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steve

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Oct 17, 2005, 8:48:37 AM10/17/05
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Dear all,

After a long delay (my apologies!) please find below links to the first integrated
version of the document. Many thanks to all those that provided inputs - pretty
much everyone was on time except me integrating them! In any case i've put
the PDF version up here:

 http://x-opennet.org/aif/outputs.php
 http://x-opennet.org/aif/Results/aif_strawman_v05.pdf

And you can find the sources (diagrams, tex in the same place but changing the
pdf extension for .zip.). We should now use this as a new starting point for further
iterations. A few comments on this version:

 - there are couple of references missing (I think Jarred may have them).
 - the argments/argument network part is the most developed of the
   three main sections, but hopefully we can now also add more to the
   others.
 - as planned we're working mostly on the core concepts and less on the
   concrete syntax - this is ok in my opinion but we need to decide how
   well go about defining the concrete stuff also.
 - there are now a few "new gaps" to be filled and we need to see who
   is willing to work on them!
- there are a number of tipos and minor issues which i hope to fix
  in a delta in the next couple of days.

Some decisions to be made:

 * We need to decide on editors/authors/contributors etc. my proposal
    would be to on the front cover list editors and main contributors,
    defined as those that pull the text together (the former), those
    which have contributed actual prose / diagrams etc. AND list
    everybody else in the acknowledgements. This is always
    difficult in groups but we have to do something :-/
    At the moment it seems to me that:
    - Gerard and i have done the main editing so far.
    - Text contributors have been 1) those in the "arguments subgroup
      (could someone list them), 2) jarred and myself for the communication
      part, 3) Iyad for the context part, 4) Matt South for the motivation
      parts. Is there anybody forgotten (we can keep adding as we
      go along - don't want to miss anyone.

 * At the moment i put an all rights reserved copyright notice but we did
    discuss a creative commons license. My preference would be for this:
    http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/
    However, other suggestions are welcome. Especially some people may
    not be happy that commercial use is allowed with the above license.
    if the above is a problem then we could use this:
    http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/
    (but we should bear in mind that any documents such as schemas etc.
    we should free up - otherwise nobody will be able to implement
    tools against them!).

In terms of next steps, firstly I think it would be good to have comments (positive
and negative!) sent to this list on the current document by the END OF THIS
WEEK: either on the structure or on any part of the content. If we do this it
should generate a potential change list to be addressed.

We can then assign some tasks to willing hands.

There will be an aspic meeting next week which some of the aspic partners
will be at so maybe that will be a chance to talk out some issues and report
back to the list.

Another option would be to organise a teleconference at some point in the
future to coordinate writing effort.

 In any case - thanks everybody for the effort so far, we
 are definitely making progress!

 best regards,
 steve.

Matt South

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Oct 18, 2005, 7:18:10 AM10/18/05
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(posted on behalf of Sanjay - his account isnt enabled for some reason)

Dear Steve, thanks for organising the putting together of the strawman
AIF.
I will
be presenting the results to the ASPIC project next week, and will of
course
report back any feedback. As requested, here is the list of members of
the
argumentation sub-group
who convened in Budapest :
Sanjay Modgil, Chris Reed, Gerard Vreeswijk, Carlos Chesnevar,
Guillermo Simari

Best
Sanjay

Steven Willmott

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Oct 26, 2005, 10:48:55 AM10/26/05
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Dear all,

I've put a very slightly updated version of the document on the website
(v06) with just some references added and the names of contributors so
far given [comments on the etiquete of how to mention people very
welcome!].

I guess some discussions might have taken place at the aspic meeting
this week also (hopefully Gerard or Sanjay can update us!?) but in the
meantime we didn't get many responses last week so a few things are
still pending:

steve wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> After a long delay (my apologies!) please find below links to the first
> integrated
> version of the document. Many thanks to all those that provided inputs -
> pretty
> much everyone was on time except me integrating them! In any case i've put
> the PDF version up here:
>
> http://x-opennet.org/aif/outputs.php
> http://x-opennet.org/aif/Results/aif_strawman_v05.pdf

http://x-opennet.org/aif/Results/aif_strawman_v06.pdf
new version.
First attempt done. Please comment on additions / deletions / presentation.

>
> * At the moment i put an all rights reserved copyright notice but we did
> discuss a creative commons license. My preference would be for this:
> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/
> However, other suggestions are welcome. Especially some people may
> not be happy that commercial use is allowed with the above license.
> if the above is a problem then we could use this:
> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/
> (but we should bear in mind that any documents such as schemas etc.
> we should free up - otherwise nobody will be able to implement
> tools against them!).
>

I didn't receive any comments on this - does anybody feel strongly? If
there are no objections I will put the second of the above (excluding
commercial use) on for now - we can loosen it later I guess.

> In terms of next steps, firstly I think it would be good to have
> comments (positive
> and negative!) sent to this list on the current document by the END OF THIS
> WEEK: either on the structure or on any part of the content. If we do
> this it
> should generate a potential change list to be addressed.
>

I didn't receive any major comments but i guess this is more a
relfection of lack of time on peoples part than serene happiness on the
current content!

I will try to work on some concrete groundign examples in the next
week or so but is anybody willing to:

- take the token on editing any of the current sections?

I think there are a fair few easy things which can be added in /
addressed in several of the sections. Would be good if we can get a
stronger version out in a couple of weeks or so.

thanks!
steve.
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