second so the machines are of manageable size - a container size machine will remove about 4000 tons of CO2 annually.

If the heat is supplied by an electrically powered heat pump and the fan power is added on top, the total electric energy needed to create synthetic fuel is well over 10x greater than the energy needed by DAC to remove the CO2 made by burning the fuel in the first place. ( and that is even before the fuel yield factor is taken into account)

So by far the best way to deal with the direct CO2 emissions from aviation is to remove them using DAC - much cheaper than using either efuels or biofuels. If DAC costs $100 per ton to capture and store, a long haul flight ticket will cost less than 25% extra using CO2 removal by DAC.

Ah he will say, that $100 a ton figure is impossible. But is it?

Well we already know that the declared cost of capture for a 1 megaton per year DAC plant designed by Carbon Engineering (currently under construction in the US by Oxy) will work at under $400 a ton, because Oxy have released an engineering estimate to their shareholders. And that is a first of a kind plant which uses a much more complex process than the GT machine. It turns out that GT has commissioned an independent engineering estimate for their own machine which indicates that $50 a ton is possible, depending on the cost of electricity.

Now solar electricity (with storage) in the sunbelt is going to cost around $10 per megawatt hour, and as the GT machine uses under 1MWh per ton, that works out at under $10 a ton.

So $100 a ton is within sight, and the US Department of Energy has already started their Carbon Negative Shot programme which aims to reduce the cost of DAC below $100 per ton within a decade.

Elon Musk has also funded the $100M Carbon Dioxide Removal XPrize which will accelerate that process.

Although total CO2 emissions from flying are around 1bn tons annually, they aren't the only ones that will be around even if we succeed in the huge task of lowering global emissions by 80% by 2050. In fact it looks like we will have to remove between 5 and 10bn tons annually by then to reach net zero and stop that bathtub from overflowing. Is that possible? Nobody knows, but it looks likely that we are going to need at least 1bn tons of DAC based removal by then to make it achievable.

And one of the sternest critics of DAC agrees ( Prof Mark Jacobson from Stanford, who has proposed that all global energy should come from renewables - Wind Water and Sun. He is the co-author of a recent paper which accepts that large scale carbon dioxide removal using technology powered by renewables is likely to be needed by the second half of this century)

Is the energy source for that kind of scale going to be available? Well an estimate made by the Swiss DAC company Climeworks in 2019 showed that a 1bn ton a year DAC plant will need a solar farm of around 2000 square kilometres for its power supply. ( ie less than 50 x 50 km) So that shouldn't be a problem.

Ah says Paul Martin, you are going to use low carbon electricity that will be needed to replace all the energy intensive industry that produces those emissions in the first place. Well, by 2050 most if not all of of the global electric grid and the industry that it will support will be decarbonised anyway. And the electricity that powers DAC will not come from the grid, it will be from dedicated power sources. Solar power is growing so fast that BloombergNEF has projected recently that there will be sufficient PV production capacity by 2025 to deploy around 1Terawatt annually. And 1TW of PV will power around 3 bn tons of CO2 removal a year by DAC.

So what is left of Paul Martin's argument? Not a lot. We have to start growing DAC now - very fast - to get anywhere near the numbers needed to stop that CO2 bathtub from overflowing by 2050. We have no choice.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-direct-air-capture-sucks-good-way-paul-martin/?trackingId=sacvHA7DcJn7Orx52r0alQ%3D%3D

for an excellent (quite long) but straightforward discussion on why we need to remove atmospheric CO2 , see this post by Ryan Orbuch https://www.orbuch.com/carbon-removal/ We Need To Take CO2 Out Of The Sky there are two general approaches to keep warming to below a certain level: Reducing emissions Removing previous emissions from the sky If you remember one thing from this piece, it should be that we need to do both. Gone are the days where optimistic emissions reductions kept us below a 2-degree warming target. ....................................... Conclusion Here’s what I hope you remember from this piece: 10-gigaton-scale negative emissions are necessary in essentially every emissions reduction scenario. We have no choice but to fund, research, and deploy them if we’re serious about keeping warming to 2 degrees; or close to it. We are not even close to on track.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

www.linkedin.com /pulse/why-direct-air-capture-sucks-good-way-paul-martin/

Why Direct Air Capture Sucks (and not in a good way!)

Paul Martin 08/10/2022

Chemical process development expert. Antidote to marketing #hopium . Tireless advocate for a fossil fuel-free future.

