Origin of surname Noia on Flores

[Cheri Mello]

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I googled my great grand mother’s name ( Nunes )and came across a thread with past relatives of her husband Antonio Noia! My great grand father naturally. Wow. It also lists their three children, my great aunt & uncle and my grandmother. Very interesting. It also mentions my mothers two brothers and not her or her two sisters or her!  Reading through all the past generation with all the familiar last names and some of the first names is amazing. Sure wish my mom was alive to see this information.
  My question is, where did the Noia name begin? António Fraga sees to have started it all in the Azores, Flores. Fraga, Carvalho, Pimentel, De Jesus are also mentioned. I don’t see where the name Noia actually enters the family!?  Also mentioned is that, Noia was shortened or altered once arriving in America.
    Anyway, any comments welcome

[luiznoia]

My grandfather's family is Noia from Flores. I have all of the Flores history and geneaolgy books in print. The consensus is that there are two Noia lines. One leads back to 

Sao Miguel and before that to Porto Santo, Madeira. This line is centered in Santa Cruz.

The other Noia group comes from the town of Noia, on the coast of Galicia, Spain. It is a closest seaport to Santiago de Compostela. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noia

Bartolomeu de Noia is the originator of this line centered in Ponta Delgada. He died there in 1680. This is my line. I have a document chain back to him.

In America, it some times became Noya. There is no shortening it. My great grandfather dropped the Noia name at naturalization, and used his middle name 

Luiz instead. 

I've spent 20 years picking apart the various Noia lines. If you have more information for me, I can see where it fits in. 

Eric Edgar

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[Luv4hevn]

Hello Eric we have connected before.  My family being one of those Noia lines.

We are the Noia’s from the Santa Cruz, Flores line. 

Brothers Roberto Antonio Noia & Francisco Noia came to the USA.  There is definitely 2 different Noia family sides in Antioch, CA area.  I’m still trying to separate them out.

Theresa 

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Well, my information came from you! The Fraga line. My great grandfather was António Carvalho Noia. Number 9 on your genealogy list. He married Maria Nunes. They lived in Oakley,CA.
I Am still unclear how the Noia names comes in to play. I don’t see who brought the Noia name into the mix. Still interested. Thanks for your efforts.
Cliff N

[Sam (Camas, WA)]

Cliff N;  Where do your Fragas come from?  Mine are from Sao Jorge.

 

Sam (Mazatlan, MX)

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[luiznoia]

I have a Contra Costa County Noia families master file. I have every Noia line mapped.

Send me specific information, and I'll look them up.

Eric Edgar 

[luiznoia]

Is this Theresa Aguiar?

Eric 

On Thu, May 3, 2018, 1:22 PM Luv4hevn <luv4...@comcast.net> wrote:

Hello Eric we have connected before.  My family being one of those Noia lines.

We are the Noia’s from the Santa Cruz, Flores line. 

Brothers Roberto Antonio Noia & Francisco Noia came to the USA.  There is definitely 2 different Noia family sides in Antioch, CA area.  I’m still trying to separate them out.

Theresa 

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On May 2, 2018, at 3:58 PM, luiznoia <nobla...@gmail.com> wrote:

My grandfather's family is Noia from Flores. I have all of the Flores history and geneaolgy books in print. The consensus is that there are two Noia lines. One leads back to 

Sao Miguel and before that to Porto Santo, Madeira. This line is centered in Santa Cruz.

The other Noia group comes from the town of Noia, on the coast of Galicia, Spain. It is a closest seaport to Santiago de Compostela. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noia

Bartolomeu de Noia is the originator of this line centered in Ponta Delgada. He died there in 1680. This is my line. I have a document chain back to him.

In America, it some times became Noya. There is no shortening it. My great grandfather dropped the Noia name at naturalization, and used his middle name 

Luiz instead. 

I've spent 20 years picking apart the various Noia lines. If you have more information for me, I can see where it fits in. 

Eric Edgar

On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Cheri Mello <gfsc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Repost for <no name>, 1halfazorean at gmail.com

I googled my great grand mother’s name ( Nunes )and came across a thread with past relatives of her husband Antonio Noia! My great grand father naturally. Wow. It also lists their three children, my great aunt & uncle and my grandmother. Very interesting. It also mentions my mothers two brothers and not her or her two sisters or her!  Reading through all the past generation with all the familiar last names and some of the first names is amazing. Sure wish my mom was alive to see this information.
  My question is, where did the Noia name begin? António Fraga sees to have started it all in the Azores, Flores. Fraga, Carvalho, Pimentel, De Jesus are also mentioned. I don’t see where the name Noia actually enters the family!?  Also mentioned is that, Noia was shortened or altered once arriving in America.
    Anyway, any comments welcome

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Flores, Santa cruz

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https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/azores/n6QT_fFpYqI/StqdGLkj4ZkJ
This where I got ALL of my info. from!

[luiznoia]

That is my work. 

Eric Edgar

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https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/azores/n6QT_fFpYqI/StqdGLkj4ZkJ
  This where I got ALL of my info. from!

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[1halfa...@gmail.com]

Yes, indeed.
My family, as I recognize, from my great grand father, Antonio Carvalho Noia. He died before I was born. I remember my great grand mother. I met her in about 1962/3. She died a short time later & her son, Antonio Jr. died a short time later. My great grand father is # 9 was one of thirteen children according to the fabulous list you provide. Noia name is first mentioned, I believe, in the 2nd or 3rd generation? Who carried the Noia name in the De Fraga beginnings?
I still don’t know how the Noia name came about. cliff

[1halfa...@gmail.com]

Yes, Eric
Still trying to comprehend how Manuel de Fraga and Maria Pimentel’s one and only child was named Antonio Fraga Noia?

[luiznoia]

Antonio was one of six children born to  Manuel de Fraga and Maria Pimentel that I have found. It's a common occurrence for a child to have a different surname than his father. It may be from his mother's family , or his father's maternal family. 

Eric 

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 6:23 PM, <1halfa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, Eric
    Still trying to comprehend how Manuel de Fraga and Maria Pimentel’s one and only child was named Antonio Fraga Noia?

[Carolynn Noia]

Hello,

I am new to this group, and new to researching the family of my husband Anthony C Noia IV, great grandson of Antonio Carvalho Noia mentioned here in this thread and #9 on that very helpful list. My husband's father Anthony C Noia III and his mother divorced when he was young, so not much is known about this side of the family.  I have only limited information gathered from census and cemetery records in Contra Costa county. I have  found a passport dated 1899 from the US to Azores, where Antonio Carvalho Noia stated he originally immigrated to the US in March 1882 aboard the Bark Sarah. I was excited to see that you remember Maria Noia. I would be very appreciative of any sources of information, year of immigration, photos, etc that you could provide about the Carvalho Noias.

Carolynn Noia