Fwd: Re: [discuss] [OT?] Accuracy of Architectural Drawings from 1895?

[giovanni_re]

--- Original message -----
From: Marc Gabriel <marc...@yahoo.com>
To: James Arthur <i...@jamesarthur.info>
Cc: "dis...@artisansasylum.com" <dis...@artisansasylum.com>, Zebbler
Peter Berdovsky <zeb...@zebblerstudios.com>
Subject: Re: [discuss] [OT?] Accuracy of Architectural Drawings from
1895?
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 08:31:41 -0400

As an architect the accuracy of the drawings can be subjective:

- dimension strings dictate over actual scaling of drawing (this differs
from mechanical/engineering documents). Scaling of drawings is a last
resort, this is dependent on the actual scale of the drawing, the line
weight, the media used (linen or vellum), and the skill of the draftsmen
(since these drawings were drawn by hand and pencil/ink).

- Using drawings that have been published in a book (I assume since
there are page numbers on some of the sheets) may or may not be
accurate. Usually published renderings/elevations can be artistic
representations of the building.

- very ornate details may change during the "shop drawing" process and
the end product will be representative of the original design intent,
due to limitations of the material/craftsmen.

To echo Jason's responses it is good to "as-built" the facade not
necessarily the whole thing but elements to verify the accuracy of the
drawings.

The reason the drawings are probably not available from the Library or
City is that the architect owns the design/drawings and typically they
are retained at the office of the architect, but since McKim, Mead, &
White and their successors are all defunct the NYHS retains the rights
to the documents.

With that said nothing beats an actual set of full scale documents,
sounds like a good excuse for a road trip to NYC!

Marc Gabriel, RA LEED AP BD+C

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 30, 2013, at 5:59 PM, James Arthur <i...@jamesarthur.info> wrote:

> The original drawings are held up at the New York Historical Society, which have been really hard to get any info from. I did find the collection # and department, but no one has returned my calls at this point (day 3 of trying).
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Zebbler Peter Berdovsky <zeb...@zebblerstudios.com> wrote:
>> Nothing exists as far as I've been told by the city and the library, besides the drawings given to James which he forwarded to this list.
>> I don't fucking know why.
>> But that's what the City Hall and the Library told us as far as I know.
>>
>>
>> Zebbler Peter Berdovsky
>> zebblerstudios.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Douglas Ruuska <ruus...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There might be someone at either the Boston Architectural College:
>>>
>>> www.the-bac.edu/
>>>
>>> The Boston Society of Architects
>>>
>>> www.architects.org/
>>>
>>> or the Architecture Dept. of MIT who might have more detailed info for you on thisbuilding.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, have you tried asking at the library itself?
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>> From: James Arthur <i...@jamesarthur.info>
>>> To: "dis...@artisansasylum.com" <dis...@artisansasylum.com>
>>> Cc: Zebbler Peter Berdovsky <zeb...@zebblerstudios.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:32 PM
>>> Subject: [discuss] [OT?] Accuracy of Architectural Drawings from 1895?
>>>
>>> Hey Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm working with Zebbler Studios on a project Projection Mapping the facade of the Boston Public Librarie's McKim Building on New Year's Eve this year.
>>>
>>> We're trying to get an idea about accuracy from drawings at this time. I've attached some scans, one of which looks folded so its hard to work with.
>>>
>>> Also, looking for a team who are up for going out and actually measuring the facade details so we can get a good 3D model for projection mapping. This needs to all happen by the end of the week so the animators can get to work. If you have any recommendations for a fairly priced way to pull this off, I'd love to hear it.
>>>
>>> I look forward to your insights and ideas,
>>>
>>> --
>>> James Arthur
>>> 857.318.1866
>>> i...@jamesarthur.info
>>> www.jamesarthur.info
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