You've likely heard the sales pitch before:

  • there will be fossil CO2 emissions we simply cannot eliminate
  • even once we do reach actual or near-zero fossil CO2 emissions, we'll need to "draw down" CO2 from the atmosphere to avoid the need to cope with global warming long-term
  • renewable energy will be super-abundant and super-cheap one day, so designs predicated on the notion of wasting vast quantities of it aren't as stupid as they might seem on their face
  • yeah, I know, that last point wasn't convincing, and it really is stupid right now, but we need to work on it so it's ready when we need it

What am I talking about? Direct air capture- the act of using active mechanical/chemical equipment and vast quantities of renewable energy, in a totally pointless fight against entropy, to try to suck CO2 out of the atmosphere for either durable burial or "use".

You've all seen the images- CGIs of vast rows of giant vacuum cleaners, sucking our sins back out of the atmosphere. Hurray! The deus ex machina solution to climate change has arrived. Go on sinning, folks- keep burning fossils with wanton abandon! Because some day, some bright propellor-heads will find a way to just suck our sins back out of the atmosphere!

Do you see the danger of that fantasy? I certainly do. And as a chemical engineer, I realize how preposterous it is to even think about moving minimum 1600 tonnes of air around mechanically to have the hope of removing 1 tonne of CO2 from it at 416 ppm.

DAC: The Idiot Cousin of Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS)

Let's be crystal clear here: you've likely heard people say things like "CCS doesn't work". They're wrong. CCS works just fine in terms of its real objectives, which are captured in this, the most accurate and concise reference in relation to CCS that I've yet come across:

(Warming- language might make a sailor blush!)

Yes CCS works just fine, in terms of extending social license for fossil fuel use, and as a marketing tool for the fossil fuel industry, and in terms of regulatory capture etc. Even if you are to look at it technically, CCS works just fine- you just can't afford it, even under nearly ideal conditions.

How do I know that CCS works "just fine"? Because the "capture" part is done routinely by the fossil fuel industry day in, day out, as a normal part of business. Every hydrogen generation unit on earth does it. Every liquefied natural gas (LNG) plant does it. Most of the fossil gas processing plants do it too, removing some CO2 to get the gas up to pipeline spec in terms of energy content. And a great many chemical plants remove CO2 from either feedstocks or product streams, because the gas gets in the way otherwise.

In chemical engineering terms, the capture part is childsplay, because CO2, aside from being bigger and bulkier, also has a "handle" on it that other gases in the atmosphere like N2 and O2, and the methane that makes up most of fossil gas, don't have. CO2 is an acid gas, and so it chemically reacts with bases. And that reaction can be made reversible, too. So we can use that "handle" to separate it out selectively from mixtures of other gases.

Of course if the atmosphere can be treated as a free or very cheap public sewer, you don't bother with the "S" part- you simply vent the gas once you've collected it. And if that alternative is on the table, there's no big impetus to put a whole lot of effort and energy into making sure your "CCS" project meets its design objectives- so, sometimes these projects don't. And often, it's for reasons other than the "capture" part. Gorgon, for instance, is having trouble with the "storage" part, because the reservoir they want to dump the CO2 into, needs to have water pumped out of it- and the receiving reservoir for that water is clogging up with sand. Or something like that- anyway. Ask a geologist.

The Basics of CCS

Any time you try to take a dilute mixture and make it into a concentrated mixture, you're going in the opposite direction to the one the 2nd law of thermodynamics says that things go spontaneously. The spontaneous direction is for concentrated things to become dilute, hot things to become cold etc. etc. By trying to go in the other direction, you're locally decreasing entropy, by pushing something up a concentration gradient. No problem, says the 2nd law- you simply have to pay your tithe in terms of energy, and ensure that the entropy of the entire universe increases in net terms when you're done. The bigger the concentration gradient, the greater the entropic "tithe"- the more energy you need to use to make it happen.

It stands to reason. Imagine you're given 100 golf balls- all white, except one. You can look at each ball, but only one at a time, and you can't stop looking when you've found the orange one- once you're in, you're committed to looking at all 100. Wow, what a pain! But you could do it, if for some reason you really wanted that one orange ball.

Now let's say that instead of 100, it was 10,000 balls, and still only one orange one...

You can see that the lower the concentration, the more of a pain in the @ss this is going to be. That's the 2nd law.

In terms of gas mixtures, the thing that really matters is the partial pressure. The partial pressure is the product of the volumetric concentration of the gas, and the total pressure.

