Dev, thanks for accepting my invitation to connect on LinkedIn.
If Adnan and/or Mateen are on LinkedIn, I encourage them to
connect with us there as well and join the StratML group.
While it has not been active, I'd like to use it to keep the
StratML community informed and encourage others to participate in
developing the necessary tools, apps, and services.
I updated my documentation of the technical development plan at
https://aboutthem.info/ or, more specifically,
I'm copying the AboutThemInfoPlan Google group discussion
forum so that a record of this exchange will be available
I look forward to making any further clarifications that may be
necessary to ensure there are no misunderstandings and that we are
able to successfully complete this project together (and then
decide what to do next).
On 3/14/2022 1:18 PM, Owen Ambur wrote:
Devendra, see my comments below, in [brackets].
On 3/14/2022 11:25 AM, Devendra
[I'm not sure what you mean that you "entered the address".
I entered the address, if you open the subject a
little more, I can help you better.
Of course I will prepare a demo for you.
but first do you want xml files as web or desktop program?
and how you want the xml files to be presented to the users,
if you share in detail, I will offer you a free demo when I
understand you better, and if we agree later, we start work.
[I want a query service that works on the Web, at https://aboutthem.info/. I'd like
the query interface to be as simple as possible, like Google but
with query fields for the names and descriptions of Goals,
Objectives, and Stakeholders. It should be similar to
MarkLogic's prototype: https://stratml.us/references/MarkLogicStratMLQueryPrototype.htm]
[The query results might look something like Jorge Sanchez's
However, what should be displayed in the results lists are: 1)
the Descriptions of the Goals, Objectives, or Stakeholders, 2)
links to the place where the results occur within each document,
one that points directly to the Query/Discovery goal, and
probably 3) the Names of the Organizations compiling each of the
[Note that Ximdex provides a relatively attractive UI that
remains active, at http://space.ximdex.net/stratml-portal/
However, it does not enable the kinds of queries that are
required, leveraging the semantics and structure of the StratML
[Yes, that's why I've suggested that we use Chris' StratNavApp to
firm up the details and minimize assumptions and
misunderstandings. However, since his app is a bit of a challenge
to use, I also posted a version of the plan at https://aboutthem.info/SQS.xml
with mailto comment links embedded. They address messages to a Google
groups discussion forum.
I checked the address, there are many details about the
project, but there are implicit explanations. What I want is
for us to understand each other clearly at every stage.
[No! Authoring/editing is not mentioned in the
project plan and is outside the scope of this particular
[While it is good to keep the broader context in mind, the
*sole* focus of this project is to create a minimally viable
query service using the existing StratML collection, which
exceeds 5K files, and provides for the ingestion of additional
files going forward. For the existing collection, it would be
good if the sitemap listing
could be used to facilitate the ingestion process. Going
forward, it may be appropriate to require submitters to provide
a) a URL where the file can be found, and b) an E-mail address
to confirm that they made the submission. However, I definitely
do not want to get into the business of maintaining user IDs or
password. At this point, I'd rather just deal with the existing
collection than get bogged down in security issues related to
the ingestion of additional files.]
[Again, I do NOT want to get into the broader process in this
project. I just want a minimally viable query service.]
It would be great if we could move forward by giving
detailed information about the stages
[No! I DO NOT want another authoring/editing interface! Not in
for the first demo, let's proceed as follows, give me an
example xml and I will prepare an application where you can
create and edit a new xml file. Let's discuss what I should
do at each stage and I will prepare your project exactly as
you want it.
[At the query/discovery stage and I don't want to address anything
else in this particular project. If we do get around to discuss
other aspects, I'll explain how Jorge Sanchez went wrong in the
"staging" of his "wizard" version of the StratML authoring/editing
While I am turning your idea into an application, I will
programmatically tell the computer what they want, and as a
result, the computer will receive the command as you want
and the product will come out.
At which stage do you want to start?
[No! I DO NOT want to deal with UIDs & passwords. The query
service should support anonymous, read-only access.]
I reviewed your documents and there are many stages, let's
set a stage as a start.
As I understand it you want something like:
Users will become members and have membership categories and
will be able to view, edit or add xml data according to
[That's what I'm looking for.]
This will be a web application.
and each member will be able to search for words in xml file
formats that interest her.
[No but thanks for asking. I hope this exchange clarifies what
I'm looking for.]
Is this how I understood correctly?
Devendra, I haven't been able to figure out which
Devendra R. might be you on LinkedIn. I don't care so
much that your profile may not be up to date but at
least I'd like to know both your family as well as your
I'm not so interested in paying a hired gun as in
partnering with those who not only have the necessary
technical skills but also are persoanally committed to
helping realize the vision: A worldwide web of
intentions, stakeholders, and results.
I'm not getting any younger and may not have another
20 years to work on this.
Would you be open to partnering with other
developers, like Adnan and Mateen? I want to grow a
community of results (CoR) in pursuit of the vision,
including not only tech developers but also entpreneurs
with the vision to capitalize on the propsective use
Ideally, the AboutThem.info
domains will be turned over to a nonprofit, cooperative,
or public benefit corporation -- to serve the interests
of both those who have contributed to building them as
well as those who benefit from the services they
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