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kanika

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Jan 15, 2006, 12:07:13 PM1/15/06
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Like the central and state governments divide certain fields between
them for administration e.g agriculture,education etc r managed at
state level and defence,foreign relation, co-ordination in states etc r
managed at central level.
Should we 've some thing like this in our central management and local
chapters ?
I believe that 'll lead to better ,faster and smarter working of BM.etc
r managed at central level .

amit hargude

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Jan 16, 2006, 12:37:56 AM1/16/06
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vande mataram,
first of all dont compare ourselves with any
govt. as the govt. comprises larger number of people and have
responsibility of crores of people( though they r irresponsible). first
of all let our group be a force of atleast 10,000 active members, then
an organisational structure will be required. as far present day goes
we are hardly 1000+ with 1/10th number of active members. and also the
central team is not yet required as wat ''we do in mumbai would not
hold water in chennai'', so for the time being we have to concentrate
on our local chapter and not think about it. the central team and local
team donot need these kinda division as we r very few in number with
respect to active members. so the moral of the story is.. first we
should get active members and also continue with our ground work.

regards
amit hargude

kanika

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Jan 17, 2006, 7:05:46 AM1/17/06
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u r absolutely right,only I was a bit confused ,is there any thing we
need to tak permission abt in the workin of our local activities?

kanika

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Jan 17, 2006, 7:06:18 AM1/17/06
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Moderator BhartUdayMission

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Jan 17, 2006, 10:04:25 AM1/17/06
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Dear Members,
 No one need any permission for doing anything in interest of BM. Since we are growing and there are things which needs be streamlined like  policy for raising finances and its distribution, legal issues arising at time and again. We need policy research team at central level, becuase that is not Chapter specific. We need ground work team at central level to have better information flow among chapters. Its members will are also supposed to lead by example. We need people for developing website at central level and we also need people who work for propogation and give ideas about propogation to local chapters. We also need people at central for literature development.
 People at central level and local level are not different. Some are more active at local ground level and some are more active on net for better information flow. We think that there is space for all.
 Local chapter can have teams and responsibilities as per their needs.
 
Thanks and Regards,
Moderators

 

amit hargude

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Jan 17, 2006, 11:29:25 AM1/17/06
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dear moderators,
i think we are too less in number to have a
central team right now. what help can the central team give to the
local chapter, as far as the present day goes the members of th local
chapters should manage it themselves as we are very less in number.
situations are different in different places
w.r.t. propagation. '''wat holds water in chennai would not hold water
in mumbai''', the people, the method and mindset is different in
different place, then how can central team help for it. plz explain me
the work of ground work team as in wat help can this team give to the
local chapters as the situation here is same as in with propagation
team. well these are some obvious points which i would like to raise in
front of the moderators.

regards
amit hargude

kanika

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Jan 17, 2006, 9:02:48 PM1/17/06
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Dear amit,

I think that the central team right now may mean little for guiding
local chapters b'cos of reasons u gave but it might definitely help by
growing on feed of experience provided by local chapters and for
organising any NATIONAL EVENT as we are growing towards it everyday,and
after all 1 day we r going to have a central team.
Having a central team with a VERY VERY few rights above local chapters
might help to strenghten the mission as a whole,b'cos as u said that
mindset is diff. in diff. chapters,then it might grow TOO DIFFERENT in
absolute freedom.
I think that central team is important for preventig any deviation frm
our policies.

kanika

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Jan 17, 2006, 9:03:49 PM1/17/06
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amit hargude

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Jan 18, 2006, 6:38:24 AM1/18/06
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dear kanika,
having a national team with a VERY VERY few rights
seems to be a bit immaterial if thought practically. if there is hardly
any use of it then why to have it, why to waste time on it?
and the other concern of urs of the local chapters heading in a
different way because of absolute freedom is a bit imaginary, coz wat
ever work they are doin, is directly serving the nation, and serving
for the country is included in our policy. and talking about the
mindset, in my previous mail, i was mentioning about the propagation
team at national level, not the work done by the local chapters. in BM
we are here for same 'lakshya' but the method of work or situations is
different at different place. hence watever we are doing in mumbai cant
be done at banglore as things are totally different over there.
and about the national event, we have already held the
national convention without having a national team. so as far as
present day goes we dont need any national structure.

regards
amit hargude

kanika

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Jan 18, 2006, 10:03:09 PM1/18/06
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dear amit,

What i meant by very very few rights is that central team should've
enough rights to preserve integrity of a national framework but not too
many to hinder the work of individual chapters.
It is true that we r small in number and a big central team 'll b just
a white elephant consuming all kind'a resources with no promising
outcome but wat abt a small central team?
There r many national problems like Sunami or that french warship
coming to India that do not wait for u to grow in number but r
important immediate concerns of the country,their harmeffect might b
irreversible even by a large number once the time is lost.Sitting back
on them just wondering whether we can do any thing effective is just
not practically patriotic.At least we need to voice our opinion abt
them if not more and we cannot do it effectively without a national
stage.That sure is going to make some effect as well as serve to
nationwide propagation and growth of organisation, i.e growth at local
chapters.
1 chapter cannot make any effective contribution to such problems and
asking any local chapter to moderate the efforts of all 'll b making a
big burden no it.
Central team 'll b able to work smarter on it b'cos it'll b able to
concentrate on such problems and work on suggestions frm local chapters
b'cos as u said local problems might not hold at national level
,without being bothered abt local concerns.
We 'll able to make some immediate humble contribution to national
emergencies that might not wait,and this is something that we r
actually working for.
Let us not mistake our aim of serving the nation for propagating the
local chapters
only.
An overall growth can b achieved best in the juvenile state of
organisation.

amit hargude

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Jan 19, 2006, 1:14:12 AM1/19/06
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dear kanika
first of all, the problems which u have mentioned has
nothing to do with the national teams which is being formed. the
national team for which BM is up for, has a totally different
scenario(plz see the organisational structure)... and if at all there
is tsunami or any other natural calamities, there are lot of ways to
help affected people, as one of our chapters donated huge amt. of money
to kashmir earthquake victims, even i had donated money for it. this
was done without the national team. the points u have mentioned above
are way to far from our reach to take any action|( french warships
etc...)
but the matter of fact is we dont require a national team at
this point of time, and is agreed upon by many of the active members as
even they thought that its totally immaterial.

regards
amit h

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