Take, for instance, the syngas stream coming out of a steam methane reformer. The gas mixture is about 15-20 volume % CO2, at a pressure of about 25 bar(g). The partial pressure of CO2 is therefore about 0.15*25 = 3.8 bar.

Let's compare that to the atmosphere. It's 416 ppm CO2 at a total pressure of 1 bar(g). That's a partial pressure of 0.000416 bar.

Hmm- looks like getting the CO2 out of the 1st one is going to be quite a bit easier than the 2nd one, eh? Yup. Way, way easier. You need to process 3.8/0.000416 or around 9100 times as much gas volume in the case of the atmosphere, to obtain a tonne of CO2- assuming that you captured it all.

But in fact the partial pressure we're most concerned about is the partial pressure at the discharge, not the inlet. So doing 90% capture (removing all but 10% of the CO2 in the incoming gas stream) takes considerably more energy than doing 50% capture- not just because you have to process more gas, but you have to do a better job of "sifting" it.

There are other complexities, but to a first approximation, the following are borne out when you look at CCS projects in the world:

1) The stuff you're removing the CO2 from, has to be worth money, and the CO2 must be a problem, otherwise you won't bother removing it.

2) The partial pressure of the CO2 has to be pretty high to make it worth the bother of removing it.

3) That means either the concentration of CO2, the total pressure, or preferably both, need to be high, or you won't bother doing it

4) That means process streams, rather than waste gas streams, are the main thing you're going to remove CO2 from, because they're easy, i.e. they require less expensive energy

5) Combustion equipment usually doesn't operate at high pressure, and is usually carried out using air (which is 79% useless nitrogen), resulting in low CO2 partial pressures- so post-combustion CO2 capture is unusual (though it is done- when the desired product is CO2, for instance for carbonating drinks)

When you look at "CCS" projects therefore, what you usually find are projects like Sleipner and Gorgon, where there's a lot of CO2 in an otherwise valuable fossil gas stream coming up from the ground under pressure, which must have its CO2 removed before it can be monetized, and where the CO2 is being buried rather than vented for regulatory reasons (i.e. venting isn't allowed by the local government).

Rarer are projects like Quest, the blackish-blue bruise-coloured hydrogen project in Alberta which is burying 1 million tonnes of CO2 per year which must be removed from the hydrogen, but which ordinarily would be vented- except instead, the Canadian public through their tax dollars are paying to bury it instead.

What you rarely see are post-combustion CCS projects, where CO2 produced from energy production such as burning fossil gas or coal is captured and then buried. Why not? Low partial pressure, meaning high energy cost, and extra cost due to loss/destruction of the bases (amines) used in the carbon capture equipment. In those cases where post-combustion CO2 capture is carried out, invariably the proponents seek to monetize the CO2 by doing enhanced oil recovery. And that, folks, really isn't CCS- it's a way to "dryclean" an existing oil reservoir to recover more oil, and only a fraction of the CO2 injected remains buried. EOR is an attempt by the fossil fuel industry to be paid twice for its CO2- and while post combustion CCS is better than mining naturally occurring CO2 for this purpose, the even better choice is to stop mining fossils for the purpose of burning them.

Forget About CO2 Re-Use

And please, for once and for all, let's forget about the "use" thing, i.e. CCUS. Let's be clear about what CO2 is: it's a waste material. The very thing that makes CO2 (and water) a valuable product of energy producing reactions like combustion, makes it a poor starting material from which to make much of anything useful. What is that thing? Low Gibbs free energy, i.e. low chemical potential energy. Think of fuels as sitting on top of a chemical potential energy cliff. Throw them down the cliff by reacting them with oxygen to make products like CO2 and water, and you liberate chemical energy. But the 1st law of thermodynamics says that you must put back all that energy if you want to start with CO2 and water and use them to make fuels again- and the 2nd law says that each energy conversion is going to come with losses. As it turns out, the losses involved in climbing that particular cliff are very, very steep indeed.

Of course some readers are scratching their heads or perhaps throwing chicken bones at their computer screens right now, yelling that CO2 (and water) is the basic building block of life on earth. And yeah, you're right. Plant life takes CO2, water and the energy from sh*tloads of visible light photons, collected and stacked up on top of one another in an incredibly complex chemical shuttling process called "photosynthesis", to produce carbohydrates- the stuff from which plants are made and the stuff (nearly) the entire rest of the ecosystem uses as a source of chemical energy (i.e food).

