William Perry

[Gonçalo Marques]

Hi!

I'm investigating the patrilineal of Willam Perry that can be seen in this family search page

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:CD6J-JKT2

It doesn't allow me to see the document to get the information on the parents.

Is it something that someone in this group has access to? And can provide me with the information?

Cheers

Gonçalo

[Gonçalo Marques]

Hi again,

I wasn't able to look at the document, but I found a page with the information on the parents

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/sources/viewedit/3JCD-PCS?context

The father, John William Perry, is said to be from Portugal. Can someone point me to which documents to look into to try to find where in the Azores he came from?

Cheers

Gonçalo

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Gonçalo,

The Family Search community tree is a mess. Anyone, anywhere can add to it. So I could make his father be Mickey Mouse and his mother be Wilma Flintstone if I wanted to. That's not what happens though. With so many common names in one huge community/world family tree, a lot is assumed. So some of the people you search for are composites of one or more people. Just so you know. Be careful with those trees!

Yes, you have to be in a FamilySearch center to access that record. The parents of the both the bride and groom are from Sao Miguel.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[Gonçalo Marques]

Thank you very much for the information, Cheri

I found a census document saying that John William Perry got its citizenship in 1885. Do citizenship documents have information on parents? If so, is there a place I can look for this document?

Cheers

Gonçalo

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[Cheri Mello]

The 1885 (up to about WWI) were kinda sparse. Basically, the applicant renounces his allegiance to his former king. I can try to look for you, but I need to know which state the naturalization occurred.

Cheri Mello
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[Gonçalo Marques]

His children were born in Hawaii.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YBQ-WGL?i=34&cc=1727033&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMLCR-HHG

So, I suppose Hawaii.

I appreciate the help. But you can also point me to where you would look for it, and I can take the time to see if I can find it.

Cheers

Gonçalo

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[Cheri Mello]

I'd say the family above is his wife's family.

OK the thing about the censuses...that column is asking for the year of immigration (1885) and if an alien (AL), papers filed (Pa), or a naturalized citizen (Na). It says AL. He's an alien, immigrated in 1885. Not a good year. That book containing 1885 is missing for Sao Miguel. A huge number of years is missing (1884-1893).

However, I think they came together. The marriage column is marked m1, for first marriage of 32 years. So 1910 - 32 is marrying about 1878. So they were married for about 7 years before leaving for Hawaii.

Immigration INTO Hawaii exists. I don't believe it is online. You need to email the Portuguese Hawaiian Genealogical and Historical so they can check their inbound records. pgsh...@hotmail.com

Cheri Mello
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[Gonçalo Marques]

Thank you again. I'll do that.

Gonçalo

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[Cheri Mello]

Melody Lassalle (goes by Mel) has a few free indices you can search on her Portuguese Hawaiian Genealogy page:

http://www.yourislandroutes.com/

Cheri Mello
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[JR]

  Name: John William Terry
Sex: M


Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
William Terry
Son
M
20
Honolulu
Maria Sach
Wife
F


Emily Silva

F
16
Kilauea, Kauai
Francis De Silva

M


Mary Silva

F


Digital Folder Number: 007580012
Microfilm Number: 1711572
Originating System: EASY
Indexing Batch: M73449-6

Citing this Record
"Hawaii Marriages, 1826-1922", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FW8H-6JV : 12 January 2020), John William Terry in entry for William Terry, 1913.
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Name: William Ferry
Sex: Male
Spouse's Name: Emily Silva
Spouse's Sex: Female
Marriage Date: 3 Jul 1913
Marriage Place: Honolulu, Oahu, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States
Marriage Place (Original): Honolulu
Event Type: Marriage
Certificate Number: 6934

                                                                                                                                                                                      

Household                

           

Role                

           

Sex                

           

Age                

           

Birthplace                

           

Emily Silva                

           

Wife                

           

F                

           

Digital Folder Number: 007731136
Image Number: 02073

Citing this Record
"Hawaii, Board of Health, Marriage Record Indexes, 1909-1989," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:CD6J-JKT2 : 1 July 2022), William Ferry, 3 Jul 1913; citing Marriage, Honolulu, Oahu, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States, Hawaii Department of Health, Office of Health Status Monitoring, Honolulu.

[Gonçalo Marques]

Thank you for the help

Gonçalo

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[Joseph Mendonca]

I found this image of a marriage license record which could be them.  The names are the same but the date and record number differ from the family search record. The question is how many Emily Siva's and William Perry's were getting married in Honolulu at about the same time.  What are the odds?  It's probably them. Another piece of the puzzle.

https://ulukau.org/algene/collect/algene/pdfs/Oahu_pdfs/O-96%20No%203_pdfs/O-96%20No%203%20p33.pdf

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[Gonçalo Marques]

Yes, it must be them. Thank you :)

Now I'm trying to find where his father John Williams Perry was born in São Miguel, Açores.

Cheers

Gonçalo

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