Re: 6 new messages in 3 topics - digest
jolly
What worse can India be than is is now. You have the likes of lalu prasad, Mulayam singh yadav, Mayawati, Ram Vilas Paswan like criminals ruling the country and whom congress supports so vehemently.
look at the way Dewe gouda is being offered sops - VIce president of India, cabiner berth etc as if its her personal property just to have power in Karnataka.
Regards..........Jolly
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> Subject: 6 new messages in 3 topics - digest
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> Today's topics:
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> * are u a hindu or a secularist - 3 messages, 3 authors
> http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/ccc9324561842881
> * The auctioning of India - 1 messages, 1 author
> http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/8fab64179b93adc9
> * ever imagined? - 2 messages, 2 authors
> http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/5cfcb52826e572f2
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> TOPIC: are u a hindu or a secularist
> http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/ccc9324561842881
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> == 1 of 3 ==
> Date: Sun, Jan 22 2006 12:47 pm
> From: kiran...@gmail.com
>
> Dear Brother Amit,
>
> The best way to stop imbalance is by promoting balance. Lets us
> transform the society into one that believes in love and harmony, I
> know, its not easy, but that is the only way to achieve a happy
> nation.
>
> If you see, there is some mistrust between many religions in India,
> let us promote common values in all religions as one common ground
> that can be shared and practised by all of us.
>
> to answer your question, are u a hindu or a secularist ? I would
> answer 'neither' .
> I sometimes felt that vote-bank politics was being practised, dividing
> the people on the basis of religion, caste etc..
>
> The solution would be promote Oneness - Humanity Without Barriers.
> I am not advocating dormant pacificism - but a gradual progression
> towards 'Humanity Without Barriers'
>
> Kiran
>
>
>
>
> == 2 of 3 ==
> Date: Sun, Jan 22 2006 8:22 pm
> From: "panda"
>
> I am a Hndu secularistic atheist. Why? By default or by birth I am a
> Hindu Brahmin. Most of the relatives, friends and neighbours are
> Hindus. The festivals and other gatherings(socio-cultural events) are
> basically having religious tones(in good sense). So all these has given
> me an identity. Why I am secular? ( not the pseudo-one) because I do
> not think religion is not that much required as far as governance is
> concerned. Religion is required for the common mass for spirituality
> and setting the parameters of principles. Secularism actually means to
> denounce the institutions. It was a very old theory existing in India.
> Like CHARWAKS. And a Hindu may be truely secular. Our school of thought
> is very rich and open minded and ready to experiment. Now why atheist?
> It is also there in our philosophy. A 'bhakta' gets 'mukti' in 12 lives
> but a 'shatru' of Bhagawan gets it in 3 lives. Why? Because it's again
> really difficult to be an atheist and as man is very weak. I am
> attached to Ramakrishna mission and have faith on Shree Ramakrishna and
> Vivekananda. They were mortals with flesh and blood. Yes as they
> believed in God, I have to think very cautiously and may not throw the
> vanishing act.
> We are here to work and perform our 'Karma' and 'Dharma which does not
> mean religion but 'duty'. It is much more above religion. We have to be
> proud with our culture and heritage. We have to regularly treat and
> filter our water (life) regularly as dirt always sets in. And 'Vidya
> dadati vinayam'. True knowledge makes one sober. The tree which bore
> many fruits, vows itself down (nata)
> regards
> panda
>
>
>
>
> == 3 of 3 ==
> Date: Mon, Jan 23 2006 4:43 am
> From: "harsha"
>
> amit,
> have you ever thought despite being given so many provisions,
> why muslims in india still the most economically backward
> section? and also they constitute most illiterates, did you
> know that less than 5% of muslim women are litereates.
>
> i happen to see MLA/MP seats/jobs being reserved for
> SC/ST/OBC but not for muslims. they certainly need to be
> given enough economical pull to bring into mainstream like
> SC/STs. I really don't wonder if tomorrow government
> comes with muslim reservation in education and jobs,
> since they are as bad as any other backward section
> in India, though people deny reservations based on
> caste lines.
>
> Instead of mud slinging, we should be better souls if we
> can call ourselves nationalistic and work together for the
> betterment of nation.
>
> as far as your fifth point considered, it takes centuries
> for muslims population to overtake hindu population with
> muslims still being about 18% of total indian population.
>
>
>
>
>
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> TOPIC: The auctioning of India
> http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/8fab64179b93adc9
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>
> == 1 of 1 ==
> Date: Mon, Jan 23 2006 5:44 am
> From: "harsha"
>
> saswant, Just like one inherit his father's business, politicians like
> their children to inherit their legacy whether they fit or not for the
> job. There could be better people who can manage inherited business
> than you could, but as at one time you are telling, where is the
> chance? This is not limited to congress alone, probably to any
> politician irrespective of party line.
>
> Believe it or not, being politician is the most competent and toughest
> job in India. One has to rise to stand such competition. If some
> inherit it and is incomepetent, he will feather out eventually just
> like if he is an incompetent businessman. No charisma works.
>
>
>
>
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> TOPIC: ever imagined?
> http://groups.google.com/group/BM_discussion/browse_thread/thread/5cfcb52826e572f2
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> == 1 of 2 ==
> Date: Mon, Jan 23 2006 5:16 pm
> From: Harsha
>
> What if axis powers had won world war 2? any guess.
>
> India certainly would be a different state with Subhash Chandra Bose
> donning the stage as first prime minister.
>
> tribute to a great leader on his birth anniversary,
> http://library.flawlesslogic.com/bose_1.htm
>
>
>
> == 2 of 2 ==
> Date: Mon, Jan 23 2006 3:17 pm
> From: Vinay Khaitan
>
> Dear Harsha,
>
> if axis power would have won, the world order would have been much
> worse, much much worse. Indian would have been in very bad state than
> currenlty it is.
> On 23/01/06, Harsha <har...@happyharsha.com> wrote:
> >
> > What if axis powers had won world war 2? any guess.
> >
> > India certainly would be a different state with Subhash Chandra Bose
> > donning the stage as first prime minister.
> >
> > tribute to a great leader on his birth anniversary,
> > http://library.flawlesslogic.com/bose_1.htm
> >
>
>
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harsha
book titled 'The Alternate History' by Peter Tsouras who had not drawn
simple conclusion like you both did that India could be worser than
what it is now.
I certainly did not back any current day politician be it Lalu/Mulayam,
both are foreign to me. I supported reservation system (Iol, I belong
to Other Castes: OC) and openly told my views what if reservations are
lifted.
Where in the world you see secularists rubbing shoulders with
communals. All politicians shamelessly switch sides overnight. Can we
ever see a democrat switching to republicans in USA? It happens only in
India. Hardcore hindu Sanjay Nirupam joins hand with congress, and a
true secularist like Najma Heftuallh ditches congress.
needless to say, value less politics.