Nature's been at this for about a billion years, and has managed some shocking leaps forward in the efficiency of photosynthesis. The energy efficiency, after all that time, is about 2% at best.

Why? Because it's frigging hard to do. Nature does this because a) the sun is a limitless source of energy b) to nature, time is irrelevant and c) it has no choice.

There are a handful of highly oxygenated chemicals which might be worth making from CO2, water and electricity in the future. The only one of them which is a "fuel" in meaningful terms, is methanol- and right now, all the methanol in the world is made from fossil gas via the manufacture of syngas, without CO2 capture. Fortunately, most of the methanol produced in the world is like almost all the hydrogen- it isn't wasted as a fuel, but rather is used as a chemical.

Reference Costs

Shell Quest provides a great reference. The article I wrote about Quest, linked above, provides links to the public sources of information about the project. It was done by experts, not dummies- it was designed and executed by Shell and the giant EPC Fluor. Conditions are ideal- high partial pressure CO2 in process syngas is all they go after, capture percentage target is modest (80% of the CO2 in the syngas), and they have an ideal hole in the ground to stuff the resulting CO2 into, only 60-ish km away.

What does it cost? $125 CDN per tonne of CO2 emissions avoided. Shell claims on the project website that they could do the next project "for 30% less", but that was before COVID/wartime inflation. And in facilities terms, net of the energy (heat and electricity) used to run the CCS equipment, capture is terrible- only 35% of the CO2 in net terms is captured. Figure in the methane emissions and CO2e capture is even worse- by my estimates, only about 21%.

Too expensive. By the time a reasonable payback on capital, realistic costs of energy and some profit are included, the cost of doing this is north of what carbon taxes will be in Canada even in 2030- even assuming we keep electing pro carbon tax governments (and I sincerely hope we do!). Unless carbon tax levels are both high and very certain, nobody is going to do this without additional government "help". That means taking money collected in taxes on things we want, or should want, i.e. people and businesses making goods and services of real value- and using those funds to pay the likes of Shell to bury its effluent.

So much better to just reduce how much effluent we generate, by buying less of Shell's products!

Why does DAC Suck?

As you might have concluded from the foregoing, DAC sucks not just because of its obvious use as an insincere strategy to keep us burning fossils for longer based on a false hope- but also because the partial pressure of CO2 in the atmosphere, though higher than we can tolerate in climactic terms, is very low indeed in absolute terms: only 0.000416 bar. That means you're involved in not only an entropic fight, requiring lots of energy to capture even a little CO2, but you also generally have to move a lot of air around mechanically to make it work out. And there's a lot of other stuff in air- dust and dirt, water vapour and the like- which can screw up your equipment, depending on how you do it.

As badly as "blackish blue" hydrogen looks, doing that would be much smarter than doing DAC. And capturing the CO2 from calciners making cement from carbonate rocks, would make even more sense- especially if those calciners were electrified using renewable electricity.

The energy use inherent to the thermodynamic foolhardiness of DAC means that DAC is, until we stop burning fossils as a source of energy, basically an energy-destroying Rube Goldberg apparatus to rival something out of an OK Go video:

Here's a hilarious bit of inadvertent accuracy on the part of the National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL) in relation to DAC- an image which is missing only the wire connecting the polluting power plant to the useless DAC machine!

No alt text provided for this image

As I've said many times: over here, on the left hand side of the image (most of the world sadly!) we're burning fossils to make energy. Over there, on the right hand side of the image, we apparently have vast amounts of renewable energy which we want to waste by running an energy-destroying Rube Goldberg apparatus. The obvious solution is to connect "here" and "there" with a WIRE, and throw away the worthless, energy-sapping molecular middleman!

DAC's Biggest Players

There are plenty of players trying to suck up the credulous, foolish funding for DAC approaches being offered both privately and through government agencies, but the two main proponents at present are the (regrettably) Canadian company Carbon Engineering, and the Swiss firm Climeworks (whose image I modified for this article). There are also "passive" DAC approaches, such as people trying to grind up silicate rocks so they can "weather" and become carbonate rocks quicker than they would naturally. Those approaches have their own problems, but they're not the target of this particular missive on my part- you'll need to wait for a future article for me to take them on. In this one, my sights are set firmly on the big, iconic, CGI-generated vacuum cleaners- my target is the "meme" of DAC.

