Rick Moen is censoring the SVLUG email list - Fwd: Oh, grow up

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giovanni_re

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Nov 15, 2011, 1:50:12 AM11/15/11
to BTG, BTL
This is my true belief - Ten years ago I used to think he was a great
guy.

I don't know what has gone wrong with him over the past maybe 5 years.
: (


No problemo over here on BTIP, though.
Free speech is welcome here. : )


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----- Original message -----
From: "Rick Moen" <ri...@linuxmafia.com>
To: volun...@lists.svlug.org
Cc: "Mark S Bilk" <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com>, "John Regan"
<joh...@fastmail.us>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:42:26 -0800
Subject: Oh, grow up

I really don't have time for you two chuckleheads. Your ability to post
will be restricted for a time, and, if I fail to notice that one of your
postings isn't rubbish and expires out of the Mailman admin queue before
Mark Weisler or I approve it manually, I'm not even going to feel sorry.

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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:49:40 -0800
From: svlug...@lists.svlug.org
To: svlug...@lists.svlug.org
Subject: [Mailman-owner] svlug post from ma...@cosmicpenguin.com requires
approval

As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
following mailing list posting:

List: sv...@lists.svlug.org
From: ma...@cosmicpenguin.com
Subject: Linux vs Fascism -was: Help Occupy Oakland get electricity,
lights, Linux etc ...
Reason: Post to moderated list

At your convenience, visit:

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to approve or deny the request.

Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:01:47 -0800
From: Mark S Bilk <ma...@cosmicpenguin.com>
To: sv...@lists.svlug.org
Message-ID: <20111114170...@isis.cosmicpenguin>
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Subject: Linux vs Fascism -was: Help Occupy Oakland get electricity,
lights, Linux etc ...

The domination and exploitation of the world's people by the
ultra-wealthy and their corporations, governments, and media
have a strong negative effect on Linux and other free software.

Linux adoption is only a tiny fraction of what it would have
been without Microsoft's years of lying propaganda, $100,000,000
fraudulent SCO lawsuit, media censorship by threat of withdrawal
of advertising, bribed columnists and analysts, secret contracts
with OEMs forbidding sale of computers with dual-booting, etc, etc.

At the same time, the people of the World Community are gradually
waking up to the political and economic realities mostly because
of information transmitted via the Internet, which runs on free
software. GNU/Linux and other free software are necessary for
people around the world to communicate and organize, especially
in the face of increased government/corporate efforts to censor
the Net. We need complete user control over our software, not
corporate control as with Microsoft products.

The U.S. and allied governments have been invading and smashing
other nations and murdering millions of people in the last ten
years, using the 9/11 false-flag attacks as their false pretext.
The laws, agencies, and concentration camps are already in place
in the U.S. for its transformation to a total police state,
with arbitrary arrest, torture, and murder of American citizens.

Linux needs and is needed by the people in the U.S. and around
the world who are fighting for freedom and survival.

This conflict is by far the most important thing going on in the
world at this time. Our species can either go down into an
eternal night of world fascism and death under control of
ultra-wealthy psychopaths, with 1% of the population continuing
to own 99% of the wealth, or by education and action we can
advance our civilization and technology so that work and its
products and profits are shared much more equally, and everyone
lives successfully.

This is the reality in which we live! Human history is at
a turning point. We must become aware of what's going on and
consider its implications for everything. It is truly a matter
of life or death!

Mark S Bilk

http://cosmicpenguin.com

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 06:30:38AM -0800, Lisa wrote:
>Regardless of anyone's political leanings, I would like to ask if this sort of post belongs on a Linux users' group's mailing list.
>
>We have gone down the political path one way or another before and in usually ends up in an argument and someone suggesting we "get back on topic."
>
>So, this time, I am immediately suggesting that non-linux, political, supportave of any political groups that are not directly addressing software issues, are not appropriate here... regardless of how many on this list would be expected to side with the cause.
>--
>giovanni_re <joh...@fastmail.us> wrote:
>
>A great bunch of wonderful people. I've been by a few hours the past
>few weeks.
>
>I'm working to help them get holiday light strings on every tent - that
>will make it safer to walk around the tents, look brighter & more
>inviting, & beautiful.
>
>Bring a string of holiday lights to donate - even a 99 cent one is
>great. :)
>Donate an extension cord.
>
>Donate a 7" Coby tablet running android linux, $88 this week at frys, -
>would be
>great help to the media/web/network people, if you've got that much
>money.
>
>14th & Broadway, heart of the business district, right outside city
>hall. 14 th st BART station.
>
>The police stole their bike electric generator - like this one also
>stolen by the police in SF, IIRC.
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/13/occupysf_bofh_protest_pedal_power/
>
>You ( everyone there) gets to vote in the general assembly meeting about
>6-8pm.
>www.occupyoakland.org
>- see the calendar for event times.
>
>They are facing eviction at any moment by the powers that be. But they
>are very resilient , & bringing lights & linux will help them out.
>
>Whatever your skills are, they will be useful. :)
>
>Oakland is my home town. If u can't make it here, help your local
>Occupy people.
>http://www.occupytogether.org/actions/
>
>[I haven't even made it up to Cal's new event, yet.]
>
>Bring the kids.
>http://www.berkeleyside.com/2011/11/08/a-mom-goes-to-occupy-oakland-with-her-7-year-old-twins/
>
>More news
>http://berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2011-11-12
>http://www.dailycal.org/
>
>I hope to see you there. :)
>
>== Smartphone Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/Smartphone
>Join in the Global monthly meetings, via voice, about all Free SW HW &
>Culture
>http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/
>

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