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John Hollins

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Sep 21, 2025, 9:31:09 AM (5 days ago) Sep 21
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The Coming Wave, a book by Mustafa Suleyman, co-founder of Deepmind, opens with a prologue written by AI. The question asked was: What does the coming wave of technology mean for humanity?

I asked Google the same question. Suggest you do the same if you are interested in AI and its possible consequences.

Then I asked: How does global heating affect humanity? 
The answer is written in language for an intelligent layperson. Could be handy for conversations with neighbours and family.

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John


David Harries

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Sep 21, 2025, 12:43:03 PM (5 days ago) Sep 21
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May interest after even only what just happened to European air travel.....

 

 Artificial intelligence ushers in a golden age of hacking, experts say

Hackers are using AI’s immense capabilities to find ways into more networks — and turn their victims’ AI against them.

 While many business sectors are still weighing the pluses and minuses of generative AI, criminal hackers are jumping in with both feet.

They have figured out how to turn the artificial intelligence programs proliferating on most computers against users to devastating effect, say cybersecurity experts who express deepening concerns about their ability to fend off cyberattacks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/09/20/ai-hacking-cybersecurity-cyberthreats/?itid=hp_business-technology_p006_f001

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David Dougherty

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John, did you intend to have an attachment for us to read?

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SamratB

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Hi John

I had recently written about AI and had also mentioned this "Mustafa Suleyman, co-founder of Deepmind, and his new book from 2023. https://audiopervert.substack.com/p/living-intelligence

Short extract.

Fascination with the “organizational capacity” of computers is based on ever increasing computing power and the faith in a given software’s “ability to comprehend human needs, objectives and decisions.” (John Searle). Whatever “coming wave” or “transcending humanity” AI does mimic a deeper tendency of continuous technological innovation, one that was deemed as a “great bluff” by Jacques Ellul (Technological Society). Established by collective ignorance, hype or faith, certain people insist on the power of new techniques, the superiority of new systems, while objectively knowing nothing about the involved technologies. The assimilation and integration is unquestionable, for such people when it comes to AI. One can see this tacit obedience, across various episodes of a popular dystopian series like Black Mirror. Based on the same no-brain trope of “what people once did, machines and computers now do, and with more inevitability than earlier…” (Technological Bluff)

The entire internet + AI itself is emitting as much CO2 as the international airlines industry. How a system, this destructive, can provide any objectively useful answers about the biosphere crisis (climate change included) is open to debate, or perhaps entirely useless. 

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