Carbon Engineering's approach is to use a two step process. A strong base (potassium hydroxide) is used to capture the CO2 in the big vacuum cleaner thingies, making their DAC equipment quite a bit smaller and more practical than if a weaker base were used- but at the cost of making regeneration of that base, harder and more energy-intensive (thermodynamics sucks, doesn't it?). Their solution is to use the calcium oxide cycle, generating calcium carbonate as their strong base is recycled. The calcium oxide is regenerated from the calcium carbonate- get this- by burning fossil gas...

Their principal investors, Chevron and Oxy Petroleum, are interested in using DAC to produce CO2 for use in EOR, while also harvesting credulous government money for CCS credits. Wonderful! Michael Barnard has done a marvelous job of bashing this dumb scheme already, so I don't need to bother doing any more than pointing you to his excellent work. He calls Carbon Engineering "Chevron's Fig Leaf", and I cannot disagree.

The other guys, ClimeWorks, use a "highly selective filter material"- what this is, is not clear, but it appears to be a base fixed to a solid. The base is then heated to 100 C to drive off the CO2. No, they get no entropic benefit from any magic beans in their "filter"- they're fighting the same pointless battle that Carbon Engineering and the rest are fighting, just using different tools. But at least ClimeWorks doesn't burn fossil gas to regenerate their "filter"- they power their units with "100% renewable energy or waste heat". Their big showcase project is in Iceland, where clean-ish geothermal electricity and heat is used to run their DAC machine. The resulting CO2 is injected into water returning to a volcanic aquifer rich in silicates. Over a period of years, the CO2 in this water "weathers" the silicates, converting them to carbonates.

ClimeWorks seems to have settled on the business model of voluntary carbon credit harvesting. Pay us to capture and bury your CO2, at the low low price of $1,100 USD per tonne!

Wow- imagine the real emissions reductions we could do for way, way less than $600/tonne...Like electric vehicles, where the car costs more, but the total cost of ownership to the vehicle owner- and hence the cost per tonne of CO2 emissions abated- are in fact negative to the vehicle owner...

But hey, I get it. The big vacuum cleaners to the rescue will let some people drive their big, dumb pickup trucks with a little less guilt- even if those DAC units are just proposed and not actually built...

Carbon Negative Technologies Which Work

I can hear the complainers already. "You just sh*t on everything everybody else is doing- what are your solutions?"

I've laid out my solutions very clearly. I've even mis numbered them, so your solution can be slotted in where you see fit:

What are the solutions? Read the $)(*@#$ article! But in summary:

1) Make CO2 emissions cost something- a high and durable price

2) Stop wasting precious, finite fossil resources as fuels. Use them instead to make the 10s of thousands of molecules and materials every bit as essential to modern life as is energy, but which are far, far harder to make starting with biomass much less CO2 and water and electricity! Electrify everything instead. And if you think you can't electrify it, try harder.

3) We'll need some liquid fuels in the future, for applications like long distance aviation which simply cannot do without. Don't make them the lugubrious way using CO2, water and electricity, because that's nuts. Instead, start with biomass. Yes, the cheapest way is using food biomass, because all of agriculture so far in human history has been optimized around getting plants to put as much energy into the parts we harvest for food as possible. But we can also start with cellulosic materials- wood waste, corn stover, sugarcane bagasse, rice and wheat straw etc. Make those fuels via pyrolysis, produce biochar and return that to the fields and forests the source biomass came from, closing the inorganic nutrients loop and providing a service formerly provided to the ecosystem via wild fire- something humans simply cannot tolerate. Yes, the resulting fuels will cost a fortune, but they'll be cheaper than e-fuels, and every mile flown by rich people on jets will have the net result of taking carbon OUT of the atmosphere and tying it up for centuries if not millenia in the soils. But don't expect that to happen voluntarily- you'll need to force it via regulation or it just will not happen. I like this char approach much better than other bioenergy plus carbon capture and storage schemes (BECCS). Burning wood and doing post-combustion CCS is pretty much a non-starter based on my analysis, though some like Drax in the UK are betting big on it.

Disclaimer

This article was written, pro bono as a public service, by a human who was sipping home-made cider and writing about something he thinks is important, on a Friday evening, instead of watching Netflix. That human has no money riding on any of this one way or another- he has no EV company stock, nor is he shorting Carbon Engineering etc. But because a human was involved in the writing, there is some emotion in there, as well as the possibility of error. Show me where I've gone wrong, with references, and I will gratefully edit the piece to reflect my more fulsome knowledge.

And you'll find a comment in reply to your "rebuttal" on your article.

Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages