Widest Rando-bend Bars?

[Kieran J]

I'm been curious to try a set of randonneur-shape bars, but I've always assumed the ramp portion is quite narrow and therefore not for me. The only drop bars I've used are 48cm Nitto Noodles.

Who makes the widest version of this type of bar? So far it seems to be the VO "Chris's Rando" bars (50cm at the ends). Any others out there at the widest end of the spectrum?

KJ

[Tyler Lone]

If I am understanding your post correctly, then Crust's Leather 66.6 may be what you are looking for.

Tyler

[Jim Bronson]

Are these really 66.6 wide?

curious.

Jim

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[Kieran J]

That's a little too wide. Well, a little or a lot.

KJ

[Justin Hughes]

The VOs are the widest I've used. I prefer the 46cm, but put the 48cm on my tandem because the reach is a little shorter and I like the stem that's on there. I'm pretty sure the 50cm VO is the widest in the traditional rando bend. While the Crust Leather bar may have some rise and flair, it's extreme width decidedly makes it not a traditional rando bend in my mind. 

The VO 50cm rando bar is a pretty wide bar. 

On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:57:00 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

[Jim Bronson]

The VO 50cm rando bar is not wide on top at all if you are used to riding 48cm Nitto Noodlebars.  That's just my experience with them, I removed them from my tandem and installed 48cm Noodles.  Much happier now.

That said the VO 50cm randos are great if you want to ride in the drops all day.  That's the only way I ever rode my tandem when I had them installed, the tops were just too narrow.

That said I am a really big person so maybe they're ok for other people who's shoulders aren't nearly as wide.

Jim

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[Eric Nichols]

For years I used 48cm Noodles because I'm a large person (197 cm, 92 kg) and a wide bar was conventional wisdom. As my riding progressed into high-mileage randonneuring and more all-road riding, I started to develop bursitis in my elbows. Long rides on our tandem, with its narrow randonneuring bars, did not seem to bother my elbows as much. That was my first hint that the wide bars might be related to the bursitis. Swapping the 48 for 44 cured the problem.

My road bikes now all have 42-44 cm bars and I'm more comfortable, and maybe even a little more aerodynamic.

Everyone is different, but for me the wide bars had an unforeseen downside.

Eric N

[Jim Bronson]

Different strokes for different folks I guess.  The 48cm Noodles work great for me.  I'm 201cm btw, 117kg.  Not fat, I'm just a big person.  Well ok maybe a little extra around the middle, pinch an inch or two.  lol.

I do have a relative of similar stature that had bursitis, so I will keep an eye out for that.

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[Kieran J]

I like the width of the 48cm Noodles. I tried the 46cm version before that and they felt too narrow. I'm 6'4" with fairly broad shoulders.

I've all but given up on drop bars, but I do like the idea of the rounded ramps feature that cups your palms. Wanted to give that a go as a final experiment.

KJ

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 9:55:06 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:

Different strokes for different folks I guess.  The 48cm Noodles work great for me.  I'm 201cm btw, 117kg.  Not fat, I'm just a big person.  Well ok maybe a little extra around the middle, pinch an inch or two.  lol.

I do have a relative of similar stature that had bursitis, so I will keep an eye out for that.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Eric Nichols <ericni...@gmail.com> wrote:

For years I used 48cm Noodles because I'm a large person (197 cm, 92 kg) and a wide bar was conventional wisdom.  As my riding progressed into high-mileage randonneuring and more all-road riding, I started to develop bursitis in my elbows.  Long rides on our tandem, with its narrow randonneuring bars, did not seem to bother my elbows as much. That was my first hint that the wide bars might be related to the bursitis. Swapping the 48 for 44 cured the problem.

My road bikes now all have 42-44 cm bars and I'm more comfortable, and maybe even a little more aerodynamic.

Everyone is different, but for me the wide bars had an unforeseen downside.

