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Marko Gregoric
Mar 30, 2012, 4:24:03 AM3/30/12
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Let's say Nis was right that I am not the body-mind. If that is true it is also true that the sense of "I am" (beingness) comes out of the body-mind and has nothing to do with the so called true self. This also means that since all senses and thinking arises from the body then the real self cannot "see", "think" talk....and so on. The true self cannot feel anything. "It" is just "filled" with all this stuff which comes out of the body-mind. When the body dies off the self stays but it is empty of content.
Did I get it right?
Mark Ty-Wharton
Mar 30, 2012, 6:03:56 AM3/30/12
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On 30 March 2012 09:24, Marko Gregoric <markog...@gmail.com> wrote:
Let's say Nis was right that I am not the body-mind.
There is no you, it is an illusion.
If that is true it is also true that the sense of "I am" (beingness) comes out of the body-mind and has nothing to do with the so called true self.
The true self is the physical being, which in turn is a part of all that is.
This also means that since all senses and thinking arises from the body then the real self cannot "see", "think" talk....and so on.
Of course it can. Are you still looking for a separate self? something which is apart from all this? like a soul or a spirit or a little Marko driving the dream machine? I hate to be the one to break it to you but there isn't any such thing. The notion of self is a spatial awareness anomaly that the human mind invents to interact with and make sense of a seemingly separate universe. Stop doing that!
The true self cannot feel anything. "It" is just "filled" with all this stuff which comes out of the body-mind. When the body dies off the self stays but it is empty of content.
Did I get it right?
Cheers
Mark
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Kubertechnologies
Mar 30, 2012, 9:11:26 PM3/30/12
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When the body dies off, who is around to note the staying(or not staying) of the self or that it is filled with content or is empty of content.
"Did I get it right?"
So long the persisting sense of a question...... so long the sense of a play of thought, in thought..... as thought.
A play of thought ......which includes the sense of a biological body, through which the question arises and persists.
A play of thought ......which includes the sense of a biological body, through which the question arises and persists.
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Marko Gregoric <markog...@gmail.com> wrote:
Let's say Nis was right that I am not the body-mind. If that is true it is also true that the sense of "I am" (beingness) comes out of the body-mind and has nothing to do with the so called true self. This also means that since all senses and thinking arises from the body then the real self cannot "see", "think" talk....and so on. The true self cannot feel anything. "It" is just "filled" with all this stuff which comes out of the body-mind. When the body dies off the self stays but it is empty of content.
godszen
Apr 8, 2012, 9:19:39 PM4/8/12
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what you are looking for is self-realization
the definite recognition of yourself
only a very few can raise their hand to this
the definite recognition of yourself
only a very few can raise their hand to this
Sandeep-Kuber Technologies
Apr 8, 2012, 10:20:42 PM4/8/12
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On 09-04-2012 06:49, godszen wrote:
> what you are looking for is self-realization
>
> the definite recognition of yourself
>
> only a very few can raise their hand to this
> what you are looking for is self-realization
>
> the definite recognition of yourself
>
> only a very few can raise their hand to this
And those who do...........have realized bugger-all.
Mark Ty-Wharton
Apr 16, 2012, 5:02:55 AM4/16/12
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On 9 April 2012 02:19, godszen <god...@yahoo.com> wrote:
what you are looking for is self-realization
the definite recognition of yourself
only a very few can raise their hand to this
this is your final reminder Godszen...
there is only nothing to hold your hand up to
anyone who claims to have a definite recognition of self is still lost
mysticism is very nice, but still lost
godszen
Apr 17, 2012, 11:52:49 PM4/17/12
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it seems as though there many different awakenings
you may know everything,
you may know nothing,
you may become everything,
or you may disappear completely,
On Apr 16, 2:02 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <m...@ty-wharton.com> wrote:
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you may know everything,
you may know nothing,
you may become everything,
or you may disappear completely,
On Apr 16, 2:02 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <m...@ty-wharton.com> wrote:
> On 9 April 2012 02:19, godszen <gods...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > what you are looking for is self-realization
>
> > the definite recognition of yourself
>
> > only a very few can raise their hand to this
>
> this is your final reminder Godszen...
>
> there is only nothing to hold your hand up to
>
> anyone who claims to have a definite recognition of self is still lost
>
> mysticism is very nice, but still lost
>
> --
> *mark ty wharton
>
> > what you are looking for is self-realization
>
> > the definite recognition of yourself
>
> > only a very few can raise their hand to this
>
> this is your final reminder Godszen...
>
> there is only nothing to hold your hand up to
>
> anyone who claims to have a definite recognition of self is still lost
>
> mysticism is very nice, but still lost
>
> --
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Mark Ty-Wharton
Apr 18, 2012, 7:04:35 AM4/18/12
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it seems as though there many different awakenings
maybe, or perhaps there is what is obvious
let's point backwards using the hand
in the reference "my hand" the hand exists (certainly by agreement, if nowhere else)
the thing taking ownership that creates the notion of "my" is nowhere to be found
you may know everything,
unlikely
you may know nothing,
so that nothing may come to know itself perhaps
you may become everything,
again, unlikely
or you may disappear completely,
I was never really here :)
mark ty wharton
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Caveat-autismus: Aspergers Syndrome? From time to time I take things literally and respond in a way that
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The space you need to listen/read messages from is: "this guy is on my side".
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Bob1357
May 5, 2012, 10:45:42 PM5/5/12
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I ...........Yes................I said "I" ............... who else
is there?
Other than 700 million egos.
Only come back to the group because I love you all.
I did not find anything.
Only what was always already here.
I bit of a disappointment I must admit.
I thought I would break into some other plane or something.
Not the case.
Now I just see things as they are.
Plain and simple.
My happiness and contentment level have increased about 90 %.
My ego ...........yes "my" no longer controls me"
Am I my true self? ........No
Have I been at the right moments? .........yes
Do I get it........yes
Do I get it.........no
On Apr 18, 6:04 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <m...@ty-wharton.com> wrote:
is there?
Other than 700 million egos.
Only come back to the group because I love you all.
I did not find anything.
Only what was always already here.
I bit of a disappointment I must admit.
I thought I would break into some other plane or something.
Not the case.
Now I just see things as they are.
Plain and simple.
My happiness and contentment level have increased about 90 %.
My ego ...........yes "my" no longer controls me"
Am I my true self? ........No
Have I been at the right moments? .........yes
Do I get it........yes
Do I get it.........no
On Apr 18, 6:04 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <m...@ty-wharton.com> wrote:
Mark Ty-Wharton
Jun 2, 2012, 9:34:48 AM6/2/12
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mark ty wharton
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Caveat-autismus: Aspergers Syndrome? From time to time I take things literally and respond in a way that
annoys people.
The space you need to listen/read messages from is: "this guy is on my side".
Use everything for your personal growth.
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