Schwalbe G-One Speed

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chris feczko

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Aug 31, 2018, 12:08:48 PM8/31/18
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Hi All,

Has anyone tried these yet? Thinking of grabbing a pair for my pelican.


Chris "who should probably be buying fenders this time of year but 2" will fit on the pelican" Feczko

Sunnyside, NY

jack loudon

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Sep 1, 2018, 12:03:00 AM9/1/18
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I've been running the 50-584 G-One Speeds for a couple of months now, so about 600-700 miles on 80% rough pavement and 20% gravel. Mine weigh 500gm on my scales and caliper 49-51mm wide on my HED Belgium+ rims, so pretty much as advertised. I bought them instead of the Compass 48-584's hoping for comparable (low) rolling resistance combined with better flat protection.  My previous flat experience has been so-so with Compass and excellent with Schwalbe, although to be fair to Compass, my Schwalbe's have all been heavier belted tires.

The rolling resistance does feel comparable to Compass tires (in other words, very good!), but I had 2 flats in the first week of riding, and then one stubborn slow leak later on.  This was discouraging, as I considered 6 flats per year as poor performance on my Compass tires.  The flats may have been nothing but bad luck, but it makes me wonder how effective the belted construction is. Maybe the belt is very thin, as it doesn't seem to hinder comfort or rolling resistance.  Since the flats, I felt compelled to have my first go at converting the tires from tubed to tubeless (the process was actually easy).  My first sealant was Stan's but there was one puncture that would not completely seal; it would scab over but eventually start leaking again, spraying sealant all over the place.   I finally got smart and changed to Orange Seal, and for the past month, the tires have been great.  

In summary, the G-One Speeds are good tires, but I'm still wary after some bad luck in my first month of use. I'm not sure if they are worth the weight penalty over the Compass tires (87gm x 2 tires), given that the belted construction hasn't been very effective for me.  I also wonder about tread life, as the tread seems pretty thin.  So a slightly less than glowing report from me, but I really have been enjoying these tires lately.  

Jack
Seattle

hagri777

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Sep 4, 2018, 6:53:39 PM9/4/18
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I have 700x40 on two bikes (so two pairs), 1 pair of 650bx2.35 and just got 650bx2.0. I also had 29x2.35. I love these tires and I do prefer them over Compass (price (I buy them from UK or Germany) + quality= can't be beat in my books).
Also (comparing with Compass tires again and some Panaracer GravelKings (both slicks and knobbies) - G-Ones roll fast, smooth and with good feedback from the road. Where Compass feel a bit sluggish and I feel disconnected from the road. Objectively I am as fast on Compass as on G-ones (on the same bike/same wheels according to Strava) but I much prefer feel of Schwalbe.

chris feczko

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Sep 5, 2018, 12:09:59 PM9/5/18
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Thanks everyone! I recently got some t-burts for my bg rock n road and they lived up to the hype so I wanted to see how others like these. Just order some from Germany and can't wait!

Thanks

Chris

Sunnyside, NY

Mark in Beacon

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Sep 6, 2018, 6:42:44 AM9/6/18
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I hope they start offering the Speed in 27.5 x 2.8-3" size.

franklyn

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Sep 6, 2018, 7:53:22 AM9/6/18
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Actually they started the G-One offerings in 60 and 70mm first before offering 40 and 50mm. You can get the wider versions today.

Franklyn

njh...@gmail.com

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Sep 6, 2018, 12:56:18 PM9/6/18
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Schwalbe also make G-One Speed in 650Bx30. I fitted those to one of my wife's bikes that won't accept anything wider. Running them tubeless on some DT Swiss 27.5 MTB wheels, they measure 32mm wide on those. No problems with them so far.

Nick

Mark in Beacon

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Sep 6, 2018, 2:13:37 PM9/6/18
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I think those are the G-One All road, no? A different tire.

Mark in Beacon

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Sep 6, 2018, 2:15:57 PM9/6/18
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Oops, no context when using my phone. I was replying to Franklyn, saying I don't think the Speed comes in 27.5 x 2.8

satanas

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Sep 6, 2018, 3:07:49 PM9/6/18
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^ Unfortunately not; only the Allround is 70mm.

Chris L

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Sep 7, 2018, 10:35:11 AM9/7/18
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I recently switched from a 50+mm squarish-profile slick to a 40 mm roundish profile Dureme.  The handling and cornering of the Duremes feel fantastic compared to the fatter, more square tires.   I don't know if this is a result of a smaller tire or if it's more the shape of the tire.  

Do your 650B x 2.35 tires handle as well as your 700x40 tires?   I'm referring to confidence in high speed turns, more than anything.  I'm trying to decide whether to buy some better 700 x 40-45 tires or to buy some 650B wheels and go with the 60mm Speeds.  If I can get the handling I want out of the 60mm tires, that is definately the route I want to take.   

I'm fortunate to have a bike with plenty of clearance and disk brake tabs so I can make this swap quite easily. 

satanas

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Sep 7, 2018, 11:25:50 AM9/7/18
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FWIW, I switched from the stock 42-622 Sawtooth tyres on my Sequoia to nominally 1.95" (actually ~47mm) small knob Vee 8(f)/12(r), mainly in the hopes of better grip on loose dirt. The Sawtooths have quite stiff sidewalls and squarish "corners" near the edges of the tread, but no side knobs, and I found the rounder Vee MTB tyres were grippier on dirt, more comfortable on rough stuff, but also cornered at least as well on tar. My confidence in the front Sawtooth sticking to anything either hard or loose when cornering wasn't high; the rear was okay.

IME, square profile tyres with larger side knobs might do better on soft or loose dirt, but a smoothish tyre with a round profile does fine on hardpack, and better on sealed roads. This may depend on where you ride and your riding style, so YMMV.

I'd expect a wide, round profile 47+mm tyre to excel at cornering on the road, i.e. an RTP, 60mm G-One Speed, DTH, etc.

Later,
Stephen

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