Eric N

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[Geoff Wendt]

I have a pair of these on one bike and like them: http://www.bigandtallbike.com/JK-wide-road-handlebars-47cm-or-48cm-C-C_p_169.html

[Will K]

+1 on 48cm Noodles.

I'm not that large (6'1") but like them for commuting and touring.  Did a 6 week gravel road tour this summer and had not aches or pains.

[Clayton]

yes they are!

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Clayton Scott

SF, CA

On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 11:19:27 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:

Are these really 66.6 wide?

curious.

Jim

On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Tyler Lone <tyler.sc...@gmail.com> wrote:

If I am understanding your post correctly, then Crust's Leather 66.6 may be what you are looking for.

Tyler

On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 1:57:00 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

I'm been curious to try a set of randonneur-shape bars, but I've always assumed the ramp portion is quite narrow and therefore not for me. The only drop bars I've used are 48cm Nitto Noodles.

Who makes the widest version of this type of bar? So far it seems to be the VO "Chris's Rando" bars (50cm at the ends). Any others out there at the widest end of the spectrum?

KJ

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[Justin Hughes]

You may not realize it, but the Nitto Noodle is not a randonneur bend. 

[Nick Favicchio]

+1. Noodle is a different thing.

The 50cm "Chris' Rando" bar from VO is prolly the "widest rando bar".

But what makes a rando bar a rando bar? Really just talking about upswept flats before the drops, no? As opposed to the Noodle back sweep. Or no sweep.

The Crust Leather bar is undeniably a rando bend bar. But... whatever. There's wide and wide and then there is the crazy shit I guess :).

Waiting till April when the crazy shit is back in stock :).

[Justin Hughes]

On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 11:03:42 PM UTC-5, Nick Favicchio wrote:

But what makes a rando bar a rando bar?  Really just talking about upswept flats before the drops, no? 

Yes, and the corresponding flare at the drops that results. But, most randonneur bends aren't quite as simple as taking a Maes bar and bending the hooks up. 

It's worth noting that the Noodle bar isn't level from the stem clamp but actually DROPS slightly, which is in direct contrast to a randonneur bend and something I disliked very much about the bar. 

[Mike Schiller]

What does the 50 cm VO grand cru measure at the hoods?  Their site says 6cm of flare... so is it really 50-12 = 38cm at the hoods?  that is tiny for those of us who love the Noodles.  I love the 46cm Noodles. 

 

~mike

Carlsbad Ca

[Ryan Watson]

The 46cm Crand Cru Course measures about 43cm at the hoods. They claim "30mm of flare" so I'm guessing the 50cm one with 60mm flare would be 42cm at the hoods.
The 46 noodles by comparison are about 45cm at the hoods.
My fleet is evenly split between the 46 Noodles and the 46 Grand Cru Course. I prefer the width of the Noodle but like the VO shape better.

Ryan

[Justin Hughes]

That would seem about right, Ryan. My 48cm VO Rando meausres 40cm ctc at the hoods (see photo for lever placement). Obviously this would vary a little with lever placement (42-44cm for the 50cm I'd say). The lower you mount the lever, the wider the distance between. 

https://flic.kr/p/crbmiQ

https://flic.kr/p/cUZkYA

[Justin Hughes]

Custom chops-shop mods by Rick Hunter. Pretty cool. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQ6f51pFjjw/?taken-by=condorcazador

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQ8jA1Cl4jZ/?taken-by=condorcazador

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQ8jjtmFQ-g/?taken-by=condorcazador

[Brent Avery]

 I am using the 50 cm V.O. rando handlebars and they measure 43 cm C to C, 45 cm to the outer part at the hoods. I find them quite comfortable, having had some Cinelli 42 cm previously - also using 44 cm Noodles on another bike as well as another ride with 48 cm V.O. rando bars which are still quite good, at least for me, never had a desire to change them. If you normally do not use too wide a handle bar the nice longer ramps and bend of the V.O. handlebars makes them quite nice overall. Of course we all have preferences but I look for comfort at this stage of my life.

 

  Brent