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Captain William Rumsey
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Date: December 28, 2020 at 09:09:34 CST
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Subject: FW: End some licenses, panel recommends (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette), Dec 26, 2020



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Subject: RE: End some licenses, panel recommends (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette), Dec 26, 2020

 

Good Morning!!

 

I just got off the phone with Rep. Bruce Cozart of Hot Springs who is co-chair of the Arkansas Legislative Council’s Occupational Review Sub-Committee, which is where this bill was recommended out of last week. Rep. Cozart said that Rep. Richard Womack (he has been a pin in our side for a long time now) is making the argument against what he calls “double licensing”---that since the company or one person in the company is licensed then all of the other guys should not have to be licensed. Same line that he has used the last several sessions. He did tell me that the Governor is against this bill!


In talking to Rep. Cozart he told me that this would now be put into the form of a bill and assigned to the committee on Public Health:

 

https://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/Committees/Detail?code=830&ddBienniumSession=2021%2F2021R

 

Here is a list to all Legislators:

 

https://www.arkleg.state.ar.us/Legislators/List?ddBienniumSession=2021%2F2021R

 

I just looked at the Public Health committee list and I know a few of the folks on there so I will start making some calls to let them know that this legislation is headed their way!

 

In looking at the make up of that Committee, it’s going to be a dog fight to keep it from getting out of there!!!

 

Thanks and Happy New Year….

 

 

Bill Roachell

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Subject: Re: End some licenses, panel recommends (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette), Dec 26, 2020

 

Bill,  

 

We appreciate your involvement. What this will allow is licensed contractors to hire cheap sub labor. Our life saving industry requires qualified, seasoned veteran, licensed pipe fitters, not fly by night trunk slammers. Anything we can do to help, let us know. 

 

Best regards,

 

 

 

 

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On Dec 26, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Bill Roachell <Broa...@abcark.org> wrote:



CF,

 

 

I can definitely help on this!

 

When I get in on Monday I'll send you all a link to your legislators.

 

In the article it says that Rep. Bruce Cozart of Hot Springs who is Co-Chair of the Committee and residential builder, is opposed.

 

I will call Bruce on Monday and get his guidance.

 

The article talks about double licensing, and seems to indicate that if the company is licensed, then an individual who works for that company doesn't have to be!

 

Thanks,

 

Bill

 

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On Dec 26, 2020 9:34 AM, Coleman Farrar <CFa...@vscfire.com> wrote:

See below from Bill Roachell with ABC Arkansas.

 

If we want to keep the fitter licensing as it currently exists, we better get to work letting our representatives and senators know so.

 

Bill, can you help us with this?

 

Thanks,

CF

 

 

 

 

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End some licenses, panel recommends

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Looks like we need to make some calls starting Monday! Looks like they slipped this one through the subcommittee 

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Kelly Walker

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Dec 28, 2020, 11:43:26 AM12/28/20
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Count me in for any help. It’s bad enough they raised the $20k bid mark to $50k, but removing background and testing is just plain wrong. Unqualified subs and employees is what this will do to the public.

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From: Marty OnTheHill <ma...@vscfire.com>
Date: December 28, 2020 at 09:09:34 CST
To: "Rumsey, Bill" <wru...@rogersar.gov>
Subject: FW: End some licenses, panel recommends (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette), Dec 26, 2020



FYI

 

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N Little Rock, AR 72113

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501-517-7577 - C

broa...@abcark.org

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: End some licenses, panel recommends (Arkansas Democrat-Gazette), Dec 26, 2020

 

Bill,  

 

We appreciate your involvement. What this will allow is licensed contractors to hire cheap sub labor. Our life saving industry requires qualified, seasoned veteran, licensed pipe fitters, not fly by night trunk slammers. Anything we can do to help, let us know. 

 

Best regards,

 

 

 

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Dido Kelly we have work too hard over the years to get quality from all contractors which comes through licensing and training of every individual we do not need to go backwards.

Whatever we need to do to help let us know.



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Licensed and trained individuals should be a standard that remains in this industry.  Why someone would not want individuals that represent

their company licensed/trained/verified is beyond me.  We should unite together for higher standards, for the consumers, and the communities in which we live.

 

Let me know how we can help

 

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I just spoke with Rep. Bruce Cozart, and the bill is only for pipefitters, not alarm techs, ect. However, I think in the life safety industry, we should all form a united front and keep background and qualifications in as a requirement.

 

Kelly Walker

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